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Cause of Action with Spencer Pahlke

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About Cause of Action with Spencer Pahlke

A show about building a thriving legal career and practicing law that can change the world.In law school, you often hear a standard narrative. You can go into Big Law. Or you can get a job in government or nonprofits. In other words, you can either make money or do good in the world. But not both. Cause of Action with Spencer Pahlke dispels this myth, showing law students that there’s a third path: working as a plaintiffs’ attorney. With plaintiffs’ law, you can make a good living while fighting for causes you care about, from civil rights to environmental protection to corporate fraud.Each episode, San Francisco-based plaintiffs’ attorney and UC Berkeley Law instructor Spencer Pahlke sits down with one of the top attorneys in the country, exploring what they do, and how law students can find a job they’ll love.

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7 episodes

episode 6 | When "We the People" Hire a Plaintiffs' Firm artwork

6 | When "We the People" Hire a Plaintiffs' Firm

Here’s something people don’t often mention: As a plaintiffs’ attorney, you can work side by side with government litigators, taking on some of the most important issues in the country. Case in point, today’s guest: June Pineda Hoidal. June is a managing partner of Zimmerman Reed. The Minneapolis-based firm collaborates with public entities, and has fought back against the opioid epidemic, major polluters, and the Trump administration, just to name a few. June unpacks what it’s like to bring government cases from within a private firm. Later, Spencer sits down with 2L Marissa Lambert for a check-in on finals and the upcoming summer. Suggestions for topics? Questions for our guests? Email the show at Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com [Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com]. Learn more about plaintiffs’ law from the National Plaintiffs’ Law Association [https://www.nationalplaintiffslawassociation.org/]. Additional details on the NPLA’s Linktree [https://linktr.ee/nationalpla].

28 Apr 2026 - 47 min
episode 5 | Three Law Students Walk into the Plaintiffs’ Bar artwork

5 | Three Law Students Walk into the Plaintiffs’ Bar

On today’s episode, Boston College 2L Marissa Lambert sits down with Angie Pati and Jonathan Koehler, law students at NYU and Rutgers. Angie and Jonathan discuss the ideals that brought them to law school, and how those values are leading them to careers on the plaintiff side. They detail the networking strategies that helped them find jobs, and Jonathan shares his secret for how to study for law school while you’re asleep. Suggestions for topics? Questions for our guests? Email the show at Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com [Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com]. Learn more about plaintiffs’ law from the National Plaintiffs’ Law Association [https://www.nationalplaintiffslawassociation.org/]. Additional details on the NPLA’s Linktree [https://linktr.ee/nationalpla].

21 Apr 2026 - 42 min
episode 4 | What It’s Like to Be an Associate at a Plaintiffs’ Firm artwork

4 | What It’s Like to Be an Associate at a Plaintiffs’ Firm

So far, we’ve been speaking with veteran attorneys—litigators who’ve spent decades taking on corporate giants. But today, we wanted to bring on someone who’s a little closer to law school. Someone who only recently went through the gauntlet of school, summer jobs, and studying for the bar – and who’s currently working as an associate at a plaintiffs’ firm. Jenna Forster is a fourth-year associate at Motley Rice [https://www.motleyrice.com/]. In just a short time, she’s already worked on cases taking on opioid manufacturers, vape companies, and social media platforms. Jenna joins Spencer to discuss her path into plaintiffs’ law, and what her day-to-day work is actually like. She also makes a strong pitch for joining your law school’s mock trial team. Suggestions for topics? Questions for our guests? Email the show at Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com [Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com]. Learn more about plaintiffs’ law from the National Plaintiffs’ Law Association [https://www.nationalplaintiffslawassociation.org/]. Additional details on the NPLA’s Linktree [https://linktr.ee/nationalpla].

14 Apr 2026 - 37 min
episode 3 | The Defense Attorney Who Exposed the Truth About Forever Chemicals artwork

3 | The Defense Attorney Who Exposed the Truth About Forever Chemicals

You often hear that summer jobs in law school can lay the foundation for your career. Which is kind of terrifying. It creates the impression that your decisions as a 1L can determine the entire course of your life. But here's the truth: your career is not going to be a straight line. Just ask today’s guest, Rob Bilott. Rob started as a defense attorney. But he’s gone on to bring major environmental class actions against chemical companies, and helped expose the truth about toxic "forever chemicals." Rob’s book Exposure [https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Exposure/Robert-Bilott/9781501172823] chronicles the fight. Hollywood even made a movie about his work. Suggestions for topics? Questions for our guests? Email the show at Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com [Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com]. Learn more about plaintiffs’ law from the National Plaintiffs’ Law Association [https://www.nationalplaintiffslawassociation.org/]. Additional details on the NPLA’s Linktree [https://linktr.ee/nationalpla].

31 Mar 2026 - 53 min
episode 2 | Fighting for Workers' Rights artwork

2 | Fighting for Workers' Rights

It’s no secret that companies are stealing from their workers. Wage theft is rampant in America, but plaintiffs’ attorneys like Shannon Liss-Riordan are fighting back. Shannon is one of the country’s top lawyers bringing employment class actions, and in today’s episode, she and Spencer discuss Shannon’s cases against companies like Uber and FedEx. Later, Boston College law student Marissa Lambert joins Spencer to unpack President Trump’s attacks on America’s law firms. To learn more about upcoming plaintiffs’ law fellowship opportunities at Shannon’s firm, visit www.llrlaw.com [http://www.llrlaw.com/] or email: fellowship@llrlaw.com [fellowship@llrlaw.com]. Sign the amicus brief [https://www.nationalplaintiffslawassociation.org/amicus-brief] opposing President Trump’s attacks on America’s law firms. Suggestions for topics? Questions for our guests? Email the show at Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com [Spencer@CauseOfActionPodcast.com]. Learn more about plaintiffs’ law from the National Plaintiffs’ Law Association [https://www.nationalplaintiffslawassociation.org/]. Additional details on the NPLA’s Linktree [https://linktr.ee/nationalpla].

24 Mar 2026 - 48 min
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