The Value Perspective

This week we replay an Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective from 2024 with Dan Zwirn, the CEO and CIO of Arena Investors. Dan co-founded Arena in 2015, creating innovative solutions in special situations and distressed debt markets. Arena now manages around $3.5 billion, specialising in complex investments across various sectors globally. Before Arena, Dan led multiple speciality finance ventures and founded DB Zwirn and Co, a $6 billion firm in global special situations. He brings decades of experience with a deep understanding of value investing in complex financial landscapes. In this episode, we discuss: Dan’s early shift from private equity; the unique value in credit markets; today’s distressed debt opportunities; the impact of recent monetary policy; and how restructurings can unlock hidden value. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean [https://schroderstvp.podbean.com/] or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml [https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml]) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam [https://twitter.com/Thevalueteam]  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Profesusionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

This episode of the Value Perspective comes to you from our recent visit to the London Value Investment Conference. In a stellar line up, we’re joined by some of the sharpest minds in the investment world, including Simon Adler, from Schroders Value Team, Alissa Corcoran from Kopernik, Dan O Keefe from Artisan Partners, Alisdair McKinnon from Sgurr Ventures, Freddie Lait from Latitude Investment Management, Alex Roepers for Atlantic Investment Management, Matt Enion from Quilter Cheviot, David Shapiro from Sustainable Growth Advisers, Caroline Mills from Redington, Charles Heenan from Kennox Asset Management, Andrew Hollingworth from Holland Advisors, Scott Gibson at SJP, Jon Boyar from Boyar Research and Mark Boulton From Pictet Asset Management, each offering a unique perspective on the state of markets, long-term value and where opportunities may lie. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean [https://schroderstvp.podbean.com/] or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml [https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml]) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam [https://twitter.com/Thevalueteam]  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Andrew Brenton, founding Partner of Turtle Creek Asset Management. Back in the 1990s Andrew and his two partners made a bold move, applying a private equity lens to public markets. The result is a standout long-term track record from their base in Canada. In the episode we discuss the art and limits of forecasting, including embedded probabilities; how to integrate the private equity approach to public markets; and finally, how the asset management business has changed. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean [https://schroderstvp.podbean.com/] or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml [https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml]) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam [https://twitter.com/Thevalueteam]  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this episode of the Value Perspective, we’re joined by Jonathan Boyar, Managing Director of the Boyar Group, a research driven investment group founded by his father fifty years’ ago. The Boyar  Group is known for its deep fundamental research, applying a private equity lens to public markets with a strict focus on US equities. Jonathan also hosts the podcast The World According to Boyar and writes a popular Substack. In the episode we discuss Jonathan’s insights, drawn from decades of market study, including the behavioural patterns that consistently stand out; how and when to change your investment view; what has made the last fifteen years particularly challenging for value investors; the creative side of investment content; and finally, why the Boyar Group has chosen not to expand its research beyond the US. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean [https://schroderstvp.podbean.com/] or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml [https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml]) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam [https://twitter.com/Thevalueteam]  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.

In this Allocator’s Edge episode of the Value Perspective we return our focus to building boutiques in asset management. Our guest is Jamie Carter, who was employee number four at Oldfield Partners, joining at its inception in 2005. He rose through the ranks to become CEO before stepping away just before Covid. Now he’s back in the game as a partner at the Emerging Markets’ focused boutique Variis Partners. During the episode we discuss Jamie’s journey to Variis Partners and why he chose to start again; the evolving landscape for boutiques in the UK and US; why UK regulation may be holding managers back; what it really takes to launch today and what makes it so hard; and finally, the challenges of raising capital in a tough market for Emerging Markets. Enjoy! NEW EPISODES: We release main series episodes every two weeks on Mondays. You can subscribe via Podbean [https://schroderstvp.podbean.com/] or use this feed URL (https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml [https://tvpschroders.podbean.com/feed.xml]) in Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Google Podcasts and other podcast players. GET IN TOUCH: send us a tweet: @TheValueTeam [https://twitter.com/Thevalueteam]  Important information. This podcast is for investment professionals only. Marketing material for Financial Professionals and Professional Clients only.  The material is not intended to provide, and should not be relied on for, accounting, legal or tax advice, or investment recommendations.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions.  Past Performance is not a guide to future performance and may not be repeated.  Diversification cannot ensure profits or protect against loss of principal.  The value of investments and the income from them may go down as well as up and investors may not get back the amounts originally invested.  Exchange rate changes may cause the value of investments to fall as well as rise.  Investing in emerging markets and securities with limited liquidity can expose investors to greater risk.  Private assets investments are only available to Qualified Investors, who are sophisticated enough to understand the risk associated with these investments.  This material may contain “forward-looking” information, such as forecasts or projections. Please note that any such information is not a guarantee of any future performance and there is no assurance that any forecast or projection will be realised.  Reliance should not be placed on any views or information in the material when taking individual investment and/or strategic decisions. The views and opinions contained herein are those of the individuals to whom they are attributed and may not necessarily represent views expressed or reflected in other Schroders communications, strategies or funds.  Any reference to regions/ countries/ sectors/ stocks/ securities is for illustrative purposes only and not a recommendation to buy or sell any financial instruments or adopt a specific investment strategy. Any data has been sourced by us and is provided without any warranties of any kind. It should be independently verified before further publication or use. Third party data is owned or licenced by the data provider and may not be reproduced, extracted or used for any other purpose without the data provider’s consent. Neither we, nor the data provider, will have any liability in connection with the third party data.