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What If Everything You Know About Lead Generation Is Wrong? | Wes Towers

48 min · 15. maj 2026
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Most trades and construction brands are leaving money on the table with a sloppy online presence. In this episode, Matthew sits down with Wes Towers, founder of Uplift360 and a 20+ year marketing veteran who specializes in helping trades, builders, and construction brands grow through smarter digital strategy. They break down why the old sales funnel is dead and what to build instead, when to use SEO vs paid ads vs referrals, how to qualify leads before they hit your inbox, and why the safest "shortcut" in SEO is the one that gets you blacklisted by Google. Wes also shares why he runs all the sales himself, how to position against bigger competitors through niching, and what marketing looks like in the AI era when trust and human connection matter more than ever. If you run a trades business, lead a marketing team, or are trying to build something from your garage, this one is packed with practical moves you can use today. ---------------------------------------- KEY TAKEAWAYS * Income follows value — find where the need is greatest and bring more value than anyone else can. * The sales funnel is dead. Think in cycles: clients become referral partners, not endpoints. * Want more leads? Remove form fields. Want better leads? Add them. Move the dials based on what you need. * Overpromising in SEO leads to black hat shortcuts, which leads to Google penalties that can take a year to recover from. * Get yourself in rooms where you don't qualify. That's where the growth happens. ---------------------------------------- CHAPTERS * 00:00 - Introduction * 00:54 - Starting out in graphic design before websites were a thing * 02:36 - Why niching into construction was accidental but powerful * 03:49 - The risk-reward of starting your own company * 05:29 - Building the business around the lifestyle you want * 07:33 - Why construction brands mess up their online presence * 10:47 - SEO vs paid ads vs tenders: choosing the right channel * 13:33 - Why the sales funnel is dead and the cycle model wins * 17:11 - The form field trick to control lead quality and volume * 20:47 - Why Wes runs all the sales himself (and the black hat SEO trap) * 23:59 - Stacking your value offer for quick wins * 25:29 - How often Google crawls your site (and why size matters) * 26:04 - Niching to beat bigger competitors * 28:38 - Top SEO tips: content, information gain, and avoiding AI slop * 32:34 - How Uplift360 works with founders vs marketing teams * 35:04 - Patterns Wes sees across construction and industrial brands * 38:13 - The future of marketing: tech is devaluing, human insight is rising * 40:29 - If he started over today, would he go to university? * 41:45 - The power of getting into rooms where you don't qualify * 45:41 - Final takeaway: now is the time for the creative entrepreneur * 47:29 - Where to connect with Wes ---------------------------------------- ABOUT THE GUEST Wes Towers is the founder of Uplift360, a marketing agency specializing in trades, builders, and construction brands. With over 20 years of experience starting back in the early days of websites in the year 2000, Wes has built his agency around helping practical, hands-on founders translate their craft into compelling online presence. Uplift360 works with clients around the world, from founder-led businesses to in-house marketing teams at larger firms. ---------------------------------------- CONNECT https://uplift360.com.au [https://uplift360.com.au]

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