The Tech Trek

The Tech Trek

Podcast by Elevano

The Tech Trek brings together technology leaders and innovators to share insights on software, data, AI, DevOps, and more. Hosted by Amir Bormand, the podcast explores scaling tech, building high-performing teams, and navigating leadership. Through candid conversations with top CEOs, CTOs, and engineering and product leaders, The Tech Trek provides actionable takeaways and real-world experiences to help you grow in the tech space. Whether you’re a seasoned leader or aspiring technologist, join us to explore the future of technology.

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episode Are Your Apps Ready for AI Agents? artwork
Are Your Apps Ready for AI Agents?

In this episode of The Tech Trek, Amir sits down with Reed McGinley-Stempel, co-founder and CEO of Stytch, to explore what it means for applications to be agent ready. With the rise of agentic AI—intelligent systems that can take actions on behalf of users—the landscape for SaaS and consumer-facing apps is rapidly evolving. Reed breaks down the core concepts around agent integration, including how apps must prepare to serve not just human users but also AI agents acting on their behalf. They discuss the key challenges companies face: earning user trust, managing consent and privacy, and building in human oversight to minimize costly mistakes. Using real-world examples like coding agents and calendar tools, Reed illustrates how agent adoption succeeds where there's low friction and built-in validation. He also dives into the double standard AI faces, and why even psychologically, humans might need a "human in the loop" long after AI is capable of operating on its own. If you're building applications or thinking about AI integrations, this is a forward-looking conversation you won't want to miss. 🧠 Key Takeaways What “Agent Ready” Really Means: Apps must now prepare for a world where both humans and AI agents interact with them—sometimes autonomously. Balancing Trust and Control: Consent, data privacy, and human-in-the-loop confirmations are key to gaining user trust in AI agents. Coding Agents as the First Wave: Software development is a prime use case for agent adoption, thanks to built-in validation workflows and low user friction. Why Mistakes Hit Harder with AI: Users hold AI to a higher standard than humans—especially when the cost of fixing AI mistakes causes more mental fatigue than doing it manually. The Psychological Role of Humans: Even as agents improve, a “human in the loop” may remain necessary just to reassure users, much like early elevator operators. ⏱ Timestamped Highlights 00:34 – What Stytch does: An API-first identity platform for customer apps. 01:24 – What it means to be “agent ready” in 2025. 04:29 – The 2 major user concerns: data privacy and efficacy. 08:16 – The risk of losing touch with the end user in agent-driven workflows. 11:03 – Why coding agents gained early traction: low friction + strong validation. 15:58 – Users expect more from AI than junior engineers—sometimes unfairly. 20:23 – How agent workflows challenge traditional notions of data consent. 24:17 – The future of human-in-the-loop: functional now, psychological later. 💬 Notable Quote “Humans hate friction and they hate mistakes. Agents help reduce friction—but only if they don’t make the kind of mistake that breaks trust.” – Reed McGinley-Stempel 🔗 Resources Mentioned Stytch: Identity infrastructure for modern apps 🚀 Career Tips (From the Episode) If you're an engineer, expect your role to shift toward problem solving, not boilerplate coding. When working with agents, focus on building validation steps into your workflows—they're key to adoption and trust. Product managers and designers should prioritize consent UX and asynchronous confirmations to balance automation with user control.

26. kesäk. 2025 - 27 min
episode What Is Growth Engineering? Here's How It Really Works artwork
What Is Growth Engineering? Here's How It Really Works

In this episode, Amir chats with Jason Fellin, Head of Growth Engineering at OnX Maps, to unpack what makes growth engineering unique. Jason shares how his team focuses on speed, experimentation, and measurable business impact rather than long-term architecture. From hiring strategies to cross-functional collaboration with marketing, this conversation offers a tactical look at building and leading a growth engineering org. 🧠 Key Takeaways: Validate, Don’t Overbuild: Growth engineering emphasizes testing hypotheses quickly rather than building production-grade features from the start. Non-traditional Skills Matter: Jason looks for candidates with backgrounds in psychology, finance, or even startups—people who bring statistical thinking and business curiosity. Tight Marketing Integration: The growth team plays a critical technical role in enabling marketing through experimentation, CRM tools, and MarTech stack support. Execution Is Kanban, Not Scrum: Speed and flexibility drive the team’s Kanban approach, enabling more fluid iteration on experiments and faster follow-ups on wins. ⏱️ Timestamped Highlights: 00:00 – Intro to Jason Fellin and OnX Maps’ product ecosystem 02:05 – What growth engineering is and why it’s different 04:07 – Skill sets that matter on a growth engineering team 07:19 – Adapting to short-lived code and failed experiments 09:44 – Measuring business impact and tracking team contributions 11:46 – Relationship between growth engineering and marketing 16:04 – Why the team uses Kanban instead of Scrum 19:28 – Advice for engineers who want to move into growth 22:58 – How to connect with Jason 💬 Quote of the Episode: “We scope to validate, not build… Anything that we build can just be tossed in the wayside of the digital dustbin.” – Jason Fellin 💡 Career Tips (from the episode): Cultivate a scientific curiosity—always ask “What would happen if…?” Learn basic statistics—you don’t need deep math, but you should understand how experiment data informs decisions. Focus on business impact—engineers with a product mindset and interest in KPIs thrive in growth roles. Practice scoping for speed—know when to prioritize fast iteration over scalable architecture.

25. kesäk. 2025 - 24 min
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Her Journey: Sales Leader to Cybersecurity CEO

In this episode, Amir sits down with Brooke Motta, CEO and co-founder of RAD Security, to unpack her career pivot from sales leadership to becoming a founder in the cybersecurity space. Brooke shares how her go-to-market background shaped her approach to building RAD, the challenge of stepping into technical leadership, how she’s managing growth through hiring, and what’s ahead for security and AI. Whether you're a technical founder or commercial operator, this one’s packed with practical insight. 💡 Key Takeaways: Sales Skills Scale: Brooke explains how her early career at Rapid7 taught her to build pipeline from scratch—skills that directly translated to startup leadership. Learning to Lead Technically: She shares how non-technical founders can learn quickly by knowing how they learn, and surrounding themselves with customers and engineers. Go-To-Market Meets CEO: Juggling the CRO and CEO hats requires recognizing when to zoom out, empower others, and avoid falling back into old comfort zones. Security Needs Speed: RAD was born to solve the tension between engineering velocity and security friction. AI for Security Efficiency: RAD’s new AI agentic layer is helping CISOs dramatically cut down GRC and risk reporting times. ⏱️ Timestamped Highlights: 00:37 – What RAD Security does: a CADR platform with an AI layer for better query and integration. 01:28 – Brooke’s sales journey at Rapid7 and how that shaped her operator mindset. 04:06 – CEO vs. sales mindset: learning when to stay in your lane and when to manage across functions. 06:09 – Becoming more technical by learning through founders, engineers, and users. 07:47 – Brooke’s early vision to lead, and why startup DNA suits her better than corporate environments. 09:19 – Building a "can-do" culture and why intangibles matter when hiring. 10:39 – Transitioning from doing the selling to hiring and enabling a sales team. 13:27 – The founding insight: helping security enable engineering speed, not block it. 15:31 – RAD's "do more with less" efficiency campaign for CISOs. 📣 Featured Quote: “You need to make sure as the leader of your company that you understand the market, your buyers, how your product works—and how people actually use it.” — Brooke Motta

24. kesäk. 2025 - 20 min
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Forge Your Own Leadership Path

In this episode, Richard Girges, CTO at MNTN, breaks down the appeal and risk of emulating high-profile leaders like Elon Musk or Steve Jobs. From startup life to scaling teams, Richard shares how leaders can avoid the missteps of mimicry and instead cultivate their unique "mode of genius." You’ll learn how intuition, failure, and self-awareness play a vital role in effective leadership—and why copying the “death stare” won’t make you a visionary. 🔑 Key Takeaways Emulating leaders can be a shortcut—but often a dangerous one. Traits that are easy to imitate (like quirks) may not reflect the true drivers of success. Leadership styles must align with your personal values and stage of growth. What works at an early-stage startup can break things at scale. Finding your “mode of genius” means identifying what energizes you and where you're naturally skilled or deeply motivated to improve. Failure is inevitable—and essential. The best leaders lean into it, learning through feedback loops and rapid testing. Developing a decision-making framework (like minimal viable tests) helps bypass analysis paralysis. ⏱️ Timestamped Highlights [00:01:00] What MNTN does: reinventing TV advertising with data-driven performance [00:03:00] The dangers of misapplying advice from famous founders [00:06:00] Why we gravitate toward copying successful traits—and why that’s risky [00:08:00] Emulating Elon Musk? It might work—if you’re still early stage [00:10:00] What “mode of genius” means—and how Richard found his [00:13:00] How to decide what leadership traits are worth adopting [00:15:00] Failure as a feature, not a bug, in startup leadership [00:17:00] The power of intuition and decision velocity [00:18:00] MVP-style frameworks to reduce decision fatigue [00:20:00] Why execution beats overthinking in fast-moving spaces like AI 💬 Quote Worth Sharing “If you’re not failing, then you’re probably not even running a startup.” — Richard Girges 🧰 Mentioned Resources Y Combinator's advice: “Do things that don’t scale” Rand Fishkin’s book (likely “Lost and Founder”): Influential in Richard’s leadership values 💼 Career Advice (from the episode) Don’t blindly adopt leadership styles—look for alignment with your own values. Learn through failure. Let intuition guide you and refine it through repetition. Early in your career, test different leadership behaviors and refine based on what resonates—not just what’s trendy. Adopt a fast-feedback loop: test small, learn fast, iterate often.

23. kesäk. 2025 - 22 min
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The Secret to Winning a Two-Sided Marketplace

In this episode, Amir sits down with Brian McMahon, CEO and co-founder of Pickle—a fashion rental marketplace aiming to become the Airbnb for everyday items. Brian unpacks how Pickle solved the classic two-sided marketplace dilemma, why hyperlocal supply is their secret weapon, and how AI is powering everything from product tagging to customer support. They also dive into the evolution of Pickle’s fundraising strategy—from getting no investor traction to securing repeat backers. Whether you're building a marketplace, navigating fashion tech, or fundraising in today’s climate, this conversation is packed with insights. 🔑 Key Takeaways Two-Sided Marketplace Strategy: Pickle launched by creatively seeding inventory from local influencers, solving the chicken-and-egg problem by targeting people who both supply and demand the product. Supply Drives Growth: In marketplaces like Pickle, supply quality and availability are the key levers for growth and retention. Fashion Trends = Opportunity: Pickle thrives by leaning into dynamic, trend-based inventory without owning any products—speed and style come from the community. AI as a Differentiator: From image-based product tagging to automated support for dispute resolution, AI is central to scalability and experience. Fundraising Realism: Brian shares lessons from struggling to raise initially to now securing back-to-back funding rounds with consistent investors. ⏱️ Timestamped Highlights 00:32 – What is Pickle? A peer-to-peer fashion rental marketplace, like Airbnb for clothes. 02:12 – Creative launch strategy: uploading closets from friends and hosting influencer photoshoots. 05:06 – Why supply matters most in marketplace momentum. 07:45 – How trends impact Pickle’s inventory—and why that’s a strength. 09:24 – Search challenges at scale and the different discovery modes for users. 12:02 – AI applications: product tagging, onboarding inventory, and handling customer disputes. 14:53 – Expansion vision: clothing today, tools, electronics, and party supplies tomorrow 16:51 – Fundraising journey: from no traction to repeat backers. 20:01 – Advice on blocking out market noise and focusing on building a solid business. 21:41 – Connect with Brian: LinkedIn – Brian McMahon 💬 Notable Quote "The only thing you can control is the quality of your business… Good businesses will find capital if they’re building something that makes sense." — Brian McMahon 📚 Resources Mentioned Pickle: https://www.rentpickle.com Investors: Kraft, FirstMark, Burst Capital, FJ Labs 💼 Career Tips (from the episode) If you're in a peer-to-peer marketplace startup, be patient. Investors often want to see a full year of retention and repeat behavior before committing. Don’t get distracted by hype events—spend that energy building a product people love

20. kesäk. 2025 - 22 min
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