The Pony Girls Podcast

Working from Challenging Histories: Pavlov, Shakespeare, and Classical Dressage

34 min · 21. loka 2025
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How do we respond when we are working from a history that contains challenging ethics and grief? How do we responsibly use the knowledge for good, without erasing the violence of the past? Taylor and Christa delve into these questions in relation to Behavior Science, Shakespeare, and Classical Dressage. References: Horowitz, A. (2019). Our Dogs, Ourselves. Scribner.

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