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#101 Dr Kathy O’Sullivan: Why numeracy is a life skill everyone needs beyond the maths classroom

49 min · 22. kesä 2026
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Numeracy may be a cross-curriculum priority in youreducation system — but what does that actually mean for teachers who don’t teach maths? Dr Kathy O’Sullivan from the University of Galway in Ireland argues that when schools expect every teacher to support numeracy, most teachers are effectively teaching it out of field. In this conversation, she explains why numeracy is often misunderstood as ‘basic maths’, why tick-box approaches fail, and how teachers can start recognising numeracy opportunities within their own subjects. This ep also explores what systems can do better — from sustained professional learning to stronger preparation in initial teacher education. Links: Dr Kathy O’Sullivan ·       https://research.universityofgalway.ie/en/persons/kathy-osullivan/ [https://research.universityofgalway.ie/en/persons/kathy-osullivan/] ·       ORCID profile: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8078-3206 [https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8078-3206] Numeracy research and frameworks -      The "N" Framework: A Teacher KnowledgeFramework for Numeracy across the Curriculum https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/numeracy/vol18/iss2/art2/ [https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/numeracy/vol18/iss2/art2/]-      Numeracy in the 21st Century – model by MerrilynGoos and colleagues https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-model-for-numeracy-in-the-21-st-century-Goos-Geiger-Dole-2014_fig1_317731661 -      Numeracy across the Curriculum book byAustralian Teacher Educators https://www.routledge.com/Numeracy-Across-the-Curriculum-Research-based-strategies-for-enhancing-teaching-and-learning/Goos-Geiger-Dole-Forgasz-Bennison/p/book/9781760297886 [https://www.routledge.com/Numeracy-Across-the-Curriculum-Research-based-strategies-for-enhancing-teaching-and-learning/Goos-Geiger-Dole-Forgasz-Bennison/p/book/9781760297886] Numeracy resources and teaching tools ·       Gapminder data visualisation tools https://www.gapminder.org [https://www.gapminder.org/] ·       Nrich maths tasks https://nrich.maths.org [https://nrich.maths.org/] ·       Peter Liljedahl numeracy-rich tasks / thinking classrooms resources https://buildingthinkingclassrooms.com [https://buildingthinkingclassrooms.com/]   Australian numeracy examples ·       Victorian Academy of Teaching and Leadership https://www.academy.vic.gov.au [https://www.academy.vic.gov.au/] ·       Australian Department of Education numeracy resources (examples of numeracy across curriculum materials) https://www.education.gov.au/australian-curriculum/support-literacy-and-numeracy

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jakson #101 Dr Kathy O’Sullivan: Why numeracy is a life skill everyone needs beyond the maths classroom kansikuva

#101 Dr Kathy O’Sullivan: Why numeracy is a life skill everyone needs beyond the maths classroom

Numeracy may be a cross-curriculum priority in youreducation system — but what does that actually mean for teachers who don’t teach maths? Dr Kathy O’Sullivan from the University of Galway in Ireland argues that when schools expect every teacher to support numeracy, most teachers are effectively teaching it out of field. In this conversation, she explains why numeracy is often misunderstood as ‘basic maths’, why tick-box approaches fail, and how teachers can start recognising numeracy opportunities within their own subjects. This ep also explores what systems can do better — from sustained professional learning to stronger preparation in initial teacher education. Links: Dr Kathy O’Sullivan ·       https://research.universityofgalway.ie/en/persons/kathy-osullivan/ [https://research.universityofgalway.ie/en/persons/kathy-osullivan/] ·       ORCID profile: https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8078-3206 [https://orcid.org/0000-0002-8078-3206] Numeracy research and frameworks -      The "N" Framework: A Teacher KnowledgeFramework for Numeracy across the Curriculum https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/numeracy/vol18/iss2/art2/ [https://digitalcommons.usf.edu/numeracy/vol18/iss2/art2/]-      Numeracy in the 21st Century – model by MerrilynGoos and colleagues https://www.researchgate.net/figure/A-model-for-numeracy-in-the-21-st-century-Goos-Geiger-Dole-2014_fig1_317731661 -      Numeracy across the Curriculum book byAustralian Teacher Educators https://www.routledge.com/Numeracy-Across-the-Curriculum-Research-based-strategies-for-enhancing-teaching-and-learning/Goos-Geiger-Dole-Forgasz-Bennison/p/book/9781760297886 [https://www.routledge.com/Numeracy-Across-the-Curriculum-Research-based-strategies-for-enhancing-teaching-and-learning/Goos-Geiger-Dole-Forgasz-Bennison/p/book/9781760297886] Numeracy resources and teaching tools ·       Gapminder data visualisation tools https://www.gapminder.org [https://www.gapminder.org/] ·       Nrich maths tasks https://nrich.maths.org [https://nrich.maths.org/] ·       Peter Liljedahl numeracy-rich tasks / thinking classrooms resources https://buildingthinkingclassrooms.com [https://buildingthinkingclassrooms.com/]   Australian numeracy examples ·       Victorian Academy of Teaching and Leadership https://www.academy.vic.gov.au [https://www.academy.vic.gov.au/] ·       Australian Department of Education numeracy resources (examples of numeracy across curriculum materials) https://www.education.gov.au/australian-curriculum/support-literacy-and-numeracy

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