The Unmasked Therapist Podcast

Episode 25: Attachment, DBR, and Clinical Insight

21 min · 27. apr. 2026
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In this episode of the Unmasked Therapist Podcast, ⁠Kaitlyn Steel, LMFT [https://keystonetherapygroup.com/kaitlyn-steel/]⁠, continues her conversation with Michelle Vaughn, LPC—practice owner of Truth and Grace Counseling in Arizona—for part two of this two-part series. Picking up where they left off, Kaitlyn and Michelle dive deeper into Michelle’s clinical work, with a focus on trauma and the modalities that shape her approach. Michelle shares how working from an attachment-focused lens informs her understanding of clients, emphasizing the importance of looking beyond presenting symptoms to uncover the deeper roots of distress. The conversation explores the integration of EMDR and Michelle’s growing use of Deep Brain Reorienting (DBR), a newer trauma modality that works at a lower level of brain processing. Michelle explains how DBR can be especially helpful for clients with complex trauma or dissociative tendencies, offering a slower, more accessible way to process experiences without becoming overwhelmed. As the episode continues, the discussion shifts into the importance of consultation and community in clinical work. Kaitlyn and Michelle highlight how seeking support from other clinicians can expand perspective, improve client care, and introduce therapists to new approaches they may not have otherwise considered. The final portion of the conversation focuses on Michelle’s journey as a supervisor and private practice owner. She shares insights on building a practice rooted in autonomy, flexibility, and client-centered values, while also encouraging early career clinicians to think intentionally about their own needs, boundaries, and long-term sustainability in the field. Grounded in both clinical insight and real-world experience, this episode offers a thoughtful look at trauma work, professional growth, and what it means to show up authentically—not just for clients, but for yourself as a therapist. In this episode, we discuss:• Using an attachment-focused lens in trauma work• How EMDR and Deep Brain Reorienting (DBR) are used in practice• Working with complex trauma and dissociation• The importance of consultation and building a professional network• Lessons from supervision and transitioning into private practice• Balancing clinician needs with client care This is part two of a two-part conversation. Be sure to check out last week’s episode for the beginning of this discussion. Connect with us:Supervision: ⁠www.keystonetherapygroup.com/supervision/⁠Instagram: @TheUnmaskedTherapistEmail: ⁠⁠Supervision@KeystoneTherapyGroup.com⁠⁠ If this episode resonated with you, leave a five-star review and subscribe for more conversations about authentic, grounded, human-centered therapy. Disclaimer:This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for clinical supervision. All information shared represents our own opinions and should not be taken as legal or clinical direction. #TheUnmaskedTherapist #UnmaskedTherapist #TherapistPodcast #MentalHealthPodcast #TherapistConversations

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Episode 36: Consultation Calls That Build Trust

In this episode of The Unmasked Therapist Podcast, Clinical Supervisors ⁠⁠⁠⁠Kim Rippy, LPC [https://keystonetherapygroup.com/kim-rippy/]⁠⁠⁠⁠, and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Kaitlyn Steel, LMFT [https://keystonetherapygroup.com/kaitlyn-steel/]⁠⁠⁠⁠, continue their conversation about consultation calls by exploring why authenticity is one of the most important factors in creating meaningful client connections. Building on last week's discussion of consultation structure and purpose, they examine how consultation calls serve as a therapist's first opportunity to demonstrate what working together will actually feel like. Kim and Kaitlyn discuss the growing shift toward clients being more intentional and selective when choosing a therapist, highlighting how consultation calls have become an important space for assessing relational fit. They explore why authenticity helps establish trust, creates safety, and allows both therapist and client to determine whether the therapeutic relationship is a good match. Through personal stories and examples from their own practices, they reflect on the risks of masking, over-performing, or presenting a version of yourself that clients won't encounter once therapy begins. Throughout the conversation, they emphasize that consultation calls are not simply a sales pitch—they are an opportunity to model transparency, consistency, and genuine human connection. By showing up authentically from the very first interaction, therapists can create a foundation of trust that supports deeper therapeutic work moving forward. In this episode, we discuss: • Why authenticity matters during consultation calls • How consultation calls set the tone for the therapeutic relationship • The growing trend of clients interviewing multiple therapists before choosing one • Avoiding the "bait and switch" effect of showing up differently after intake • How authenticity builds trust, safety, and confidence for clients • The impact of masking and over-performing on therapist effectiveness • Helping clients determine whether you are the right fit for their needs • Why consultation calls are an important part of informed decision-making • Creating consistency between your online presence and your in-session approach • Using authenticity to strengthen rapport from the very first interaction Connect with us: Supervision: ⁠⁠www.keystonetherapygroup.com/supervision/⁠⁠ Instagram: @TheUnmaskedTherapist Email: ⁠⁠⁠⁠Supervision@KeystoneTherapyGroup.com [Supervision@KeystoneTherapyGroup.com]⁠⁠⁠⁠ If this episode resonated with you, leave a five-star review and subscribe for more conversations about authentic, grounded, human-centered therapy. Disclaimer: This podcast is for educational purposes only and is not a substitute for clinical supervision. All information shared represents our own opinions and should not be taken as legal or clinical direction. #TheUnmaskedTherapist #UnmaskedTherapist #TherapistPodcast #MentalHealthPodcast #ClinicalSupervision #ConsultationCalls #Authenticity #PersonOfTheTherapist #TherapeuticRelationship #TherapistIdentity #PrivatePractice #ClientConnection #TherapistGrowth #TherapyPractice #HumanCenteredTherapy

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