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#784: How to Build a Brand People Can't Stop Talking About with Damien and Jessica Zouaoui
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Episode Overview In this episode of the Agent to CEO Podcast, John Kitchens sits down with entrepreneurs Damien and Jessica Zouaoui, founders of Oakwell Beer Spa, to unpack one of the most creative and experience-driven business models in hospitality today. What started as two corporate professionals living in New York City turned into a 14-month trip around the world searching for the perfect business idea. That journey eventually led them to a concept almost nobody in America had seen before: 👉 A luxury beer spa experience combining wellness, hospitality, craft beer, and human connection. But this conversation goes far beyond spas and hospitality. Damien and Jessica break down the real lessons behind building a scalable business: Why unreasonable hospitality is the future How customer experience creates word-of-mouth growth What it takes to scale brick-and-mortar businesses Why systems and SOPs matter How married couples can successfully build together The power of creating emotional connection inside your brand This episode is a masterclass in building a business people don't just buy from—but remember forever. Key Topics Covered Leaving Corporate America to Chase a Bigger Vision Damien and Jessica share how they walked away from successful corporate careers in New York City to pursue entrepreneurship. After getting married just nine months after meeting, they made a bold decision: Quit their jobs Sell everything they owned Pack two backpacks Travel the world until they found the right business idea Their mission: Find a concept with: Longevity Scalability Strong market timing Emotional connection "We weren't coming home until we found the perfect business idea." Discovering the Beer Spa Concept The breakthrough happened while traveling through Europe. Jessica immediately saw the opportunity: Beer + wellness + hospitality = a massive untapped opportunity in America. Damien initially approached it more cautiously, analyzing: Market fit Cultural adaptation Pricing models Geographic viability Scalability potential Together, they combined intuition + strategy to create the Oakwell concept. Why Hospitality Is Their Competitive Advantage Oakwell Beer Spa isn't just about beer baths. It's about how people feel the moment they walk through the door. From personalized greetings to scent marketing, curated music, private spa suites, and handwritten details, every part of the experience was intentionally designed to create emotional connection. Their philosophy: 👉 Hospitality is not transactional. 👉 Hospitality is emotional. "The first three seconds matter most." What "Unreasonable Hospitality" Really Means Damien and Jessica share how they modeled much of their customer experience after luxury brands like: Ritz-Carlton Four Seasons High-end boutique hospitality brands Examples include: Greeting guests by name Escorting guests instead of pointing directions Personalized guest notes and preferences "My pleasure" instead of "No worries" Anticipating needs before guests ask Their belief: The little details create the lasting memories. The Oakwell Beer Spa Experience The Oakwell experience includes: A luxury taproom with local craft beer and wine Private spa suites Beer-infused hydrotherapy tubs Infrared saunas Rain showers Beer-infused skincare products Zero gravity massage experiences Room service inside spa suites The goal: Create a social wellness experience unlike anything else in America. Why Emotional Connection Creates Loyalty One of the most powerful insights from the episode: People don't return because of the product alone. They return because of: How they felt The personal connection The attention to detail The emotional memory attached to the experience Oakwell's members often describe it as: Their favorite date night A relationship reset A place to reconnect and unplug Building Systems That Scale Damien and Jessica explain how they intentionally built Oakwell from day one to scale. They focused heavily on: SOPs Training manuals Service standards Operational systems Replicable customer experiences This allowed them to eventually remove themselves from daily operations and focus on: Expansion Product development Franchising opportunities Long-term strategy "We started with the end in mind." Scaling Brick-and-Mortar Businesses Is Different Unlike digital businesses, physical businesses come with unique challenges: Staffing Real estate Build-outs Training consistency Customer experience management Team culture Damien explains why maintaining standards while scaling is one of the biggest ongoing bottlenecks in hospitality businesses. The Importance of Talent & Culture One of the strongest themes in the conversation: Your team is your business. Oakwell invests heavily into: Employee training Service standards Culture development Hiring intentionally Long-term team retention Because in hospitality: 👉 The team creates the experience. Advice for Real Estate Agents & Service Businesses Damien and Jessica share how real estate agents can apply hospitality principles immediately: Make every interaction personal Take detailed client notes Anticipate client needs Be proactive in communication Focus on emotional experience—not transactions Their message: People remember how you made them feel more than what you sold them. Running a Business as a Married Couple The couple also opens up about what it's really like building a business together. Their keys: Stay in your lane Define responsibilities clearly Respect each other's expertise Never show friction publicly Protect professionalism at all times Jessica handles: Operations HR Finance Compliance Damien leads: Marketing Sales Technology Brand strategy Together, they operate with clear ownership and aligned vision. Resources & Mentions Oakwell Beer Spa → Oakwell.com Oakwell Cosmetics Ritz-Carlton Service Standards Four Seasons Hospitality Principles John Kitchens Executive Coaching → JohnKitchens.coach Kitchen Table Mastermind Final Takeaway In a world where AI, automation, and convenience are everywhere… Human experience becomes the advantage. The businesses that win moving forward won't just offer better products. They'll create: Better emotions Better memories Better hospitality Better connection Because people may forget the transaction… But they never forget how you made them feel. "Hospitality is not transactional. It's emotional." – Damien Zouaoui Connect with Us: 7 Figure Audit: 7figurecall.com Instagram: @johnkitchenscoach LinkedIn: @johnkitchenscoach Facebook: @johnkitchenscoach If you enjoyed this episode, be sure to subscribe and leave a review. Stay tuned for more insights and strategies from the top minds. See you next time! 🔥
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