The Learning Curve from Cut Off the Spigot
In this episode of The Learning Curve, I spoke with Debra Ha, the founder of Sōtō Naturals, the first self-care brand built by and for neurodiverse life. Born from her own five-year journey out of AuDHD burnout, and the late diagnosis that revealed her life’s purpose. We discuss: * Our AuDHD journeys & experiences, including: * Later in Life Diagnosis * Testing & Diagnosis as a woman * Finding happiness post-diagnosis * What it’s like to build a business as a person with neurodivergence * What the benefits of being a neurodivergent entrepreneur are * Why self-care matters so much for neurodivergent people & what self-care actually is * What Plantwork, Soto’s main product, is and how it caters to neurodivergent skin care needs * Why diversity and following your own path is so important Sōtō Naturals Links Use promo code COTS20 for 20% off your order! * Website [https://sotonaturals.com/] * TikTok [https://www.tiktok.com/@sotonaturals] * Instagram [https://www.instagram.com/sotonaturals/] Links to Items Discussed * Flesh World [https://jessicadefino.substack.com/about]: a Substack from Jessica DeFino, an award-winning beauty journalist who realized the absurdity of the beauty world after being enmeshed in it for years. She advocates for simple solutions to skincare, relying on your skin and body’s natural processes instead of replacing or disrupting them with unnecessary products. * Worldwide Fungal Network Map [https://www.newscientist.com/article/2530122-global-map-reveals-the-vast-scale-of-underground-fungal-networks/] * Maslow’s Hierarchy of Needs [https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%2Fid%2FOIP.0jGRcK5W2SN3XDeC7zjqwQHaFm%3Fpid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=93a1446cc6210319070fb4de6a4858814da1eb7a6083da08450cb90e8f07c8d1&ipo=images] * Yoga Nidra [https://health.clevelandclinic.org/what-is-yoga-nidra] * Mast Cell Activation Syndrome [https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/mast-cell-activation-syndrome] * Knicks in Five! [https://cutoffthespigot.substack.com/i/201810694/whats-bringing-me-joy-lately] Neurodivergent Research Shared Research led by the Karolinska Institutet in Sweden [https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/feb/04/autism-women-men-diagnosis-childhood-adulthood] scrutinized the diagnosis rates of https://www.theguardian.com/society/autismautism [https://www.theguardian.com/society/autism] for people born in Sweden between 1985 and 2020. The research calculated that in childhood, boys were diagnosed on average nearly three years earlier than girls – the median age at diagnosis was 15.9 for girls, but 13.1 for boys. Overall, boys were three to four times more likely than girls to be diagnosed with autism under the age of 10, although girls were found to “catch up” by the time they were 20, owing to a rapid increase in autism diagnosis during adolescence. From Autism.org [https://Autism.org] and Dr. Hannah Belcher, author of Taking Off the Mask (link [https://autism.org/gender-differences-in-diagnoses/]) “Autistic females present as much more social than their male counterparts, which contrasts the idea of autism as a “social disorder” Masking significantly predicts suicidal behaviors in autistic individuals and positively correlates with depression and anxiety. Belcher describes how relentless self-monitoring (conscious or not) and adapting to social situations with different people all day is exhausting and leaves little time for self-expression or care.”
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