The Vernon Richard Show

This conversation captures the vibrant atmosphere of Agile Testing Days in Potsdam, highlighting the importance of community, targeted automated testing, and the exploration of tester identity. The hosts discuss their experiences at the conference, including workshops, networking opportunities, and a unique musical performance that showcased the talents of attendees. They delve into the significance of understanding tester identity and the symbols associated with it, emphasizing the need for connection and belonging within the testing community. This conversation at Agile Testing Days explores various themes including the experience of performing in a musical, insights from keynote speakers on technical coaching, the importance of documenting achievements for career advancement, and the evolving identity of professionals in agile environments. The discussion emphasizes the value of networking at conferences and the need for continuous learning and adaptation in one's career. [AI] Links to stuff we mentioned during the pod: * 01:00 - Agile Testing Days 2024 (ATD) * ATD's website [https://agiletestingdays.com/] * 02:00 - 🤠 Señor Performo aka Leandro Melendez (who Vernon definitely did NOT call Leonardo 😅😇🤥🥷🐢🤦🏾‍♂️) * Señor Performo's website [https://www.srperf.com/] * Señor Performo's English YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@SrPerfEng] channel 🇬🇧 * Señor Performo's Español YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@SrPerfEsp] channel 🇪🇸 * Señor Performo's English podcast [https://www.perfbytes.com/] channel 🇬🇧 * Señor Performo's Español podcast [https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/perfbytes-espanol--3254680] channel 🇪🇸 * Señor Performo's book [https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09C4ZT1LB] * Señor Performo's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leandromelendez/] * Señor Performo's X [https://twitter.com/SrPerf] * 03:00 - Richard's tutorial [https://agiletestingdays.com/2024/session/targeted-automated-tests/] Targeted Automated Tests * 04:35 - Mark Winteringham * Mark's website [https://www.mwtestconsultancy.co.uk/] * Mark's books [https://www.mwtestconsultancy.co.uk/books/] (probably why he's so slick with words!) * 10:07 - Lisa Crispin & João Proença * Lisa's website [https://lisacrispin.com/] and LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisacrispin/] pages * Lisa's Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/lisacrispin.bsky.social] * João's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jo%C3%A3o-proen%C3%A7a-ba864357/] page * João's Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/jrosaproenca.bsky.social] * 10:17 - José "Pepe" Díaz & Uwe Gelfert * José's website [https://trendig.com/en/] * José's Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/josediaz.bsky.social] * José's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/josediazberlin/] * Uwe's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/uwegelfert/] * 11:25 - Alex(andra) Schladebeck * Alex's website [https://www.bredex.de/] * Alex's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandraschladebeck/] * 13:05 - The cast * Samuel "Robot Overlord [https://www.linkedin.com/in/samuel-nitsche-457ba3158/]" Nitsche * Lena "Test Management Saviour [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lena-pejgan-nystrom/]" Pejgan Nyström * Rachel "Pitch Perfect [https://www.linkedin.com/in/racheljoi/]" Kibler * Veerle "Light Sabre Extraordinaire [https://www.linkedin.com/in/veerleverhagen/]" Verhagen * Tamara "Putting the "Rock Star" in Rock Star Developer [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamarajosten/]" Josten * Callum "The stage is my happy place [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cakehurstryan/]" Akehurst-Ryan * Bastian "Best Bad Boss Ever [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bastian-knerr/]" Knerr * Tobias "Chill Samuel I've got this [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tobias-geyer-728ba1252/]" Geyer * Did you order a light sabre duel [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/samuel-nitsche-457ba3158_atdmusical-activity-7265346437167648769-UNLa?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop] with your musical? You did? Well here you go! * 19:32 - Leandro's workshop [https://agiletestingdays.com/2024/session/ramping-up-modern-performance/] Ramping up modern performance * 21:53 - Jenna Charlton * The description [https://agiletestingdays.com/2024/session/testing-identity-and-symbols/] of Jenna's ATD keynote Testing, Identity, and Symbols * Jenna's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jbcharlton/] * Jenna's Bluesky [https://bsky.app/profile/theywrestletest.bsky.social] * Martin Hynie * Martin describing the wider impact [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/whoisvds4_its-been-over-a-decade-since-i-first-presented-activity-7234195928939724800-fQkv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop] of his talk, including a link to the talk itself * Martin's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/whoisvds4/] * 22:57 - Ashley Hunsberger * Ashley's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashleyhunsberger/] * 39:05 - Bart Knaack * Bart's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bartknaack/] * 42:21 - Emily Bache * The description [https://agiletestingdays.com/2024/session/technical-coaching-development-teams-using-the-samman-method/] of Emily's ATD keynote Technical coaching development teams using the Samman method * Emily's YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@EmilyBache-tech-coach] * The Samman Society website [https://sammancoaching.org/] * The Hartman Proficiency Taxonomy [https://marianhartman.com/proficiency-taxonomy] by Marian Hartman * Bloom's taxonomy [https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-is-bloom-s-taxonomy-tJfYpC7aQ4id9i_nlmE47g] for cognitive thinking * Paul Holland [https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-j-holland/] another ATD contributor of allTheThings and Rubix Cube legend * Emily's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilybache/] * 47:16 - Ash "Data is dope" Hynie * Ash's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ash-hynie/] * CountrPT's website [https://www.countrpt.io/] * CountrPT's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/countrpt/posts/?feedView=all] * Patrick Prill [https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-prill-50510077/] (who aside from being a generalist, also gives THE BEST hugs around, trust me on this folks!) * Rita Avota [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ravota/] * Ben Dowen [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dowenb/] * Joao Proenca [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jo%C3%A3o-proen%C3%A7a-ba864357/] 01:00 - Intro LIVE from Agile Testing Days! 03:00 - Why are we here? 10:52 - The importance of networking and conferences 12:17 - What kind of event is ATD? 13:05 - The ATD Musical (you read that correctly) 18:29 - Guest: Señor Performo discussing who he is and performance testing 21:53 - Guest: Jenna Charlton explaining the relationship between testing, identity, and symbols 36:15 - Guest: Basti aka Bastian "Best Bad Boss Ever" Knerr talking about being part of the musical 39:05 - Guest: Baart Knack talking about his escapades at ATD over the years and hi...

#contentcreation #softwaretesting  In this conversation, Richard Bradshaw and Vernon discuss various themes including veganism, personal achievements, the writing process, and the importance of collecting ideas for content creation. They explore the significance of networking within the software testing community and reflect on the dynamics of social media, particularly Twitter and LinkedIn. The conversation also highlights the value of storytelling in professional settings and shares insights from a recent conference experience. In this conversation, Richard Bradshaw shares his experiences from the Husteth Conference, including the challenges and triumphs of being a closing keynote speaker. He discusses the unexpected power cut during his talk, the importance of engaging Q&A sessions, and the value of networking and building connections at conferences. The conversation emphasizes the significance of community, sharing insights, and the overall positive experience of attending events. 00:00 Introduction and Veganism Discussion 02:58 Celebrating Achievements and Book Launch 06:00 Writing Process and Content Creation 08:54 Collecting Ideas: The Fieldstone Method 11:55 Building in Public and Sharing Experiences 15:04 Networking and Community Engagement 17:58 Reflections on Social Media Dynamics 21:00 The Importance of Collecting Stories 23:55 Conference Experience and Innovations 26:53 Q&A Dynamics at Events 32:25 Reflections on the Husteth Conference 34:09 The Power Cut Incident 39:43 The Importance of Q&A Sessions 45:21 Closing Keynote Experience 49:42 Traveling and Networking at Conferences 52:22 Conversations and Connections at Events 57:11 Final Thoughts and Takeaways

In this episode of the Vernon Richard show, Richard and Vernon engage in an AMA format, discussing various topics including their collaborative projects, future aspirations, the impact of their quality testing mindset on daily life, memorable swag from testing events, experiences in uncomfortable establishments, significant learning moments, and the importance of testing environments. They emphasize the need for continuous content creation and the desire to connect with their audience for future interactions. 00:00 - Intro 00:16 - Ben's question: If you could do any co-lab with anyone from the community, who would it be, and what might it look like? 05:43 - Leigh's question: Where do you and vern see yourselves in 5 years, or want to be in 5 years, doing what kind of role in what kind of company? 15:46 - Andy's question: When I speak with people, I love hearing how their Quality/Testing mindset spills over into day to day life. One person used to test their childrens' toys by seeing if they could use them one-handed covered in olive oil. Another guy would occasionally test how far away his TV remote would work and see if it changes 😂 Maybe you've covered this stuff already, but personally I always love hearing about these funny quirks and testing 'life'. 26:05 - Emily's question: What's the best swag you've ever picked up from a testing event? 31:29 - Mark's question: Have you ever walked in to a pub that's so bad you want to instantly leave, But because of obligated politeness and fear of that awkward feeling of walking straight out again you go stayed? 35:08 - Ide's question: Looking back, best learning ever (at that moment perhaps biggest fail ever), with context, and what/when did it change from: Argh! to Ahhh! 40:53 - Anonymous question: Do you think one of your test environments should match the spec of production? Links to stuff we mentioned during the pod: * 00:16 - Stuff from Ben's question * Butch Mayhew * Butch's website [https://playwrightsolutions.com/] * Butch's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/butchmayhew/] * Ben Dowen * Ben's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dowenb/] * Lisi Hocke * Lisi's blog [https://www.lisihocke.com/] * Lisi's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisihocke/] * Nicola Lindgren * Nicola's YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@NicolaLindgren] channel * Nicola's blog [https://nicolalindgren.com/] * The book we're writing called "The Tester's Journey [https://leanpub.com/testersjourney/]"! * Nicola's first book "Starting Your Software Testing Career [https://nicolalindgren.com/ebook/]"! * Nicola's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nicolalindgren/] * Karen Todd * Karen's YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@KarenTestsStuff] channel * Karen's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/karentestsstuff/] * Dean Moon * Dean's website * Dean's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/deanjmoon/] * Ash Coleman Hynie * Ash's new product CountrPT [https://www.countrpt.io/]! * Ash's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ash-hynie/] * Kelsey Hightower * Kelsey's X (formerly Twitter) account [https://x.com/kelseyhightower] * Manchester Tech Festival * Their website [https://www.manchestertechfestival.co.uk/] * Their founder Amy Newton [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amynewtoninclusivelytech/] * Emily O'Connor * Emily's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/profile-eoconn/] * Dorothy "Dot" Graham * Dorothy's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/dorothygraham/] * Janet Gregory * Janet's website [https://janetgregory.ca/about/] * Janet's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/janetgregory/] * Abby Bangser * Abby's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/abbybangser/] * Melissa Eaden * Mel's blog [https://melthetechie.substack.com/] * Mel's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mleaden/] * Stuff from Leigh's question * Leigh Rathbone * Leigh's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/leigh-rathbone-630690b/] * Alan Page * Alan's newsletter * Alan and Brent [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentmjensen/]'s podcast [https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/abtesting] * Alan's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/a-l-a-n/] * The Black Tech Unplugged Podcast [https://www.youtube.com/@BlackTechUnplugged] hosted by Deena McKay [https://www.linkedin.com/in/deenamckay/] * NB (from Vernon): I got the name of the podcast wrong 🤦🏾‍♂️! I mentioned the Tech Is The New Black [https://www.youtube.com/@techisthenewblack] podcast, which is awesome but crucially, NOT the one Deena creates. Forgive me Deena 🙏🏾. * The Quality Bits podcast [https://qualitybits.buzzsprout.com/] hosted by Lina Zubyte [https://www.linkedin.com/in/linazubyte/] * NB (from Vernon): I blundered AGAIN 🤦🏾‍♂️! The name of the pod is Quality Bits, BITS! Not Bytes. Good grief. Sorry Lina 🙏🏾 * Daniel Knott * Daniel's YouTube channel [https://www.youtube.com/@DanielKnott] (with 107,000 subscribers at the time of writing 🤯) * Daniel's blog [https://adventuresinqa.com/] * Daniel's books * Hands-On Mobile App Testing [https://leanpub.com/Mobileapptesting] on Leanpub * Smartwatch App Testing [https://leanpub.com/smartwatchapptesting] on Leanpub * Daniel's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/daniel-knott/] * Joe Colantonio * Joe's YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/@JoeColantonio] (with 387,000 subscribers at the time of writing 🤯) * Joe's website [https://testguild.com/] * Stuff from Andy's question * Andy Johnson * Andy's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/andyjohnsontech/] * Del Dewar * Del's blog [https://findingdeefex.com/] * Del's PS5 bot [https://github.com/deefex/ps5bot] * Del's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/deldewar/] * Stuff from Emily's question * Emily O'Connor * Emily's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/profile-eoconn/] * Stuff from Mark's question * Mark Gillott * Mark's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mark-gillott-901500196/] * Stuff from Ide's question * Ide Koops * Ide's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/koopside/] * Stuff from the Anonymous question * Christian Legget * Christian's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/clegget/] * Jonathan Marshall * Jonathan's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jonathan-marshall-8629364/]

The conversation revolves around the challenges faced by testers and the lack of understanding and support they receive from leadership. The hosts discuss the misconception of the value of testers and the need for leaders to create an environment where testers can thrive. They highlight the importance of addressing the frustrations and unhappiness of testers and the need for leaders to take responsibility for creating a supportive and nurturing culture. The conversation also touches on the changing expectations of developers compared to testers and the need for leaders to have a better understanding of the role and value of testers. The conversation explores the disconnect between the expectations and perspectives of testing and quality engineers. It highlights the need for leaders to take responsibility for creating a supportive environment and culture. The role of tools and marketing in shaping these expectations is also discussed. The conversation concludes with the importance of clear communication, understanding the needs of the team, and nurturing the growth of testers and quality engineers. #podcast #softwaretesting #software #softwaredevelopment  Links to stuff we mentioned during the pod: * 11:38 - Challenge Networks. Listen [https://youtu.be/uPXjt6beYbg?si=eJIZoRFk9PwdQ55a&t=3808] to Adam Grant explain the concept of a Challenge Network on the DOAC podcast. * 26:30 - Jerry Weinberg's 2nd Law of Consulting from his book The Secrets of Consulting [https://leanpub.com/thesecretsofconsulting] * "No matter how it looks at first, it's always a people problem." * Find more of Jerry's quotes on this page [https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Gerald_Weinberg] * 28:40 - Vern talking about his talk in episode 6 [https://thevernonrichardshow.com/6] "How No-Code Test Tools, Technical Leadership & Glue Work Impact Software Quality" * Tanya's Glue Work presentation [https://noidea.dog/glue] which you can read or watch * "What Is Quiet Quitting? [https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-62638908]" a BBC News article describing the phenomenon * Vernon's Agile Yorkshire presentation [https://youtu.be/EYTjTiRWrJo] where he describes the link between those concepts * 29:19 - Martin Hynie * Martin describing the wider impact [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/whoisvds4_its-been-over-a-decade-since-i-first-presented-activity-7234195928939724800-fQkv?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_desktop] of his talk * Martin's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/whoisvds4/] * 30:59 - Maaret Pyhäjärvi & Anna Baik * Anna's quote that Maaret shared [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/maaret_i-quote-anna-baik-for-comfort-i-may-not-activity-7185656727269236736-BwfR] on LinkedIn * Anna's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/anna-baik-616a599/] * Maaret's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/maaret/] * 34:35 - Prompt Engineer * What's a Prompt Engineer [https://www.perplexity.ai/search/what-s-a-prompt-engineer-IlREaVeUTweq8P.ou19VCQ#0]? * 35:30 - Adelina Chalmers * Adelina's AMA session [https://www.linkedin.com/events/7219957251023794176/about/?originTrackingId=LLINWN7qQKS48zFREUTT5g%3D%3D] that I joined (please follow her and join her sessions, she's AWESOME!) * Adelina's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adelinachalmers/] 00:00 Introduction and Technical Discussion 01:27 - What's going on with Rich's fingers?! 01:36 Challenges and Misunderstandings Faced by Testers and Quality Engineers 01:54 - Everything the Testers in your team want to tell you but are too afraid 02:50 - Vern's theory 07:40 - Why do other roles get "the nutrients" they need? 08:09 The Value of Testers and the Need for Supportive Leadership 10:26 - What do leaders misunderstand about the value of Testers and QEs? 11:38 - Support networks Vs Challenger networks 12:09 - The bugs we report that people REALLY don't like! 12:43 - System problems disguised as testing problems 14:37 Shifting Expectations for Developers and the Evolving Understanding of Testing 14:53 - Groundhog day! 16:10 - Rich wonders if our expectations are reasonable 19:29 - How does the world perceive Developers, Designers, and Testers? 21:04 - How expectations have changed for Developers 23:07 Creating a Supportive and Nurturing Environment for Testers 24:08 - How a lack of curiosity impacts the wellbeing of your team 26:21 - Expectation vs Reality 26:59 Bridging the Gap: Expectations and Perspectives 27:27 - How to collaborate on expectations with the Tester in your life! 28:37 - Martin's crazy experiments, Glue Work, Technical Leadership, and Quality Engineering 30:13 - What does this tell us about the culture of the organisation? 30:58 Creating a Supportive Environment for Testers and Quality Engineers 31:52 - Rich asks if this is only a problem for people like us? 32:41 The Role of Tooling in Shaping Expectations 35:30 - What can we learn from the CEO/CTO relationship? 38:12 - What can we learn from relationships, period? 40:19 - ⚽️ Footy 42:16 - The impact of language and narrative on testing in the test tool market 45:50 - The link between testing, manual labour, and knowledge work 46:20 Advocating for Testers and Quality Engineers 47:10 - Hiring to solve problems or to put bums in seats 48:00 - Rich takes us back to the chicken and egg 50:08 - A potential new focus and name for the show! 51:22 - Outro

In this episode, Richard and Vernon discuss the topic of hiring and share their thoughts on the annoying things that companies and hiring managers do. They emphasize the importance of seeking clarification and understanding the context behind red flags on a candidate's CV. They also discuss the power dynamic in the hiring process and provide advice for job seekers on how to mitigate potential problems. They highlight the value of storytelling and narrative in CVs and suggest cherry-picking relevant experiences to showcase in job applications. In this conversation, Richard and Vernon discuss job hunting strategies and offer advice for those looking for new roles. They emphasize the importance of networking, building a personal brand, and being intentional about what you share on platforms like LinkedIn. They also discuss the distinction between skills and tools in job specifications and CVs, encouraging a focus on transferable skills rather than specific tools. The conversation concludes with a call for feedback and suggestions from listeners. #softwaretesting #software #hiring #hiringtips Links to stuff we mentioned during the pod: * 01:43 - Vernon's LinkedIn post [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vernonrichards_greetings-hiring-managers-i-have-a-small-activity-7213937963607470080-4t-6] about how NOT to handle "red flags" spotted on CVs! * 09:41 - Wayne Bennett, FRSA, CertRP * Wayne's comment [https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7213937963607470080?commentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Acomment%3A%28activity%3A7213937963607470080%2C7214194227608514561%29&dashCommentUrn=urn%3Ali%3Afsd_comment%3A%287214194227608514561%2Curn%3Ali%3Aactivity%3A7213937963607470080%29] on my post * Wayne's recruitment firm [https://made4techglobal.com/] Made4Tech Global * Wayne's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-bennett-frsa-certrp/] * 17:47 - Recruiters we think are awesome! * Wayne Bennet's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/wayne-bennett-frsa-certrp/] (particularly for Manchester and NW England roles) * Kelli Jackson's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/expertedge/] (for North American roles and runs a community [https://www.skool.com/expert-edge/about] for midlifers changing careers) * Gabbi Trotter's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/gabbisearchability/] (UK wide but particularly the North West and Midlands roles) * Samir Mehta's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sambmehta/] (although he's internal now & works with Rich the poor guy) * Jamie Doyle's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-doyle-b3a663a/] (UK wide and a legend) * Kristina Javůrková's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kristinajavurkovahr/] (for Benelux roles) * Matt Drinkwater's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/mattdrinkwater/] (UK wide and hosts QE Babble) * James Duke's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamesduke1/] (UK wide and lover of fast cars) * 18:07 - Book: Never Split The Difference by Chris Voss * An explanation of Labelling [https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-does-chris-voss-explain-la-mfhVNXMeQ_acHAp6QqoL_A] * An explanation of an Accusation Audit [https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-does-chris-voss-explain-wh-1sQkpSW9S46WYNrRSTxzow] * Chris's website [https://www.blackswanltd.com/chris-voss] * Grab the book [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Never-Split-Difference-Negotiating-Depended/dp/B07T7L39TN] from Amazon * 23:53 - Huib Schoots * Huib's website [https://www.huibschoots.nl/] * And Huib is one of the folks I've heard talk about storytelling! You can find that presentation here [https://www.huibschoots.nl/storytelling/]. * Huib's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/huibschoots/] * 32:28 - Alan Richardson * Alan's website [https://www.eviltester.com/] * Alan's Patreon community [https://www.patreon.com/eviltester/posts] * Alan's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/eviltester/] * 43:01 - The Quality Talks Podcast * The Quality Talks podcast [https://www.youtube.com/@QualityTalksPodcast] hosted by Stu and Chris * Stu's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/stuart-day-77155330/] * Chris's Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/christopher-henderson-344231156/] * 48:01 - Elizabeth Zagroba * Elizabeth's article Doubt Builds Trust [https://elizabethzagroba.com/posts/2017/2017-08-06_doubt-builds-trust/] * Which contains an example [https://elizabethzagroba.com/assets/resumes/trustworthy-resume.pdf] of a Trustworthy CV * Elizabeth's website [https://elizabethzagroba.com/] * Elizabeth's LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ezagroba/] * 53:18 - The Never Search Alone [https://www.phyl.org/] movement 00:00 - Intro 00:49 - Let's talk about hiring 01:00 - Hiring managers annoying habits 01:43 - Vern's rant about "red flags" on CVs 03:59 - Rich explains why he thinks option C is reasonable (in the circumstances!) 05:30 - Hiring is like software development! 05:37 - Red flags == Bugs in production 06:42 - Red flags == Feature flags / AB tests 09:41 - A recruiter's perspective on the issue 12:15 - How Rich approached his recent job search 14:11 - Don't be passive during the interview: Asking questions, clarifications, and storytelling 15:30 - How to handle objections during an interview 16:36 - The importance of weaving the hidden gems of your experience into you interview 18:07 - How Labelling and Accusation Audits can help you in interviews How to combine labelling and an accusation audits to your advantage in interviews 19:31 - Leverage your risk analysis skills to prep for your interview 20:30 - How to sell yourself short in an interview 23:20 - The meta skill of storytelling 24:49 - Storytelling with your CV 28:04 - Excellent advice about leveraging LinkedIn that Vern isn't following! 29:49 - Rich's advice about what information to include and Vern's mysterious friends' experience trying to take that advice 31:26 - Contradictory job hunting advice and how to swerve it 32:05 - The ultimate hack(s) for job hunting 36:10 - How do you decide or calculate what kind of material to include in your "personal brand"? 41:09 - The balance of serious vs fun content 43:01 - Rich questions who Vern chooses to hang out with 43:39 - How to share other people's ideas and yours at the same time 45:47 - Shout out to PastRich! 46:06 - Rich wants to talk about how we talk about skills 48:01 - Elizabeth Zagroba's interesting take on writing CVs 51:21 - Vern has an idea for the next episode 52:51 - What advice did we miss? Help!