The Education Show
It’s hard to think of someone better than Tony Wan to talk to about the current edtech backlash. First, he was a startup founder. Then he covered ed tech at EdSurge, the site that chronicled the rise of technology in schools. Currently, he’s an edtech investor at Reach Capital [https://thewire.reachcapital.com/]. In this new interview, Wan describes the current backlash as a bit of a hangover from the COVID era and a reaction to the influx of of federal dollars given to schools, most of which have now been spent. Wan doesn’t claim that schools are all getting high-quality programs, or that edtech companies deserve anything but skepticism. However, he’s concerned about researchers and reporters overstating negative effects, the lack of nuance in public understanding of edtech, the presumption that edtech advocates have nefarious motives — and the danger of “throwing the baby out with the bathwater.” While he laments what’s happened to EdSurge since his departure, Wan acknowledges that some of the coverage that was produced in earlier years may have been inadequately skeptical for some tastes (including mine). Nonetheless, Wan wants to see a better mix of stories including teachers who are also edtech founders: “One of the voices I really enjoyed covering (and is sometimes missing from today’s coverage) are companies and startups founded by former teachers and educators, who are building solutions from their lived experience and personal mission to address problems that they themselves felt and saw firsthand.” Watch the interview or read the transcript above (or on YouTube [http://youtube.com/@thegrade7706/videos]). Listen to the conversation on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/1JwQiPIHlxf0LQdaLr4CYv] or Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-education-show/id1858272151]. You can follow Wan at his Substack, edtech after dark [https://tonywan.substack.com/]. Apologies to everyone for the technical difficulties! Featured quotes: “Districts are really hard asking hard questions around what is that return on investment? What is actually working?” “We want schools to be asking good questions and we want our companies to be able to show their impact. But the reality is that a lot of the procurement decisions don’t necessarily have impact or efficacy baked into those decisions.” “We started with one newsletter that focused on the entrepreneur and investor perspective, and so I can understand some of that perspective that EdSurge was a little bit too cheerleader-y and a little bit too Silicon Valley for some folks. But we also started a second newsletter that was more for targeted at teachers and I think here is where our coverage and the op eds that we published would get at some … [of] things don’t fully deliver on the promise.” “Now I think Ed Surge is just a little bit more like an Edutopia, and kind of missing that business lens.” “Any claims that a salesperson or a CEO makes deserves some healthy dose of scrutiny and pushback. Anyone developing ed tech should expect that.” Previously from The Grade How ISTE turned EdSurge into slop [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/how-iste-turned-edsurge-into-slop] EdSurge mystery Part 2 [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/weekend-highlights-education-journalism] (bonus section) Betrayed by the PTA, ed tech vs. ed reporters, & assessing #EWA26. [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/betrayed-by-the-pta-ed-tech-vs-ed] (newsletter) Education, technology, & the media [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/education-technology-and-the-media] (roundup) Why are schools awash in YouTube? [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/schools-awash-in-youtube] (Shalini Ramachandran / WSJ) The 30-year delusion about schools & tech [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/the-30-year-delusion-about-schools] (Todd Oppenheimer / The Computer Delusion) Covering the edtech backlash [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/covering-the-edtech-backlash-in-lower] (Sharon Lurye / Associated Press) Artificial intelligence & education news [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/artificial-intelligence-and-education] (Abraham Kenmore) How to cover ed tech hysteria [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/how-to-avoid-ed-tech-hysteria] (Holly Korbey / The Bell Ringer) How to cover online manipulation of students (without exacerbating the problem) [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/p/how-to-cover-online-dangers-without] Get full access to Alexander Russo's The Grade at alexanderrusso.substack.com/subscribe [https://alexanderrusso.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]
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