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Why Your Psychosocial Risk Assessment Isn’t Stopping Staff Burnout

1 h 8 min · 16. juni 2026
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Most school leaders understand that psychosocial safety is a legal obligation. Very few have figured out how to make it feel like anything more than a compliance activity.  In this solo episode, I unpack the gap between obligation and opportunity, and what it actually takes to move psychosocial safety from a four-step process on a page to something genuinely woven into how a school leads, communicates and operates. Drawing on data from almost 80 schools and thousands of staff, I walk through common psychosocial hazards in Australian schools, why they are connected rather than isolated, and why the four-step risk management process, while important, is actually the easiest part of the whole process. The real work is not in the paperwork. It’s the leadership commitment and authentic ongoing consultation that determine whether any of it sticks. What I cover in this episode: * What is missing from the four-step risk assessment process in many schools * The national data: the most common psychosocial hazards in Australian schools and why they compound each other * Why good communication underpins the entire process, and how to ensure your messaging lands * How to embed wellbeing into your school’s way of doing and not let it be an initiative layered on top of others * Leadership commitment as the foundation: why it falters, what it actually requires, and the personal and professional skills that make it land * Why the hardest feedback can be the most important data you will ever receive * What the Safe Work Australia Code of Practice actually requires of school leaders, and why most schools are not quite there yet Resources and links mentioned: * Article: The Wellbeing Weave: The Three Phases of Addressing Staff Wellbeing in Well-Led Schools adriennehornby.com.au/the-wellbeing-weave-the-three-phases-of-addressing-staff-wellbeing-in-well-led-schools/ [http://adriennehornby.com.au/the-wellbeing-weave-the-three-phases-of-addressing-staff-wellbeing-in-well-led-schools/]   * Article: Embedding a Sustainable Wellbeing Ecosystem: The Key to Psychosocial Safety and Staff Wellbeing * adriennehornby.com.au/designing-a-sustainable-wellbeing-ecosystem-the-key-to-psychosocial-safety/ [http://adriennehornby.com.au/designing-a-sustainable-wellbeing-ecosystem-the-key-to-psychosocial-safety/]   * Podcast: Creating a School Culture Where Staff Feel Seen, Heard and Valued with Daniela Falecki https://adriennehornby.com.au/creating-a-school-culture-where-staff-feel-seen-heard-and-valued-with-daniela-falecki-season-3-episode-10/ [https://adriennehornby.com.au/creating-a-school-culture-where-staff-feel-seen-heard-and-valued-with-daniela-falecki-season-3-episode-10/] * Waverley Christian School Case Study: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205_most-school-wellbeing-initiatives-fail-or-ugcPost-7465421290833805312-QVL9/?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=member_desktop_web&rcm=ACoAADQvl1EBSRJtRkz0cewFH4TjXfHExS9B0F4 [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205_most-school-wellbeing-initiatives-fail-or-ugcPost-7465421290833805312-QVL9/?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=member_desktop_web&rcm=ACoAADQvl1EBSRJtRkz0cewFH4TjXfHExS9B0F4] If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts.

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episode Why Your Psychosocial Risk Assessment Isn’t Stopping Staff Burnout cover

Why Your Psychosocial Risk Assessment Isn’t Stopping Staff Burnout

Most school leaders understand that psychosocial safety is a legal obligation. Very few have figured out how to make it feel like anything more than a compliance activity.  In this solo episode, I unpack the gap between obligation and opportunity, and what it actually takes to move psychosocial safety from a four-step process on a page to something genuinely woven into how a school leads, communicates and operates. Drawing on data from almost 80 schools and thousands of staff, I walk through common psychosocial hazards in Australian schools, why they are connected rather than isolated, and why the four-step risk management process, while important, is actually the easiest part of the whole process. The real work is not in the paperwork. It’s the leadership commitment and authentic ongoing consultation that determine whether any of it sticks. What I cover in this episode: * What is missing from the four-step risk assessment process in many schools * The national data: the most common psychosocial hazards in Australian schools and why they compound each other * Why good communication underpins the entire process, and how to ensure your messaging lands * How to embed wellbeing into your school’s way of doing and not let it be an initiative layered on top of others * Leadership commitment as the foundation: why it falters, what it actually requires, and the personal and professional skills that make it land * Why the hardest feedback can be the most important data you will ever receive * What the Safe Work Australia Code of Practice actually requires of school leaders, and why most schools are not quite there yet Resources and links mentioned: * Article: The Wellbeing Weave: The Three Phases of Addressing Staff Wellbeing in Well-Led Schools adriennehornby.com.au/the-wellbeing-weave-the-three-phases-of-addressing-staff-wellbeing-in-well-led-schools/ [http://adriennehornby.com.au/the-wellbeing-weave-the-three-phases-of-addressing-staff-wellbeing-in-well-led-schools/]   * Article: Embedding a Sustainable Wellbeing Ecosystem: The Key to Psychosocial Safety and Staff Wellbeing * adriennehornby.com.au/designing-a-sustainable-wellbeing-ecosystem-the-key-to-psychosocial-safety/ [http://adriennehornby.com.au/designing-a-sustainable-wellbeing-ecosystem-the-key-to-psychosocial-safety/]   * Podcast: Creating a School Culture Where Staff Feel Seen, Heard and Valued with Daniela Falecki https://adriennehornby.com.au/creating-a-school-culture-where-staff-feel-seen-heard-and-valued-with-daniela-falecki-season-3-episode-10/ [https://adriennehornby.com.au/creating-a-school-culture-where-staff-feel-seen-heard-and-valued-with-daniela-falecki-season-3-episode-10/] * Waverley Christian School Case Study: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205_most-school-wellbeing-initiatives-fail-or-ugcPost-7465421290833805312-QVL9/?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=member_desktop_web&rcm=ACoAADQvl1EBSRJtRkz0cewFH4TjXfHExS9B0F4 [https://www.linkedin.com/posts/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205_most-school-wellbeing-initiatives-fail-or-ugcPost-7465421290833805312-QVL9/?utm_source=social_share_send&utm_medium=member_desktop_web&rcm=ACoAADQvl1EBSRJtRkz0cewFH4TjXfHExS9B0F4] If you enjoyed this episode, don’t forget to subscribe and leave a review wherever you get your podcasts.

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Leaders Don’t Need More Things to Do, They Need More Time to Think with Aimee Presnall

What if the one thing that would make the biggest difference to your wellbeing, strategic clarity and positive school culture as a school leader isn’t another strategy or initiative, it’s simply more time to think? In this episode of Well-Led Schools, I’m joined for the third time by Aimee Presnall - leadership coach, TEDx speaker and founder of Wellnest. After more than 16 years in education, Aimee built her career around one observation that kept repeating itself: brilliant school leaders burning out while the systems around them kept asking for more. Aimee’s recent TEDx talk landed on something leaders feel in their bones but rarely hear said out loud: that we’re treating the shadow, not the source; that when leaders don’t have time to think, everything downstream suffers, their clarity, their team’s culture, and ultimately their students. We go deep on what actually changes when leaders are given space to develop the human skills needed to lead people well, why one-off PD rarely shifts anything, and what it takes for schools to build a genuine coaching culture rather than a tick-box one. In this episode: * Why leaders don’t need more things to do, but rather need more time to think * Clarity vs certainty: what staff want vs what leaders can actually give * Why giving yourself dedicated time to think feels so difficult * How recognising your default, high-pressure habits creates the fastest leadership shift * What one-off PD misses in comparison to navigating the “messy middle” of long-term coaching * The three pathways into middle leadership (aspiring, accidental, anointed), and how they shape your mindset LINKS AND RESOURCES Connect with Aimee Presnall via: Wellnest: www.well-nest.com.au [http://www.well-nest.com.au]  TED Talk: youtu.be/qjGM4esebQU?si=5eyFpR_-0KbUngty [http://youtu.be/qjGM4esebQU?si=5eyFpR_-0KbUngty]  LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/aimee-parkinson/ [http://www.linkedin.com/in/aimee-parkinson/]  Connect with me via: Website: adriennehornby.com.au [http://adriennehornby.com.au] LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/ [http://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/] Email: hello@adriennehornby.com.au [hello@adriennehornby.com.au] School Partnerships: adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/ [http://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/]

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Most schools have wellbeing programs or initiatives. Very few have wellbeing embedded into the way they function and flourish. That is the difference between bolting something on and creating real, lasting change. In this episode, I am joined by Justin Robinson, co-founder of the Wellbeing Distillery and formerly the founding director of the Institute of Positive Education at Geelong Grammar School. Justin has worked with hundreds of schools across Australia and internationally, and his approach is built on the idea that wellbeing has to be embedded across the whole school community, not delivered as a series of disconnected initiatives. We unpack what it actually takes to move from add-on programs to embedded practice, and why so many schools get stuck in the cycle of doing more without seeing more results. In this episode: * Why a collection of programs is not the same as embedded wellbeing * The four partners every school needs to engage: leaders, staff, students and families * The most common mistake schools make when rolling wellbeing out across the whole community * How adopting the mindset that "wellbeing is a shared responsibility" changes the way you design your whole approach * Practical starting points for schools that want to shift from doing wellbeing to being a wellbeing-led school LINKS AND RESOURCES * 7 Habits of Wellbeing-Wise Families: https://drive.google.com/file/d/18SmHYlVuY60XGq_g3b8bMYkUrmq5AdAE/view?usp=drive_link [https://drive.google.com/file/d/18SmHYlVuY60XGq_g3b8bMYkUrmq5AdAE/view?usp=drive_link]   * Wellbeing Compass Brochure: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L_GRARsSBWpkcTN3rrCaQJOS2qY-uZ8F/view?usp=drive_link [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1L_GRARsSBWpkcTN3rrCaQJOS2qY-uZ8F/view?usp=drive_link]  Connect with Justin: * Website: thewellbeingdistillery.com [http://thewellbeingdistillery.com] * Email: justin@thewellbeingdistillery.com [justin@thewellbeingdistillery.com]  * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/jrobinson-wellbeing [http://linkedin.com/in/jrobinson-wellbeing] Connect with Adrienne: * Website: adriennehornby.com.au [http://adriennehornby.com.au] * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205 [http://linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205] * Email: hello@adriennehornby.com.au [hello@adriennehornby.com.au]  * Staff Wellbeing Survey: http://adriennehornby.com.au/staff-survey/adriennehornby.com.au/staff-survey [http://adriennehornby.com.au/staff-survey] * Well-Led Schools Partnership Program: http://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships [http://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships]

6. maj 20261 h 18 min
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What Educators Actually Need to Feel Purposeful Again with Glen Gerreyn

It’s the start of a new term. Some of your staff may be walking back into school running on empty, not because they don’t care, but because they’ve lost sight of why it matters. What educators actually need to feel purposeful again isn’t another wellbeing afternoon or a gratitude wall. According to this week’s guest, it’s a reconnection to vision, and that’s something a school can teach, build and sustain. In this episode of Well-Led Schools, I'm joined by Glen Gerreyn, speaker, author, youth advocate and founder of The Hopeful Institute. His work, spanning two decades and hundreds of schools globally, is grounded in one powerful idea: hope is not a passive feeling. It's a skill. It's a strategy. And it can be taught. In this episode: * Glen's personal origin story: from elite athlete to disability pension to Young Australian of the Year * The three components of Hope Theory: goals, pathways, and agency * Why disengagement is often a vision crisis, not a behaviour problem * The Hopeful Schools Framework and how it works in practice * Why purpose and meaning matter as much as curriculum in education * What leaders can do to build hope into school culture systemically About Glen Gerreyn: Glen Gerreyn is a speaker, author and youth advocate who has dedicated his career to building hope in young people and the educators who work with them. After overcoming a serious a chronic illness that ended his career as a state champion sprinter, heGlen rebuilt his life through purpose, resilience and connection to meaning, and was named Young Australian of the Year in 1998. He is the founder of The Hopeful Institute and has worked with more than 300 schools across Australia and worldwide. His work draws on Charles Snyder's Hope Theory and translates it into practical frameworks that schools can embed into their culture. He is also the author of Men of Honor, a book on sexual ethics and character development for young men. Links and Resources * 50 Book Summaries for Educators [http://www.thehopefullinstitute.com/the-hopefull-institute-book-summaries/] * 7 Infographics (burnout, procrastination and more) [http://www.thehopefullinstitute.com/explore-our-7-latest-infographics/] * Well-Led Schools Partnership Program [http://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/] If this episode resonated, leaving a review wherever you are listening means the world. Thank you for listening! Connect with Glen via: Website: www.thehopefullinstitute.com/ [http://www.thehopefullinstitute.com/]  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glengerreyn/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/glengerreyn/] Pinterest: https://au.pinterest.com/glengerreyn/ [https://au.pinterest.com/glengerreyn/]  Connect with me via: My website: adriennehornby.com.au [http://adriennehornby.com.au] LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/ [http://linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/] Email: hello@adriennehornby.com.au [hello@adriennehornby.com.au]

21. apr. 20261 h 2 min
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From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Leadership Reset with Brad Gaynor

Burnout in school leadership is rarely dramatic. More often, it looks like a principal who has driven home in tears after holding it together all day, or a leader who lies awake at 2 am running through tomorrow’s decisions, or someone quietly building a wall between who they are at work and who they are at home. Brad Gaynor knows that experience firsthand. After more than 20 years as a primary school principal, Brad reached a breaking point he did not see coming. He kept it hidden from almost everyone,  colleagues, family, and community, while the weight of it quietly became unmanageable. It was only when he sought support, started writing and began to make sense of what had happened that From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Leadership Reset came to life. In this episode, Brad and I explore the story behind the book and the RESET framework it introduces. We talk about the leadership mythology that creates the conditions for burnout, the invisible load that school leaders carry, and why vulnerability in leadership is a strength, not a liability. Brad also shares what he has learned since writing the book through his current study in neuroscience and leadership, and why he believes the culture around overwork in education needs to change. We also get into the thorny but important question of joint responsibility: yes, individuals have a role in protecting their own wellbeing, but so do organisations. The conversation sits right at the heart of what Well-Led Schools is about. ---------------------------------------- In This Episode, We Cover * Brad’s personal burnout story and what finally led him to write the book * Why burnout builds gradually and the physical symptoms we normalise * The leadership mask and the invisible cost of keeping up appearances * What vulnerability in leadership actually means — and what it does not mean * The systemic factors in education that make burnout predictable, not inevitable * The RESET framework: Recognise, Explore, Shift, Embed, Thrive * The Four Rs of Brad’s personal journey: Recognition, Reflection, Realignment, Reinvention * Joint responsibility for wellbeing: where personal and organisational accountability meet * How leaders can model wellbeing without performing perfection * What Brad hopes the book gives school leaders who are quietly struggling ---------------------------------------- About Brad Brad Gaynor is an experienced educational leader and assistant director who works with principals and leadership teams across school improvement, development, coaching and leader wellbeing. After more than 20 years as a primary school principal, Brad knows firsthand the relentless pressures of educational leadership. That lived experience and his own recovery journey now underpin his work. His book, From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Leadership Reset, introduces the RESET framework as a practical, research-aligned roadmap for educational leaders seeking sustainable impact without losing themselves in the process. ---------------------------------------- Links and Resources * BOOK: From Burnout to Breakthrough: The Leadership Reset — Brad Gaynor [https://www.routledge.com/From-Burnout-to-Breakthrough-The-Leadership-Reset/Gaynor/p/book/9781041132066?source=shoppingads&locale=en-AUD&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=P7986470147_ECOMMC_cross-network&gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=20906719191&gbraid=0AAAAACwvVopuyOuxMvpYPUg4heep51vYv&gclid=Cj0KCQjws83OBhD4ARIsACblj1_zTM-7lXY1rB08el5nVYf8vf-IhmzOglFeN_P4VUu2MnOHwg47fxIaAiQkEALw_wcB] * Connect with Brad on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-gaynor-92b68b53/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/brad-gaynor-92b68b53/]   * Well-Led Schools Partnership Program: adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/ [http://adriennehornby.com.au/school-partnerships/]  Thank you so much for listening. I am so honoured that you are here and would be so grateful if you could leave me a review on Apple Podcasts or on your preferred podcast app, so that we can inspire and educate even more people together. * Website: adriennehornby.com.au [adriennehornby.com.au] * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/  [linkedin.com/in/adrienne-hornby-a4126a205/] * Email: hello@adriennehornby.com.au [hello@adriennehornby.com.au] See omnystudio.com/listener [https://omnystudio.com/listener] for privacy information.

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