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Lessons from a CRO: Scaling a Tech Company in 2026 | Joe Zeibert (Mortgage Cadence)

24 min · 1. maj 2026
episode Lessons from a CRO: Scaling a Tech Company in 2026 | Joe Zeibert (Mortgage Cadence) cover

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In this episode, I sit down with Joe Zeibert, Chief Revenue Officer at Mortgage Cadence, to talk about what it takes to lead sales in mortgage technology at a time when the industry is under pressure, costs are rising, and lenders are being forced to rethink how they operate. Joe shares what he looks at first when stepping into a CRO role, why understanding a company’s history matters before making changes, and how Mortgage Cadence is thinking about redesigning LOS and workflow technology for the future.  We also get into why technology has failed to bring down the cost to originate, what AI could actually change in mortgage operations, and why vendors need a strong point of view instead of just building whatever customers ask for. Joe breaks down how thought leadership helps sales teams build credibility, what he learned from managing different types of performers, and why the best sales leaders need both broad industry understanding and deep expertise in a few key areas. TOPICS WE COVER *  What a CRO looks at in the first 90 days of a new leadership role  *  Why understanding company history matters before changing strategy  *  How mortgage technology has failed to lower the cost to originate  *  Why AI should redesign mortgage workflows instead of just automating old processes  *  How thought leadership helps sales teams build credibility and close deals faster  *  Why future sales leaders need both broad industry knowledge and deep expertise  ABOUT THE GUEST Joe Zeibert is the Chief Revenue Officer at Mortgage Cadence, where he is helping lead the company’s next chapter in mortgage technology, LOS modernization, and AI-driven workflow transformation. He brings more than 15 years of experience across mortgage, banking, capital markets, pricing, product strategy, analytics, and financial technology, with senior leadership roles at Anchor Loans, FICO, Nomis Solutions, Ally Financial, and Bank of America. His background spans mortgage and capital markets, home lending product strategy, enterprise capital management, pricing optimization, credit risk, analytics, and business intelligence, including helping launch Ally Home Loans and leading major data-driven pricing, product, and reporting initiatives across the financial services industry. LINKS Connect with me: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carter-armendarez/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/carter-armendarez/] Subscribe to the newsletter: https://www.techsaleswithcarter.com/newsletter/ [https://www.techsaleswithcarter.com/newsletter/] Learn more about Mortgage Cadence: https://www.mortgagecadence.com/ [https://www.mortgagecadence.com/]

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