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DeepSeek just raised $7.4B at a $50B valuation 🇨🇳and there's no cap table access. It's structured through an SPV, no voting rights, no board seats. CEO Liang Wenfeng put in $3B of his own money and controls the vehicle. Meanwhile Anthropic is trading above $1T on the secondary market despite Mythos getting staged by the government, and SpaceX just locked in its Nasdaq 100 slot with a $2T valuation on a float of only ~6%. Plus: Michael O'Keefe of CAZ Investments breaks down how a $12B GP stakes portfolio actually gets built. 00:00 – cold open 00:54 – [ tech and vc news ] 02:33 – SpaceX joins Nasdaq-100 🚀 08:39 – Anthropic hits $1T valuation & IPO outlook 💸 14:45 – OpenAI builds its own chip + 2027 IPO delay 🤖 18:07 – AI memory demand surges (Micron wins, Apple/customers pay more) 💾 20:24 – Cerebras falls below its IPO price 📉 22:46 – AI token costs rising; customers shift to Chinese open-weight models 🔄 28:24 – Bending Spoons targets ~$19–20B IPO on profitable roll-up strategy 🥄 32:56 – [ intvw: Michael O’Keefe @ CAZ ] 33:22 – CAZ manages $12B AUM 💰 36:04 – What is GP stake investing? 📊 44:19 – Typical check sizes & fund sizes 45:45 – How GP stakes are valued 📈 56:52 – Where CAZ is investing today: AI, energy, sports 🤖 1:00:05 – The secondary market boom 🔥 1:02:45 – [ valuation corner: DeepSeek @ $50B ] 1:03:40 – Largest seed round ever? 🏆 1:04:45 – SPV mechanics & stockholder structure 🛠️ 1:07:40 – Users and revenue growth 📈 1:10:25 – DeepSeek vs. OpenAI comparison 🆚 [ links ] [ invest = https://practicalvc.com ] [ trading places socials = www.linktr.ee/tradingplacespod ] [ michael o’keefe = https://www.linkedin.com/in/mjoii/ | https://cazinvestments.com/ ] [ aman verjee = https://www.linkedin.com/in/aman-verjee | https://x.com/amanverjee ] [ dave mcclure = https://www.linkedin.com/in/davemcclure | https://x.com/davemcclure ] Thank you for watching #tradingplacespodcast #SpaceX #ClaraVydyanath #davemcclure #SpaceXIPO
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