Searching for the "Good Song" (Tönsing)

Dogma is the Norm for the Liturgy

In this episode, Kip and Steve continue their exploration of lex orandi, lex credendi, examining how the phrase has been understood in Roman Catholic, Anglican, and Lutheran contexts. With reference to Hermann Sasse and others, they consider questions of liturgical authority, the relationship between worship and doctrine, and the extent to which liturgical practices can shape theological understanding. Together, they reflect on the opportunities and dangers of appealing to lex orandi, lex credendi, especially when discussing liturgical change and its doctrinal implications.

Lex Orandi Lex Credendi?

In this episode, Kip and Steve explore the history, meaning, and controversy surrounding the phrase 'lex orandi, lex credendi'. Tracing its origins and historical context, they examine common misunderstandings, questions of attribution, and the phrase’s relationship to both Roman Catholic and Lutheran theology. Together, they consider how the expression has been used in discussions of doctrine and worship, why it has gained prominence in recent Lutheran conversations, and why careful historical and theological clarity is essential when appealing to it.

2026 Songwriting Retreat

In this episode, Kip and Steve discuss the annual songwriter retreat hosted by the Center for Worship Leadership at Concordia University Irvine. With participants from more than 20 states, the retreat brings songwriters together for collaboration, encouragement, and shared purpose. Together, they reflect on how the songwriting process fosters unity, forms meaningful partnerships, and supports the church with songs written for congregational worship.

Doctrine & Practice

In this episode, Kip and Steve explore the relationship between theology and practice in Lutheran worship. The conversation examines how worship both expresses and shapes belief, considering themes such as theology in liturgy, theology through liturgy, and the ways liturgical practices form Christians for everyday life. Together, they reflect on how the church’s worship is not merely a reflection of theology, but also a powerful means through which theology is learned, embodied, and lived.

Searching for the "Good Song" (Tönsing)

In this episode, Kip and Steve explore different approaches used to select songs for worship through the work of Gertrud Tönsing. They consider common approaches to song selection—including emotional, evangelistic, aesthetic, theological, and personal meaning—and then turn toward a more integrated approach. Together, they reflect on how text, tune, theology, emotion, and congregational formation belong together as the church considers not only what makes a song effective, but what makes it faithful and durable.