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Why Nancy Guthrie's Ransom Hoaxer Barely Got Punished

24 min · 13. juli 2026
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Nancy Guthrie is still missing six months later, but a separate criminal case connected to her disappearance just came to an end. A California man pleaded guilty to sending the Guthrie family fake bitcoin ransom demands while the active search for her was still underway.  The reason people are angry is the outcome. His charge was pled down to harassment, capped at two years in the federal system, and he ultimately received five years of probation, with both counts running together instead of being stacked. Retired FBI special agent Jennifer Coffindaffer called it a travesty, warning the sentence could set a precedent that emboldens the wave of copycat notes still coming in — a group being called the TMZ Twelve, which the FBI has reportedly suggested are likely not authentic.  Two separate notes are being treated very differently by investigators. One demanded four million dollars, threatened to raise it to six million, and warned Nancy would be killed. The other is an apology letter, sent only to local television stations, expressing remorse and calling her death an accident. Both are reportedly linked to the same IP address, which investigators consider one of the strongest leads they have.  There's also the mystery of Porch Guy, someone connected to the case who hasn't been publicly identified or arrested, despite legal tools used successfully in other investigations that could help track him down faster.  We break down the sentence, the notes, and where this investigation actually stands.  New episode is up now — link below.  Social Links & Legal Footer  Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ [https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/]  Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1]  Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ [https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/]  Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod [https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod]  X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod [https://x.com/TrueCrimePod]  This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice.  Hashtags  #NancyGuthrie #RansomHoax #TrueCrimeToday #TMZTwelve #Bitcoin #FBIInvestigation #TulsaOklahoma #PorchGuy #TrueCrimePodcast #UnsolvedMystery

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