Episode 12 - More Than Football: Vision, Leadership & Purpose with Tommy Jones

Episode 12 - More Than Football: Vision, Leadership & Purpose with Tommy Jones

In Episode 12 of He Said, Son Said, Matt sits down with Tommy Jones—former University of Michigan football player, mentor, coach, and founder of Growth4Life—for a conversation that starts with football but quickly becomes about something much bigger. Tommy shares the journey that shaped his life, from relentlessly pursuing his dream of playing at Michigan to dedicating his career to helping young people become stronger leaders, teammates, and adults. Together they explore: • Why vision matters before success ever arrives • The resilience required to overcome adversity • Leadership lessons that apply far beyond sports • The role parents and coaches play in shaping character • Why attitude and effort remain the two things we can always control One quote from the conversation captures the entire episode: "The dream is a seed. Then you decide if it's worthy enough to pursue." Whether you're an athlete, coach, parent, leader, or someone chasing a dream of your own, this conversation will challenge you to think differently about success—and about the person you're becoming. Sports are the backdrop. Life is the conversation. 🎙️ New episodes every week.

Episode 11 - Father's Day Special

Father's Day gave us a reason to hit pause and reflect on something bigger than scores, standings, and championships. In this special episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash talk about the sports memories that shaped their relationship—from meeting sports heroes and attending unforgettable games to the lessons learned through winning, losing, and growing up together. They discuss: * Their favorite sports memories together * What losing has taught them about life * The responsibilities that come with growing up * The challenges and excitement of becoming an adult * Traditions they hope to keep for years to come * What they appreciate most about each other It's a conversation about family, perspective, and the bond that's been built through sports over the years. Because sometimes sports start the conversation, but family becomes the real story.

Episode 10 - Looking Back, Looking Ahead

After a two-month hiatus and a quick turnaround from Episode 9, Matt and Nash are back behind the mic for a father-son catch-up session. The duo reflects on the last 90 days, including Matt's knee replacement recovery, Nash's journey through basketball, driving, and finding joy in the things that matter most. They also share key takeaways from their recent conversation with Brayleigh and Christiaan, including powerful lessons about resilience, parenting, and learning from mistakes. Along the way, they discuss summer goals, dream podcast guests, favorite sports memories, and wrap things up with a lightning round featuring everything from Bojangles vs. Chick-fil-A to LeBron vs. Jordan. In this episode: * Matt's knee replacement recovery and lessons in patience * Nash on basketball, driving, and finding joy * Reflections on Episode 9 with Brayleigh and Christiaan * Summer goals and what's ahead for the podcast * Favorite sports memories and dream guests * A fun lightning round of sports and life hot takes Sometimes the best conversations happen when it's just a dad and his son sitting behind a microphone. 🎙️ He Said, Son Said — Two generations. One mic. Way too many opinions.

Episode 9 - Play the Next Play

After a two-month hiatus, He Said, Son Said is back with one of our favorite conversations yet. This week, we sit down with 8th-grade multi-sport athlete Brayleigh and her dad, Christiaan, to talk about sports, faith, leadership, pressure, and the lessons that shape young athletes both on and off the field. Brayleigh shares her journey from basketball manager to team captain, how she balances basketball, soccer, volleyball, and swimming, and why faith has become such an important part of her athletic journey. She opens up about dealing with nerves, overcoming mistakes, leading teammates, and the pressure that comes with wanting to perform at a high level. One lesson stands out throughout the episode: "You can't change this play, but you can change the next play." That simple piece of advice becomes the foundation for a conversation about resilience, growth, confidence, and learning how to move forward when things don't go your way. Christiaan shares what it's like watching his daughter evolve into a leader, why character matters more than trophies, and how parents can support their kids without trying to live through their athletic accomplishments. Whether you're a parent, coach, athlete, or sports fan, this episode offers valuable insights on leadership, faith, teamwork, and the lifelong lessons sports can teach us. IN THIS EPISODE: 🏀 Basketball, soccer, volleyball, and multi-sport athletes 🙏 Faith and pregame routines 💪 Building resilience after mistakes 👨‍👧 Parent-athlete relationships 📣 Leadership and communication 🏆 Team culture and championship moments ⚡ Lightning Round He Said, Son Said is a father-and-son podcast featuring conversations with dads and their kids about sports, family, and everything in between. Through candid interviews, stories, and a little friendly banter, we explore the moments that help shape relationships across generations. 🎙️ Follow us on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, and YouTube. 📱 Follow us on Instagram: @hesaidsonsaid

Episode 8 - Different Paths Same Fairway

In this episode of He Said, Son Said, Matt and Nash are joined by George and William Linney for a conversation centered around growth, discipline, and the unique bond between a father and son through sports. William shares his journey of becoming a scratch golfer during COVID—what started as extra time turned into a relentless pursuit of improvement. From daily routines to breakthrough moments, he walks through what it really takes to elevate your game. George provides the other side of the story—what it’s like to watch your child push toward excellence, how to support without overwhelming, and how their relationship has evolved along the way. This episode covers: * The path from multi-sport athlete to focused competitor * The unseen work behind becoming elite * Handling failure, pressure, and expectations * Parenting through competitive sports * How sports can deepen family relationships Plus, a fun lightning round to close things out. Whether you're an athlete, parent, or sports fan, this episode is about more than golf—it’s about mindset, growth, and connection.