This Week in AI
The future of AI isn't about whether the model is smart enough. It's about whether we can afford to run it. We dug into the AI cost panic, the energy wall that's coming for compute, and why "developers are disappearing" gets the economics exactly backwards.This week's roundtable: Naveen Rao (CEO of Unconventional AI, building brain-inspired analog chips, formerly sold companies to Intel and Databricks) and Alex Finn (founder of Henry Intelligent Machines and Creator Buddy).Thank you to our exclusive sponsor: PayPal Open, One Platform for All Business: http://paypalopen.com/ [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbk9nSm8xZDBHMUZkTmFjTlZzam9HUkl2SzdJUXxBQ3Jtc0ttNEw4TWVkQ2tLeFNSbkpZeWc2V3ZvMXFnd2MzOUZPakJmR1BIOEVpa011OWI4ekNKV1RhLWNCdFp6ZmtlOUpzQVAxTndiTXZKWXJzajVqc1g4bE5LRHJGVFRmQzQtbjZBc1pRdzh0YW1ZVTZBcnIwcw&q=http%3A%2F%2Fpaypalopen.com%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]Timestamps:0:00 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM] Cold open1:21 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=81s] Welcome to Episode 162:44 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=164s] Is the AI cost panic real, or just "token maxing"?5:08 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=308s] It's not the intelligence, it's how people use AI9:40 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=580s] Surgeons vs. shotguns: prompt discipline & matching models to tasks13:10 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=790s] Naveen's path from Intel and Databricks to Unconventional15:08 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=908s] Why developers aren't disappearing18:37 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=1117s] How energy overtook CapEx in the cost of compute21:34 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=1294s] The energy wall & getting to 3 orders of magnitude more efficient25:52 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=1552s] AI's PR problem & the data center backlash27:55 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=1675s] China's hunger vs. America's AI boogeyman30:38 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=1838s] Data center taxes, equity stakes & the politics of AI upside37:54 [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51YfNaWJSJM&t=2274s] The Anthropic IPO & how these founders actually invest🔗 Guests:Naveen Rao, Unconventional AI: https://unconv.ai [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa2NPM2E1SkJEVnlJZW1rSVBVQmc1RExLNWRlUXxBQ3Jtc0trTnc2cERDdS12ZVI4TV93VjJHc05Cc2x3clAwWkpoak1lRkdqcnBjRXMyalZQTk5OeS1GSDd2eXY1MzJWMDAwakdmWnRUUzV6OENjMTA0bDBVT1NJQWpZZGp5X09YdndXRzc0NG9PcWZFaWQ4US05NA&q=https%3A%2F%2Funconv.ai%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM] | https://x.com/AlexFinn [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbUk1QlpNTmF4V2N2c3JVM3p5Q2ltOGxncThkd3xBQ3Jtc0tsNmpEQWFKS3VzOHI1TGpZZ0RsZVdiMkc3RmlNc0U3QndkTDhyWXVsS3d3UEw2bjNQYlI0Wm5QLU5peXVGblRRT05XVnkzOEU1NWgxSmFNdnk2N2NNbnZfWlZ1TnhfOEpaNUVIb25YV2Fndl9NelpiOA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2FAlexFinn&v=51YfNaWJSJM]Alex Finn, Henry Intelligent Machines: https://meethenry.ai [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHA1LXpaNE5FbHRZNnBrR2hnNnF2QkJDYXc2d3xBQ3Jtc0ttNEZhTmZfOW80VzZYa2w1dGk0emtlOFZVNGhwLURCVUVYSUlWTVo3Y2FiQ0d1MTlSV281ZjZlaXZ2OF9XTkxsRGdGZ3NzVHFHWU1DQWl4b0I0UnY4YW1iUWw1UGdRNG52cC13S3pCb1c4U2xQMHAtOA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmeethenry.ai%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM] | https://x.com/NaveenGRao [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbHp3UGVDYi1ZdzdVdGlvdU42c3JQYm1jdG92UXxBQ3Jtc0trbGd1RFRVdTZNTC1NX19EdlQ2eE1kejg1NzByNG1EWFphMjlHOVlOUFN3VEl5VTVsNmJOVG5YMFZTSEtXRVZvRjJMZ25aMFpJT2lLWVR5N09VWVlhWlJoSlZETFFpRW43UU1FWGZmemtGQmxXbVlFMA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2FNaveenGRao&v=51YfNaWJSJM]🔗 Host:Alex Wilhelm, This Week in Startups: https://x.com/alex [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbjV4ODNnZXZHaWVNeHEyOU45VHROUEtZRVJRQXxBQ3Jtc0trQjZ3LUVxdGFLQ3d3dHdQdGk5Z3lVdlBOYUxCdi0zU0RJRXo3YUZ4clZDaUxBVkNOdExWQnRtdUoyT2pnenBHdHl3SmgtcUFRbElrVzJKczZtSlE1OXBNeFlUOGVTZDhTWG91WnJaVVFKOS1yS1JBVQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fx.com%2Falex&v=51YfNaWJSJM]🔗 Referenced in this episode:Unconventional AI (analog chips for AI): https://unconv.ai [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqa2wxZUQ3RDlJa1JuQzkyclhuUXZIQ0xtb0wyUXxBQ3Jtc0trQmpTdWpUMVg2Q3d3YTV6MlQ4OEhkSEM2RGdjRVF0V01LSUtucS1JZy1aNGh4VlR4Qm0yVDh0YzU2MElqeXFWVTBSN2xJckVKcWF3bEc3cFBBRERQaFRET2FPM2plRENscjRDeGkzMzhrSW10Q1JVSQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Funconv.ai%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]MosaicML (acquired by Databricks): https://www.databricks.com/research/m... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbDY2dV9scjlxaUhSYm0wQmxFWVZRLW1aWkp1Z3xBQ3Jtc0trX3g2aXl2NFVlR0FhMERUQ3Q2X1ZEN0pvVWtjNnlJQ29kRTFMWXZGQzhuVGh0cGJSYlkwWkstZXVNX2RySXVZbkx2d3dRa3Rhbk5ubHkyOFBQVnB6S1ZfWU85VncyZGhWQWFzT2Fkb1BOWFV5N1FRaw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.databricks.com%2Fresearch%2Fmosaic&v=51YfNaWJSJM]Nervana Systems (acquired by Intel)Creator Buddy: https://creatorbuddy.io [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqblMyMjJhWlVLcjJrQ2FuU0dsdG40MjZKd3I3Z3xBQ3Jtc0tsRVEwU2hscldKUEh5NmYxN0lDQ2EwcU42RHE4U3BkTnFtQkJ1LVl5ZERvZHE3OGtfT3pBS1JOM1pmVnppYjFCdS1fZk5kWTQ3Z1NQZzR3N3hnVFJ1LUx1bGlMbWJPNnVmcUNyelRIWlFNVkYtdUpETQ&q=https%3A%2F%2Fcreatorbuddy.io%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]Qwen (open-weight model Alex runs locally): https://qwenlm.ai [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbm1lZWhkaXpUTWhpS01ucDBWT3gwSUpoNFlzd3xBQ3Jtc0tuRHVUcEgxLXNIN0ZyNlJhcXpPblJVcGx3VWk0NldhcXVHcXNEbVJ6am9XVENPS09MV2hETWZaRWRscWxub3lXRDBSMXl0ODRNSU5PV2FueHNiZTEzRkJ3Q1BuZVJXSVF6Y2VkVS03MmZaV0FORlI0cw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fqwenlm.ai%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]NVIDIA DGX Spark: https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/products... [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbWJwTWoxeldVM1pYRWVSNTltX3VsMUdHRGxtZ3xBQ3Jtc0tuX3BMNzFSYzJjZW9MUTVMcHJDeF9hYU1jeFBnMy1LdlNtS2Vxa1g5b1RZOE9wM0tYakdsZ3Q5LTdPaDRxS1B2LUhhVEsyMzdnZC1iV2owSnlJM2VSNVFzNVV5RWFsOTQyZmFKbm1HeXBHSkJFYjZTNA&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.nvidia.com%2Fen-us%2Fproducts%2Fworkstations%2Fdgx-spark%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]Anthropic (filed to go public): https://www.anthropic.com [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbkpNNFdQSEhoam1jSy1uRGtZMm5VdWVrc0NwQXxBQ3Jtc0tuNjlDN3RmVzd2VkV1cXZOc2pUS1J2RTFnS3o3aE8wQldLR0JGbTgzbGVjUDhVbUFNdWVwQTRuZ0hmNHBCV3cxMVUtUlZaRW53ZE1fN1htbzBaMjlrdXQxOGZsXzlKbkFWdGNuamcyVTU3b0oyZnNfcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.anthropic.com%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]Henry Intelligent Machines: https://meethenry.ai/ [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbW43TW5GVkc4T3NZbHcwYmJaT2JudUViME94Z3xBQ3Jtc0ttTzV6TEVrVG05X2JDQjhQWHRJQTdqaXZIYlZxMl9qdGlRUWh4eFNYTEdIdzZQR24yNzdfN0Rjb1IyZG5PdTE3UWtDd0JQUGVIME4wRENxZXJ2YmVtV2FHLTZkUEM1RjF6YnBzTTY4TGFYbXhJMzJWcw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fmeethenry.ai%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]🔗 Subscribe and follow:Newsletter and all platforms: https://thisweekinai.ai [https://www.youtube.com/redirect?event=video_description&redir_token=QUFFLUhqbF9nSmZ0UTJZSEIwNVUwOEJTM3U3VHRkWi1sQXxBQ3Jtc0trcHEyWGN5SDRMTmtHVGpscThkNDd5NFJxOXdkeWJ4SDJmWERxUVFudmZVLUowaHFzakluWXRHejZiRGp4cHRVc2haMHhGOUNJUUN0aFcteFgtN1lZRm5pYXVNNjJ3TlNNeFpTVm1YVkthZ0lMT2FyYw&q=https%3A%2F%2Fthisweekinai.ai%2F&v=51YfNaWJSJM]#ThisWeekInAI [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/thisweekinai] #AI [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ai] #UnconventionalAI [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/unconventionalai] #NaveenRao [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/naveenrao] #AlexFinn [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/alexfinn] #AnalogComputing [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/analogcomputing] #AIcompute [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/aicompute] #AIenergy [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/aienergy] #TokenMaxing [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/tokenmaxing] #AIlayoffs [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/ailayoffs] #AnthropicIPO [https://www.youtube.com/hashtag/anthropicipo]
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