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A panel of federal judges ruled on Wednesday that many of President Trump’s tariffs were illegal, a decision that has threatened to derail his trade agenda. Victor Schwartz, the wine importer at the center of the case, explains why he decided to take on the president, and Jeanna Smialek, the Brussels bureau chief for The Times, discusses what options Mr. Trump has to save his trade war. Guest: * Victor Schwartz, a small wine importer and the lead plaintiff in a lawsuit against Mr. Trump’s tariffs. * Jeanna Smialek [https://www.nytimes.com/by/jeanna-smialek], the Brussels bureau chief for The New York Times. Background reading:  * The U.S. Court of International Trade said Mr. Trump had overstepped his authority [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/28/business/trump-tariffs-blocked-federal-court.html] in imposing his “reciprocal” tariffs globally. * An appeals court spared the tariffs [https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/05/29/us/trump-news] while it considered the challenge. * From March: Wine businesses were struck with fears of disaster [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/13/dining/drinks/wine-trump-tariffs.html] under the threat of huge tariffs. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Photo: Doug Mills/The New York Times Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

For Harvard students, this year’s graduation ceremony comes amid an intense standoff between one of America’s most prestigious universities and the United States government. Michael S. Schmidt, an investigative reporter for The Times, explains how the conflict escalated and what it reveals about how far the administration will go to fulfill its agenda. Guest: Michael S. Schmidt [https://www.nytimes.com/by/michael-s-schmidt], an investigative reporter for The New York Times, covering Washington. Background reading:  * Harvard leaders see only bad outcomes ahead [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/08/us/harvard-trump-court-case-negotiation.html] as they battle President Trump. * The Trump administration says it is halting Harvard’s ability to enroll international students [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/22/us/politics/trump-harvard-international-students.html]. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Photo: Sophie Park/Bloomberg Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

The Trump administration on Tuesday bypassed the traditional system of vaccine guidance and abruptly ended the government’s recommendation that two key groups of Americans receive vaccinations against Covid. Apoorva Mandavilli, a science and global health reporter at The New York Times, discusses what could be a turning point in public health. Guest: Apoorva Mandavilli [https://www.nytimes.com/by/apoorva-mandavilli], a science and global health reporter at The New York Times. Background reading:  * Health Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr. said that there was no clinical data to support additional Covid shots [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/27/health/covid-vaccines-children-pregnant-women-rfk-jr.html] for healthy children. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Photo: Frederic J. Brown/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.

After the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade, abortions in the United States actually went up, in part because of a novel legal strategy that pitted blue states against red states. Pam Belluck, who covers health and science for The Times, discusses that strategy and explains how proceedings against a New York doctor could take it apart. Guest: Pam Belluck [https://www.nytimes.com/by/pam-belluck], a health and science reporter at The New York Times. Background reading:  * The Louisiana case appears to be the first time criminal charges have been filed [https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/31/health/abortion-louisiana-new-york-prosecution-shield-law.html] against an abortion provider for sending pills into a state with a ban. * From 2024: Abortion shield laws are a new war between the states [https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/22/health/abortion-shield-laws-telemedicine.html]. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily [http://nytimes.com/thedaily?smid=pc-thedaily]. Transcripts of each episode will be made available by the next workday.  Photo: Evelyn Hockstein/Reuters Unlock full access to New York Times podcasts and explore everything from politics to pop culture. Subscribe today at nytimes.com/podcasts [http://nytimes.com/podcasts] or on Apple Podcasts and Spotify.