barn logic

Geoffrey Hesslink and positive vs negative reinforcement

This episode dives into horse training, welfare, and the blurry line between correction and punishment. Using recent controversies as a starting point, mother and daughter unpack positive vs. negative reinforcement, fear-based riding, learned helplessness, and the responsibility trainers, owners, and riders have to advocate for horses — both in and out of the ring.

barn logic

In this episode, mother and daughter discuss the things only horse people will understand, from “barn time” and footing to water buckets and personal hygiene. Welcome to the world of niche horse people behavior.

performance anxiety

In this episode, mother and daughter discuss performance anxiety in the horse world, from show ring nerves to the pressure riders put on themselves. They talk through confidence, overthinking, competition, and the mental side of riding, while sharing personal experiences and perspectives from both junior and professional life in the sport.

can you trust your vet

In this episode, mother and daughter discuss misinformation in the horse world, from viral trends to veterinary advice. They cover how to fact-check research, what makes a source credible, trust and how to navigate differing professional opinions.

married to a horse girl

In this special episode, Katie is joined by her husband Henry while Barb is away for the week. Henry answers a mix of horse related questions, from colors and disciplines to riding terms, and shares early horse memories and favorite trips. The episode wraps with Henry's take on life with a horse girl.