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Episode #231. Before We Automate Everything… Should We Fix Anything?, with Richard Staynings, Chief Security Strategist at Cylera

16 min · 8. juni 2026
episode Episode #231. Before We Automate Everything… Should We Fix Anything?, with Richard Staynings, Chief Security Strategist at Cylera cover

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Healthcare is entering an AI-powered future, but its security and resilience foundations may not be strong enough to support it. In this episode, Richard Staynings, Chief Security Strategist at Cylera, shares over 30 years of experience in healthcare cybersecurity, spanning roles in industry, academia, and advisory work focused on AI-driven security and risk assessment. He highlights that healthcare is entering a major transformation driven by AI and robotics, but warns that cybersecurity maturity is not keeping pace with technological advancement. While robotic systems are already operating in hospitals today, he emphasizes that true innovation must be paired with safety, resilience, and better infrastructure planning. He also expresses deep concern about the fragility of the healthcare system, noting financial strain, workforce burnout, and systemic underinvestment in both clinical and cyber risk. Tune in to learn what’s really happening behind the scenes of healthcare’s digital transformation and why the risks may be growing faster than the solutions! Resources: * Connect with and follow Richard Staynings on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardstaynings/]. * Follow Cylera on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/company/cylera/] and visit their website [https://cylera.com/]! * Check out the Digital Health Entrepreneurship book here [https://www.researchgate.net/publication/373863144_Digital_Health_Entrepreneurship_2nd_edition]! For more information and ways to increase risk awareness and safety, visit us at⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠www.censinet.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.censinet.com/]. Music by⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠David Cosgrove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidcosgrove/] an accomplished composer, musician, producer, and engineer. Listen to his latest project⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Del Piombo⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ [https://delpiombo.com/]. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices [https://megaphone.fm/adchoices]

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Episode #240. Is AI Finally Fixing the EHR?, with David Cohen, Chief Product and Technology Officer at Greenway Health

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episode Episode #239. One Attack. Thousands of Broken Workflows, with Greg Garcia artwork

Episode #239. One Attack. Thousands of Broken Workflows, with Greg Garcia

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episode Episode #238. Can AI Keep a Secret?, with James Pham, CEO and Co-founder of Opsin artwork

Episode #238. Can AI Keep a Secret?, with James Pham, CEO and Co-founder of Opsin

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episode Episode #237. The Printer That Could Shut Down a Hospital, with Jim La Roe, CEO of Symphion artwork

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episode Episode #236. Rural Healthcare Can’t Afford Bad AI Decisions, with Jim Roeder, CIO and VP of IT at Lakewood Health System artwork

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