Fintech Takes

Not Fintech Investment Advice: Primitive, Exponent, Prime Intellect, Coverd

Welcome back to Not Fintech Investment Advice, where Simon Taylor and I do what we do best: talk about companies we're absolutely not giving investment advice on. First up is Primitive, an agent control plane for large financial institutions trying to figure out what to do with AI agents. We get into why regulated institutions need infrastructure that sits above any one model provider, token budgets, and why AI labs deploying engineers into financial institutions should be treated less like a gift and more like a Trojan horse. Next is Exponent, a finance platform for franchisees. Franchises are one of the most reliable (and overlooked) paths to wealth building. We talk about why franchisees are hard to underwrite, how SBA lending fits in, and why a platform that helps both the borrower and lender could become the financial operating system for multi-location franchise entrepreneurs. Then there's Prime Intellect, which helps companies train, deploy, evaluate, and improve their own models. This leads us into one of our favorite nerd corridors: what happens when you train transformer models on financial events instead of language? Financial data may have its own syntax, and the models that understand it may be far more useful than the ones that chat well. We close with Covered, a gamified credit card that uses variable rewards and sweepstakes to make cash back feel like a chance to win big. Customer acquisition is brutal, top-of-wallet even harder, and in a casino economy, nudging people toward something marginally better is at least honest about the stakes. Plus, the most important question in the episode: is Anna or Elsa the real protagonist of Frozen? --- This episode is brought to you by Ocrolus.  Every small business is different — but most lenders only see a snapshot. Ocrolus gives SMB lenders the cash flow analytics, borrower behavior and peer context to fund more, faster, with confidence. Visit https://www.ocrolus.com/ [https://www.ocrolus.com/] for more.  --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] Follow Simon: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sytaylor/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/sytaylor/] Substack: https://sytaylor.substack.com [https://sytaylor.substack.com] --- Companies featured: https://primitive.com/ [https://primitive.com/] https://exponentfi.com/ [https://exponentfi.com/] https://www.primeintellect.ai/ [https://www.primeintellect.ai/] https://www.coverd.us/ [https://www.coverd.us/]

Fintech Takes x TruStage presents Lending, Unbundled Ep 1: Financial Accessibility and Inclusion

Welcome to Lending, Unbundled, a new series from Fintech Takes, sponsored by our friends at TruStage. The series traces how consumer lending went from a single institution that handled everything to a modular value chain of specialized providers, each owning one piece of the loan, and asks what lending, unbundled, has cost the industry along the way. In Episode 1, I sit down with my co-host for the series, Bjoern Nordmann [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/] (VP of New Market Development at TruStage), and special guest Rodney Hood [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodneyhood1/], former NCUA Chairman and Acting Comptroller of the Currency, to talk about why a regulatory framework built for vertically integrated lenders no longer matches an industry where origination, underwriting, funding, and servicing rarely sit under one roof. For most borrowers, that fragmentation shows up as a simple question: who do you call when something goes wrong?  Rodney traces the shift to two forces: policy, including the compliance burden that followed Dodd-Frank, and specialization (as fintech entrants and consumer expectations for speed reshaped what lenders had to offer). Rodney also makes the case that AI can help correct for bias baked into older credit models and catch hardship before it becomes delinquency. As Rodney puts it: risk doesn't disappear because it moves, it simply changes addresses. — This episode is brought to you by TruStage. TruStage is a financially strong insurance and financial services provider, built on the philosophy of people helping people, meeting the needs of middle-market consumers and the businesses that serve them since day one.  We believe a brighter financial future should be accessible to everyone, and our products and solutions help people confidently make financial decisions that work for them at every stage of life. Visit https://trustage.com [https://trustage.com/] for more information. --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] --- Follow Bjoern: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/bjoernnordmann/] Follow Rodney: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodneyhood1/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rodneyhood1/]

Fintech Recap: Failures, Prediction Markets, & Debanking

Welcome back to Fintech Recap. I'm Alex Johnson, joined as always by my partner in recapping, Jason Mikula. We start with Parker Card, an SMB charge card startup that abruptly shut down in early May. The failure itself wasn't the story. The SVB lawsuit against issuing partner Patriot Bank is, and what it reveals about $21 million in receivables that fell into contested no-man's-land when Parker's acquisition talks collapsed. If Synapse taught us anything, we apparently didn't learn it. Then prediction markets, a topic Jason forced me to cover. Fake Polymarket videos, Zuckerberg's play-money prediction app called Arena, and the CFTC’s proposed rule, which would give the industry nearly everything it wants (while drawing the line at contracts on assassination). We examine a specific loophole in that last point very carefully … From there, we get into debanking. A cluster of recent developments (from the DOJ investigating big banks and reputation risk being formally eliminated as a supervision tool to Lead Bank CEO Jackie Reses calling the whole narrative an absolute crock of shit) gave us enough to work with. Jason and I have both written extensively on this topic, and we land somewhere that might surprise some listeners. Finally, in our Can't Let It Gos: incomplete charter applications and a credit card pulled directly from my fintech nightmares. --- This episode is brought to you by Ocrolus.  Every small business is different — but most lenders only see a snapshot. Ocrolus gives SMB lenders the cash flow analytics, borrower behavior and peer context to fund more, faster, with confidence. Visit https://www.ocrolus.com/ [https://www.ocrolus.com/] for more. Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/]  And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Jason: Newsletter: https://fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/ [https://fintechbusinessweekly.substack.com/] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmikula/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmikula/]   Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson]

The End of the Checklist Era

Welcome back to the Fintech Takes podcast. I'm Alex Johnson, joined by Andrew DiMattina [https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-dimattina-4a3b0414/], Product Architect at Persona (and expert in all things fraud and compliance, especially AML compliance), to explore the changing state of compliance in the U.S. and around the globe. The expectation going into this administration was deregulation. What banks and fintech companies have discovered over the last 18 months is that deregulation isn't less risk; it's a transfer of risk. The checklist era was expensive but legible. This era is cheaper on paper and harder in practice, especially when it comes to fraud and compliance.  When rules stop telling you exactly what to do, "compliance" collapses back into its actual substance: Can you really tell who your customer is and stop the bad ones? We get into: * Why most organizations are staying the course on compliance programs even as the federal floor recedes * What the OCC's consent order against Community Federal Savings Bank reveals about when a fintech program grows faster than its controls * Why getting a charter doesn't mean your risk profile matches your size * What "know your agent" actually means when a bot might be transacting on behalf of a legitimate customer (and why it adds a new question to KYC) --- This episode is brought to you by Persona.  The best fintechs expand what's possible for users. Persona does that for fraud prevention. Their recently upgraded link analysis tool surfaces connections in real time, letting you spot deepfakes, identity farms, and fraud rings during onboarding and investigations.  They just published their Fraud Leader's Guide to Link Analysis, a practical look at today’s top risk signals, automating decisions, and scaling link analysis for fraud prevention. Download it now: http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud [http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud]  --- Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Alex:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson] Follow Andrew: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-dimattina-4a3b0414/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrew-dimattina-4a3b0414/]

B2B Marketing Sucks & Can Be Better

Welcome back to Fintech Takes. I'm Alex Johnson, and today's episode is a little different. Before I wrote a newsletter for a living, I spent the beginning of my career working in B2B marketing in fintech and financial services. So this episode is built around the provocation that B2B marketing sucks, but it doesn't have to.  First up, Cokie Hasiotis (Head of Vertical Marketing at Socure and author of the For the Plot [https://cokiehasiotis.substack.com/] newsletter) and Julie VerHage Greenberg (founder of Quinnovation and formerly a co-founder and writer of Fintech Today and reporter at Bloomberg) join me to diagnose B2B marketing's boring problem. It’s an industry where 80% of decisions are made emotionally, and yet it runs on copy that makes you feel nothing. We get into why the head of content is a job designed to fail, and why founders are so bad at telling their own stories. Then, Jessica Kendall (Head of Content and Communications at Spinwheel) joins me to talk about messaging. We also get into the two AI problems every marketing team now has to own (tune in to find out!). And last but not least, Adam Ryan (co-founder and CEO of Workweek) joins me to talk about why B2B marketers can rarely prove the value of decisions they know were right. Blame the hidden sales cycle, and the tenure problem (the average executive B2B marketer lasts 18 months, often not even a full sales cycle). We dig into: * What would B2B marketing look like if it remembered that buyers are humans? * Can you measure a changed mind? * If AI can produce infinite “good enough” content, what's left that buyers will trust? And so much more! Tune in for a curious tour through the discipline that decides what our entire industry reads, watches, and believes. As discussed, learn more about the Workweek Partner Platform: https://advertising.workweek.com/insights/future-of-b2b-runs-on-trust/ [https://advertising.workweek.com/insights/future-of-b2b-runs-on-trust/] Apply for Workweek Upfronts in Austin (August 26 & 27) here: https://workweekupfronts.com/ [https://workweekupfronts.com/] This episode is brought to you by Persona.  The best fintechs expand what's possible for users. Persona does that for fraud prevention. Their recently upgraded link analysis tool surfaces connections in real time, letting you spot deepfakes, identity farms, and fraud rings during onboarding and investigations.  They just published their Fraud Leader's Guide to Link Analysis, a practical look at today’s top risk signals, automating decisions, and scaling link analysis for fraud prevention. Download it now: http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud [http://withpersona.com/ftt-fraud]  Sign up for Alex’s Fintech Takes newsletter for the latest insightful analysis on fintech trends, along with a heaping pile of pop culture references and copious footnotes. Every Monday and Thursday: https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/ [https://workweek.com/brand/fintech-takes/] And for more exclusive insider content, don’t forget to check out my YouTube page [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos]. Follow Cokie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cokie-hasiotis-9b666363/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/cokie-hasiotis-9b666363/]  Newsletter: For The Plot [https://cokiehasiotis.substack.com/about] at https://cokiehasiotis.substack.com/ [https://cokiehasiotis.substack.com/]  Follow Julie: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-verhage-greenberg-1748801b/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/julie-verhage-greenberg-1748801b/] Follow Jessica: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesslkendall/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/jesslkendall/]  Follow Adam: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamtryan/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamtryan/]  Follow Alex Johnson:  YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJgfH47QEwbQmkQlz1V9rQA/videos] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexhjohnson] X: https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson [https://www.twitter.com/AlexH_Johnson]