Another Education Is Possible

Education as Play (Haeny Yoon and Nathan Holbert of Pop and Play)

56 min · 16. maalis 2026
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In this episode, we are joined by Dr. Haeny Yoon and Dr. Nathan Holbert, hosts of the podcast Pop and Play. Host Bosco engages in a conversation about how education can and cannot be play both in and out of school. Is play present in school even if it is not apparent? What do cooking recipes have to do with play in schools? Additionally, Haeny and Nathan discuss the nuances of play, when play is both a “good” and “bad” experience, though both play important roles in experiential learning.

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