The Copywriting Podcast with Fexingo: Sales Letters, Headlines, and Persuasive Writing

How One Word Made a Headline 3X More Persuasive

8 min · 18. juli 2026
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In this episode, Lucas and Luna break down a real-world A/B test from a mid-tier SaaS company that lifted headline click-through rates by 200 percent by changing just one word: swapping 'get' for 'discover.' They walk through the psychology — why passive verbs feel like a chore, why 'discover' taps into curiosity and self-directed learning — and trace it back to Claude Hopkins' 1920s book 'Scientific Advertising.' They also explore how this applies beyond headlines: to call-to-action buttons, subject lines, and even elevator pitches. The hosts discuss a 2018 study from the Journal of Consumer Psychology that found verbs implying control (like 'try') outperform passive verbs in low-commitment requests. And they share a simple editing trick: read your headline aloud and notice where you feel the emotional dip. If your eye skips a word, it's the wrong word. Concrete, actionable, and backed by data. #Copywriting #Headlines #Persuasion #Marketing #A-BTesting #SaaS #Psychology #ClaudeHopkins #ScientificAdvertising #VerbPower #CuriosityGap #CallToAction #ConversionRate #ContentMarketing #BusinessPodcast #FexingoBusiness #TheCopywritingPodcast #WordChoice Keep every episode free: buymeacoffee.com/fexingo [https://buymeacoffee.com/fexingo]

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