World's Toughest Job
In 1987, the United Nations called a huge meeting in Montreal to negotiate the phase out of ozone depleted chemicals. And…it worked. The ozone layer is healing. And the Montreal Protocol is probably the best environmental treaty we've ever pulled off. But the Montreal Protocol had to deal with one set of chemicals. A handful of companies. A replacement that was already sitting on the shelf. And what the next secretary-general inherits is nothing like that. In this last episode of World’s Toughest Job, we’re asking: Can the next Secretary General turn the UN from a place where the future gets talked about into a place where it gets protected? Host Jasmin Bauomy and co-host Mark Malloch-Brown are joined by Ana Toni, COP30 CEO and National Secretary for Climate Change, Brazil; Arunabha Ghosh, founder and CEO of the Council on Energy, Environment and Water and COP30 Special Envoy for South Asia; and Jacob Ellis, who’s a policymaker, civil society leader, and champion for intergenerational fairness. He works at the Office of the Future Generations Commissioner for Wales in support of the implementation of Wales’ world-leading Well-being of Future Generations Act. World’s Toughest Job is a co-production of Foreign Policy and the UN Foundation.
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