Before You Say I Do What You Really Need to Know

Before You Say I Do What You Really Need to Know

Before the vows, before the big day, before everything becomes official there are conversations that matter more than anything else. In this episode of the Making Love podcast, we dive into what couples should really be thinking about before getting married and why so many miss the signs that could save them from future heartache. This is not about the fairytale version of love. It is about the real work that builds a lasting marriage. From learning how to truly listen instead of just waiting to respond, to recognizing how family dynamics shape relationship patterns, this conversation pulls back the curtain on what actually prepares couples for life together. We also get into the topics most people avoid Credit and finances Communication habits Sex and expectations Family history and relationship patterns Because the truth is, what you do not talk about before marriage will eventually show up after it. With honesty and humor, we share personal stories from our own relationship including the early days of learning to be fully seen imperfections and all and why transparency is not optional if you want something real. This episode is a reminder that marriage is not built on perfect moments. It is built on honesty, growth, and the willingness to show up fully. Because when love is real, it is not just about saying I do. It is about doing the work that comes after. Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades. They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grandbabies (one on the way) later, they're still each other's favorite people. Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.  Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation. On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day. They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together. www.themakinglovepodcast.com [https://themakinglovepodcast.com/]

Learning How to Fight Right Without Hurting Each Other

Welcome back to Making Love the podcast where we keep it real about relationships, marriage, and everything in between. Today’s conversation is one that so many of you have asked for again and again. Learning how to fight right. Because the truth is, the goal in marriage is not to fight. But if you do not know how to disagree, small things turn into big things fast. In this episode, we open up about something that might surprise you. For a long time, we did not argue at all. Not because everything was perfect, but because we were avoiding conflict altogether. On the outside, it probably looked peaceful. But underneath, we were quietly building pressure. We talk honestly about where that came from. For him, it was growing up in a home where he watched a marriage fall apart up close and personal. That experience shaped a deep desire to avoid anything that even felt like conflict. For her, it was the opposite in a different way. There was no visible conflict growing up, but there also was not real communication. No deep conversations. No modeling of how to work through issues. So avoiding hard conversations felt normal. And then there is the layer many people carry but do not always talk about. Past relationships. Pain. Trauma. Fear of what could happen if you say the wrong thing. We get real about how past experiences, including abuse, can quietly shape how you show up in your current marriage. How fear can keep you silent. And how silence, over time, can create distance instead of peace. At some point, everything shifted. We realized that avoiding conflict was not protecting our marriage. It was hurting it. Because what you do not deal with does not disappear. It builds. So we had to learn a new way. In this episode, we talk about what actually helped us move from avoidance to healthy communication. Letting go of fear and understanding the commitment we made to each other Creating a safe space where honesty does not lead to rejection Giving each other grace especially when past wounds show up in present moments Learning not to bring up old, already forgiven issues during new conversations Choosing to love each other well even in the middle of hard moments We also talk about something that does not get said enough. You cannot treat people at work better than the person you come home to. If you are giving patience, grace, and understanding to everyone else but bringing frustration into your home, something has to shift. Your marriage deserves the best of you. Not what is left over. We bring you honest, healing, and deeply relatable for anyone who has ever struggled with communication, avoided hard conversations, or wondered how to handle conflict without damaging the relationship. Because learning how to fight right is really about learning how to love better. And that changes everything. Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades. They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grandbabies (one on the way) later, they're still each other's favorite people. Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.  Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation. On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day. They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together. www.themakinglovepodcast.com [https://themakinglovepodcast.com/]

The Silent Lessons of Love Growing Up and Growing Together

Welcome back to the Making Love podcast, where we believe that when love is made with intention, it does not just last, it grows deeper and more meaningful every single day. In this warm and heartfelt episode, we explore a powerful idea that often goes unnoticed. Our first experience with love did not begin in romance. It began at home. Before we ever chose a partner, before we understood connection, we were shaped by the love we witnessed from the people who raised us. We open up about our own stories with honesty and vulnerability. The beauty we saw. The things we longed for. The gaps that quietly shaped our desires. And the unexpected places we found better examples of love, from grandparents to siblings who showed us what partnership, friendship, and genuine connection could look like. This conversation is not about blame. It is about awareness. Because whether we realize it or not, children are always watching. They are learning what love looks like in the everyday moments. How we speak to each other. How we handle distance or closeness. How we show up as partners. We also reflect on the full circle moments as parents ourselves. Hearing your child say, if I cannot have a love like yours, I do not want anything at all, is both humbling and deeply meaningful. It reminds us that the way we love each other becomes a living example for the next generation. Listen closely, we talk about How early family experiences shape relationship expectations The difference between loyalty, partnership, and true connection Why some people learn what they want and others learn what they do not want How healing and new examples can redefine your vision of love What it means to model a relationship your children can feel and not just see This is a conversation filled with reflection, grace, and truth. A reminder that love is not just something we find. It is something we learn, unlearn, and choose again. If this episode speaks to you, share it with someone you love. Because the way we understand love can change everything about the way we live it. Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades. They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grandbabies (one on the way) later, they're still each other's favorite people. Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.  Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation. On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day. They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together. www.themakinglovepodcast.com [https://themakinglovepodcast.com/]

When You Know, You Know: Faith, Fast Love, and Finding The One

Welcome to the very first episode of the Making Love Podcast with Tish and Pastor Roy, where love gets real, faith leads the way, and marriage becomes something you can truly enjoy. In this episode, Tish and Pastor Roy take you back to where it all began. What started as a simple introduction at a church singles barbecue quickly turned into something neither of them expected. From first impressions that were less than perfect to a connection that couldn’t be ignored, their story is anything but ordinary. They open up about their whirlwind journey, meeting, getting engaged within weeks, and married just months later. While they don’t recommend following their exact timeline, they share the deeper truth behind it all: faith, clarity, and a strong sense of purpose. Tish also shares a powerful moment of personal conviction after coming out of a difficult past relationship, including the letter she wrote describing exactly what she wanted in a husband and how Pastor Roy checked every box. Together, they reflect on the conversations, confirmations, and spiritual alignment that made it clear they were meant to build a life together. This episode is filled with laughter, honesty, and real perspective on love, timing, and trusting God’s plan—even when it doesn’t look like everyone else’s. If you’re married, dating, healing, or simply believing for something real, this conversation will challenge what you think you know about love and remind you that when it’s right, it’s undeniable. Because when love is made with intention, faith, and friendship, it doesn’t just last, it gets better every day. Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades. They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grandbabies (one on the way) later, they're still each other's favorite people. Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.  Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation. On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day. They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together. www.themakinglovepodcast.com [https://themakinglovepodcast.com/]

Welcome to the Making Love Podcast with Tish and Pastor Roy

Welcome to the Making Love Podcast with Tish and Pastor Roy. This is where love gets real, faith leads the way, and marriage becomes something you actually enjoy. We’re talking laughter, connection, and the kind of conversations that challenge what you thought you knew while giving you practical, faith-filled ways to make something that lasts. Whether you’re married, dating, or just curious, this is your time to grow together, have fun, and create a relationship rooted in friendship, purpose, and connection. Because when love is MADE, it doesn’t just last, it gets better every day. Tish and Pastor Roy Times have been making love and making it last for more than three decades. They met at Joy Center in El Paso, Texas, dated for two whirlwind weeks, got engaged, and married four months later. Thirty-plus years, three grown sons, and two-and-a-half grandbabies (one on the way) later, they're still each other's favorite people. Roy serves as the local pastor of Joy Center Phoenix, shepherding his community with the same steadiness he brought to a 13-year career as a government contractor and many years in sales and technology.  Tish is an ordained minister of nearly 20 years and the CEO of Tish Times Sales Agency, where she helps high-achieving women build companies that scale beyond them. Together they bring the head and the heart strategy and Scripture, candor and compassion to every conversation. On the Making Love Podcast, Tish and Roy pull back the curtain on what it really takes to build a marriage rooted in friendship, faith, and purpose. They're not interested in the filtered, picture-perfect version. They're here for the real thing the laughter, the growth, the hard conversations, and the practical, faith-filled tools that help love get better every day. They live in Phoenix, Arizona, where you'll most likely find them loving Jesus, chasing good coffee, and out on a hiking trail together. www.themakinglovepodcast.com [https://themakinglovepodcast.com/]