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Episode 5: Who's Driving the Bus?

37 min · 19. kesä 2026
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Coinbase did it. So did Snap, Dorsey, and a New York HR leader who fired every manager by text. Theresa Fesinstine and Anthony Onesto take on the "kill the managers" trend sweeping AI-era companies, and ask the question nobody seems to: if the managers are gone, who's actually steering? The pitch is that everyone becomes a "player coach." Anthony's response: when were these managers ever coaches? From there the two get into why coaching is genuinely hard, what fresh assessment data says about how little AI literacy most people actually have, and how even seasoned practitioners get swept up in the layoff panic. Plus the Savannah Bananas, fan-owned airlines, and why betting your whole livelihood on one paycheck might be the riskiest move of all. In this episode, we discuss:  No More Managers?: The trend at Coinbase and beyond, the HR leader who eliminated every manager overnight, and why "player coach" assumes a skill most managers were never taught.  The Gap Nobody Admits: Data from 700+ people showing most are using AI with very little literacy, and why that makes "just remove the layer of management" a dangerous bet.  Caught in the Hype: How the layoff narrative pulls everyone in, what the numbers actually show across industries, and where the real hiring is happening.  Betting on Yourself: The Savannah Bananas, fan-owned teams, and the case for becoming a polypreneur instead of trusting a single employer. Timestamps (Chapters)  00:00 - Welcome Back  00:36 - "No More Managers": Coinbase and a Chatham House Confession  04:31 - When Were Managers Ever Coaches?  06:05 - Directive vs. Socratic: What Good Coaching Looks Like  10:25 - Who's Driving the Bus? The AI Fluency Gap Nobody Admits  12:34 - The Data: Middle Management Down 12%, Spans Stretched Thin  15:53 - When "Just Execute It" Lands on a Junior HR Desk  17:28 - Caught in the Layoff Hype Cycle  21:57 - Where's the Good News? Automotive Hiring and the Savannah Bananas  25:06 - Fan-Owned Teams and the Case Against Investor Money  27:47 - The Polypreneur: Why One Paycheck Is a Risk  32:18 - Are Giant Companies a Relic? GE vs. Google vs. Instagram

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jakson Episode 5: Who's Driving the Bus? kansikuva

Episode 5: Who's Driving the Bus?

Coinbase did it. So did Snap, Dorsey, and a New York HR leader who fired every manager by text. Theresa Fesinstine and Anthony Onesto take on the "kill the managers" trend sweeping AI-era companies, and ask the question nobody seems to: if the managers are gone, who's actually steering? The pitch is that everyone becomes a "player coach." Anthony's response: when were these managers ever coaches? From there the two get into why coaching is genuinely hard, what fresh assessment data says about how little AI literacy most people actually have, and how even seasoned practitioners get swept up in the layoff panic. Plus the Savannah Bananas, fan-owned airlines, and why betting your whole livelihood on one paycheck might be the riskiest move of all. In this episode, we discuss:  No More Managers?: The trend at Coinbase and beyond, the HR leader who eliminated every manager overnight, and why "player coach" assumes a skill most managers were never taught.  The Gap Nobody Admits: Data from 700+ people showing most are using AI with very little literacy, and why that makes "just remove the layer of management" a dangerous bet.  Caught in the Hype: How the layoff narrative pulls everyone in, what the numbers actually show across industries, and where the real hiring is happening.  Betting on Yourself: The Savannah Bananas, fan-owned teams, and the case for becoming a polypreneur instead of trusting a single employer. Timestamps (Chapters)  00:00 - Welcome Back  00:36 - "No More Managers": Coinbase and a Chatham House Confession  04:31 - When Were Managers Ever Coaches?  06:05 - Directive vs. Socratic: What Good Coaching Looks Like  10:25 - Who's Driving the Bus? The AI Fluency Gap Nobody Admits  12:34 - The Data: Middle Management Down 12%, Spans Stretched Thin  15:53 - When "Just Execute It" Lands on a Junior HR Desk  17:28 - Caught in the Layoff Hype Cycle  21:57 - Where's the Good News? Automotive Hiring and the Savannah Bananas  25:06 - Fan-Owned Teams and the Case Against Investor Money  27:47 - The Polypreneur: Why One Paycheck Is a Risk  32:18 - Are Giant Companies a Relic? GE vs. Google vs. Instagram

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jakson Episode 4: HR's Identity Crisis: Are We Business Leaders or Not? kansikuva

Episode 4: HR's Identity Crisis: Are We Business Leaders or Not?

In this episode of Breaking Views, Theresa Fesinstine and Anthony Onesto explore the intersection of HR, business strategy, and the evolving role of human capital. The conversation begins with reflections from the Troop HR Retreat, highlighting the importance of connection, intentional design, and creating space for meaningful dialogue beyond traditional conference formats. From there, the discussion expands into a broader critique of today’s HR landscape. They examine the gap between HR-focused content and true business fluency, questioning whether current conferences and conversations are adequately preparing HR leaders to operate as strategic business partners. The episode also dives into topics like resilience, leadership mindset, and the need for more rigorous, standardized ways to measure human capital’s impact on business outcomes. Throughout, the conversation challenges assumptions, surfaces tensions, and pushes toward a more integrated view of HR as a core driver of organizational success. A wide-ranging, candid discussion that connects what’s happening in the world of work to what’s needed next.

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jakson Episode 1: The Break Out! kansikuva

Episode 1: The Break Out!

Theresa Fesinstine and Anthony Onesto kick off their new podcast the only way that makes sense: by pulling a headline straight from LinkedIn and ripping into it. The conversation starts with the class action lawsuit filed against EightfoldAI in California, alleging the company scraped social media and public data to build candidate profiles without consent. But instead of piling onto the fear cycle, Theresa and Anthony dig into what's actually worth paying attention to and what's just noise. They unpack the media hype machine around AI, the predictable rotation of panic topics (safety, environment, water usage), and why HR leaders keep getting caught between "adopt everything" pressure from the C-suite and "trust nothing" instincts from a career spent managing risk. The real thread running through this episode: HR's relationship with permission. Why are so many CHROs still asking IT if they can have the tools they need instead of directing what their function requires? Anthony shares the story of being Workday's 61st customer because he refused to wait for approval, and Theresa breaks down the difference between requesting technology and presenting a business case with ROI expectations attached. It's a distinction that changes the entire dynamic. They also get into the parallels between AI hype and every previous tech wave (dot-com, mobile, social), why lawsuits can actually be a good thing for the industry, and how tools like Gemini and ChatGPT's Pulse feature are shaping how they stay sharp day to day.

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