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What You Can't Unsee | Richard Burns

1 h 4 min · 24. apr. 2026
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In this episode, Richard shares what that kind of exposure actually does to you over time. From fatal scenes to the responsibility of reconstructing how and why they happened, this conversation goes beyond the job—it’s about the accumulation, the weight, and the things you don’t leave behind when the shift ends. We talk about the reality of trauma in first responders, the culture around mental health, and the gaps that still exist in support systems. Richard also speaks on his role in helping solve a 20-year-old double homicide and why moments like that don’t always bring the closure people expect. This isn’t just about service. It’s about what it turns into over time.

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