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331: Christopher Wren: Similar Roles, Different Realities

1 h 12 min · 12. maj 2026
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Christopher Wren: Similar Roles, Different RealitiesThe Shift from Service Delivery to System-Level Leadership *]:pointer-events-auto scroll-mt-[calc(var(--header-height)+min(200px,max(70px,20svh)))]" dir="auto" tabindex="-1" data-turn-id= "7f0aa905-d803-4481-9e44-c1a088a011df" data-testid= "conversation-turn-12" data-scroll-anchor="true" data-turn= "assistant"> Episode 331 of The HaltingWinter Podcast Brought to you by Tyler Technologies [https://tylertech.com/winter] Most people assume that city and county leadership are essentially the same role, just at different scales. They're not. In this episode, Christopher Wren, County Administrator of Newaygo County, Michigan, shares the critical distinction that changed how he leads: cities are built on service delivery, while counties operate through systems. Christopher walks through his journey from city management to the private sector and back into public service at the county level, offering a rare perspective on how leadership changes when the work becomes less about direct control and more about coordination, influence, and trust. We explore the realities most people never see: * Why local government remains one of the least understood professions and what that's costing us * The pressure, responsibility, and unpredictability behind everyday decisions * How early crises shaped his leadership approach and decision-making * The challenge of leading across elected officials, departments, and jurisdictions * Why presence, not position, is what builds trust inside an organization * How he navigated burnout and what it took to come back differently This conversation is a clear reminder: leadership in local government isn't about having all the answers. It's about building the systems and the people that make the work possible. Sponsored by: * Tyler Technologies – the nation's leading provider of software solutions designed specifically for the public sector and local government. Learn more at https://tylertech.com/winter [https://tylertech.com/winter] * The Municipal Leadership Development Circle (MLDC) is a global community for local government leaders who want ongoing support, practical insights, and a trusted peer network to help them lead without burning out. Learn more at https://haltingwinter.com/MLDC [https://haltingwinter.com/mldc/] Connect with Seth Winterhalter * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sethwinterhalter] * Website: https://www.HaltingWinter.com [https://www.haltingwinter.com/]

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