The Stack Overflow Podcast

The logos, ethos, and pathos of your LLMs

Ryan is joined by Professor Tom Griffiths, the head of Princeton University’s AI Lab, to dive into findings from his new book The Laws of Thought, which explores the history of the philosophy, mathematics, and logic that underlie artificial intelligence, and scientists' efforts to describe our minds using mathematics. They discuss the challenges of understanding human cognition, the implications of probabilistic AI “thinking,” and where Aristotle fits into the philosophical discussions we’re having on consciousness and sentience in AI.  Episode notes:  The Laws of Thought [https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250358363/thelawsofthought/] details our quest to use mathematics to describe the ways we think, from its origins three hundred years ago to the ideas behind modern AI systems and how our human minds differ from the neural networks of AI.  Connect with Tom on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/tom-griffiths-7b31a0364/] and find more of his work at the Princeton website [https://cocosci.princeton.edu/tom/tom.php].  Congrats to user Andreas Rayo Kniep [https://stackoverflow.com/users/2813227/andreas-rayo-kniep] for winning a Populist badge for their answer to Is there a difference between the UTC and Etc/UTC time zones? [https://stackoverflow.com/questions/14128574/is-there-a-difference-between-the-utc-and-etc-utc-time-zones]. We want to know what you're using to upskill and learn in the age of AI. Take this five minute survey [https://stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_beHfwZ2k1tEx0PA?utm_medium=podcast&utm_source=house-ads&utm_campaign=pulse-survey-learning&utm_content=take-survey] on learning and AI to have your voice heard in our next Stack Overflow Knows Pulse Survey.  TRANSCRIPT [https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/02/10/the-logos-ethos-and-pathos-of-your-llms/] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

AI attention span so good it shouldn’t be legal

We have another two-for-one special this week, with two more interviews from the floor of re:Invent. First, Ryan welcomes Pathway CEO Zuzanna Stamirowska and CCO Victor Szczerba to dive into their development of Baby Dragon Hatchling, the first post-transformer frontier model, from how continual learning and memory will transform AI to the real-world use cases for longer LLM attention span.  In the second part of this episode, Ryan is joined by Rowan McNamee, co-founder and COO of Mary Technology, to discuss bringing AI into the carefully governed world of litigation and how LLMs are helping lawyers manage and interpret the vast amounts of legal evidence that pass across their desks every day. Episode notes:  Pathway [https://pathway.com/] is building the first post-transformer frontier model that solves for attention span and continual learning. Mary Technology [https://www.marytechnology.com/] is an AI for attorneys that turns evidentiary documents into structured, easy-to-review facts. Connect with Zuzanna on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/stamirowska/] and Twitter [https://x.com/zuzanna_pathway].  Reach out to Victor at his email: victor@pathway.com [victor@pathway.com]  Connect with Rowan on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/rowan-mcnamee-496046182/]. We want to know what you're using to upskill and learn in the age of AI. Take this five minute survey [https://stackoverflow.az1.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_beHfwZ2k1tEx0PA?utm_medium=email&utm_source=house-ads&utm_campaign=pulse-survey-learning&utm_content=take-survey] on learning and AI to have your voice heard in our next Stack Overflow Knows Pulse Survey. TRANSCRIPT [https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/02/06/ai-attention-span-so-good-it-shouldn-t-be-legal] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Generating text with diffusion (and ROI with LLMs)

Two guests for the price of one! This episode has two interviews recorded at AWS re:Invent back in December. In part 1, Ryan chats with the co-founder and CEO of Inception, Stefano Ermon, about diffusion language models and how their multiple token generation compares to traditional LLMs (spoiler: they’re faster and more accurate). In the second half of the episode, Ryan and the chairman of Roomie, Aldo Luevano, dive into Roomie’s purpose built models for both physical and software AI, and how their ROI-first approach helps companies track the impact of their robotics and AI implementation.  Episode notes:  Inception [https://www.inceptionlabs.ai/] researches and builds diffusion language models for faster and more efficient AI. Roomie [https://roomie-it.com/] is a robotics and enterprise AI company with an ROI-first platform that tracks how well their AI solutions are actually working.  Connect with Stefano on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ermon/]. Connect with Aldo on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/aldoluevano-it/]. TRANSCRIPT [https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/02/03/generating-text-with-diffusion-and-roi-with-llms] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Wanna see a CSS magic trick?

Ryan is joined by Chris Coyier, founder of CSS Tricks and CodePen, to talk all about what the state of the art of CSS is today, including new features like variables and scroll-driven animations. They talk about the importance of accessibility in web design, how the web went from table-based layouts to modern CSS techniques, and exciting developments coming to CodePen 2.0. Episode notes: Chris built CSS-Tricks [https://css-tricks.com/], a website all about building websites, and ran it for 15 years, from 2007 to 2022, before selling it to DigitalOcean [https://www.digitalocean.com/]. CodePen [https://codepen.io/] is an online community for frontend developers where you can build, deploy, and show-off your code. CodePen 2.0 [https://codepen.io/beta] is their all-new IDE that is currently in private beta.  Check out Chris’ blog [https://chriscoyier.net/] and his podcast ShopTalk [https://shoptalkshow.com/]. TRANSCRIPT [https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/01/30/wanna-see-a-css-magic-trick] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].

Spy vs spy at scale

Ryan welcomes Anthony Vinci, former senior intelligence officer and author of The Fourth Intelligence Revolution, to explore AI’s evolving role in intelligence in places like translation and image analysis, the challenges of evolving modern tech into government infrastructure, and the importance of democratized intelligence so citizens can keep themselves and loved ones safe. Episode notes: The Fourth Intelligence Revolution [https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-fourth-intelligence-revolution-the-future-of-espionage-and-the-battle-to-save-america-anthony-vinci/f35e3fd76f623c19?ean=9781250370907&next=t] details how espionage practices are being transformed by a new global intelligence conflict, driven by AI and competition with China, and what everyday citizens can do to defend their privacy. Learn more at Anthony’s website [https://www.anthonyvinci.com/].  Connect with Anthony on Linkedin [https://www.linkedin.com/in/anthony-vinci/], Twitter [https://x.com/anthonyjvinci], and Substack [https://substack.com/@anthonyvinci]. Populist badge winner Orez [https://stackoverflow.com/users/1163020/orez] gets today’s shoutout for their answer to Break or exit out of "with" statement? [https://stackoverflow.com/questions/11195140/break-or-exit-out-of-with-statement]. TRANSCRIPT [https://stackoverflow.blog/2026/01/27/spy-vs-spy-at-scale/] See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy [https://art19.com/privacy] and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info [https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info].