Concerned Clergy Podcast

Concerned Clergy Podcast June 10,2026

https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] SUMMARY: With summer underway and a Democratic state convention just behind them, Rev. Tony Alexander and Pastor David W. Greene Sr. open this week’s program on two urgent fronts: the state of the Indiana Democratic Party in the aftermath of the Secretary of State convention vote, and a gathering threat to public safety at Northwestway Park on Indianapolis’s northwest side. On the political front, both hosts dissect the convention outcome — Beau Bayh over Blythe Potter — and the immediate backlash from some Potter supporters threatening to sit out November, tracing the dysfunction back to a chronic leadership vacuum within the state and Marion County Democratic Party. Caller Marilyn provides a sharp firsthand account of bureaucratic neglect in the state’s disability services system, which both hosts connect directly to low voter turnout and the failure to hold elected officials accountable. The second half of the program focuses on a social-media-organized “Motion Party” takeover announced for Northwestway Park the coming Saturday — a flash event that follows a weapons-brandishing incident the previous Friday — raising alarms about park safety, IMPD staffing shortfalls, vanishing park ranger funding, and the mayor’s silence. Both hosts close with a call for proactive city leadership before a crisis forces reactive finger-pointing. Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. WHAT’S INSIDE 00:00:00 Station ID and program open - Rev. Alexander previews the evening’s two topics: the Indiana Democratic state convention outcome and park safety heading into summer. - Pastor Greene joins; offers opening prayer. 00:02:48 Indiana Democratic convention recap -- Bayh wins, party fractures - Rev. Alexander reports on the Democratic state convention: over 2,300 of roughly 2,500 delegates attended; State Treasurer and Comptroller nominations were uncontested formalities; all the heat was in the Secretary of State race between Blythe Potter and Beau Bayh. - Immediately after Bayh won, the room split — many Potter supporters publicly declaring they won’t support Bayh in November. Rev. Alexander urges Democrats to reconsider given the stakes of the Secretary of State race. - Pastor Greene: the fracturing traces back to how the process was run -- Marion County, as the largest delegation, needed to model transparency and fairness from the start to earn trust on the back end. 00:05:51 Leadership vacuum in the Indiana Democratic Party - Pastor Greene: without transparency and accountability going in, there can be no trust coming out. The party cannot unite for a blue wave if people feel the process was tilted. - Rev. Alexander: Indiana Democrats have no single public-facing leader -- only a collection of silos. Township leaders, city-county councilors, reps, senators -- each running their own kingdom, none galvanizing the whole. - Pastor Greene agrees: fresh leadership is required. The current leaders have not delivered on the two fundamentals -- raising money and turning out voters -- and should step aside. - Both hosts: this didn’t get broken in one election and won’t be fixed in one. Transparency and accountability must come first; trust follows. 00:13:23 Indiana needs Democratic mayors supported, not picked off - Rev. Alexander: the urgency isn’t just November -- Democrat mayors in Terre Haute, Evansville, Muncie, and other Indiana cities need coordinated party support now, or they’ll be picked off one by one. - Instead of spending party money on travel, send resources directly to those local organizations to empower them with the same playbook. - Pastor Greene: the current leadership cannot bring about the unity needed. The party has been intentionally kept divided by those who benefit from the chaos. Who can unify? That question has to be answered honestly -- and asked: when did Indiana Democrats last win a statewide election? 00:17:21 Convention aftermath -- room splits, SOS stakes - Rev. Alexander: the room split almost literally the moment the SOS vote was called, echoing the division visible on Facebook in real time. Despite the disappointment, he urges Democrats not to give up -- the Secretary of State position is too critical. - Pastor Greene: Morales has been egregious with taxpayer money; his own party may not even nominate him. The Concerned Clergy raised the unifying-message question during delegate training -- now they’ve seen the answer play out. - Republicans, by contrast, will close ranks the moment their convention produces a nominee. Democrats must do the same. 00:21:41 Caller Marilyn -- Disability services crisis and congressional accountability - Marilyn, legal guardian of a severely disabled 43-year-old nephew with the cognitive level of a 6-year-old, calls to describe the state’s attempt to eliminate his 24-hour care -- not because he doesn’t need it, but because the state won’t pay for it. - She contacted Rep. André Carson’s office for help; his office redirected her directly back to the very agency that had already denied her nephew’s claim. - Her broader point: elected officials give auto-generated responses to constituent calls, cannot be reached, and face no accountability. Both parties have proven indifferent to people’s actual needs. 00:24:24 Post-Marilyn discussion -- Funding cuts and the voting imperative - Rev. Alexander: Marilyn’s experience is not isolated -- organizations like Noble of Indiana are losing funding that serves people in exactly her nephew’s situation, as are programs for disabled children statewide. - Pastor Greene: CICOA (Central Indiana Council on Aging) is on the cut list for seniors; FSSA announced a six-month freeze on autism support applications just the prior week. These cuts happen because the party in power can -- low voter turnout lets them. - Rev. Alexander: elected officials in the minority should be shouting these cuts from every bullhorn and billboard. The public doesn’t know what’s being cut. Silence is a failure of transparency. 00:29:31 Northwestway Park -- Background and the takeover threat - Rev. Alexander introduces the park safety topic: spoke earlier that day with the IMPD Northwest District commander and the Northwestway Park manager. - Northwestway Park -- trails, soccer fields, splash park, picnic areas -- has seen an uptick of incidents; the previous Friday saw two people brandishing weapons before officers dispersed a crowd. - A “Motion Party” has been announced on social media for Saturday, June 13th at 2 p.m. at Northwestway Park -- $5 cover, promoted on Instagram, drawing expected crowds from across the city. - Pastor Greene: his daughter lives near the park; he’s been getting calls. Cuts to park programming, predicted years ago to cause exactly this, have now arrived. 00:36:00 The Motion Party -- What’s coming and why it’s dangerous - Rev. Alexander details the social media flyer: the date is barely visible, the event is branded as a “Motion Party,” it mirrors the spinning and flash-mob patterns seen across the city. - Pastor Greene: youth coming from all sides of town with unresolved school conflicts, in a permitless carry state, in summer heat -- this is not a question of if something goes wrong, but when. - Community presence alone won’t stop it; the problem recurs the next Saturday at a different park. A city-wide solution is needed, not a one-off response. - Rev. Alexander: IMPD Northwest District commander is already stretched -- the city is budgeting for 2,000 officers but only has about 1,200. Park ranger funding is also being cut. 00:42:07 Mayor’s accountability and the summer youth employment pipeline - Rev. Alexander: the responsibility falls on the mayor. City parks are city property. But there’s no public plan, no designated point person, and budget season is likely to bring cuts, not investment. - When something goes wrong, Chief Terry or the current chief explains it after the fact -- the mayor is absent from the proactive conversation. - Rev. Alexander raises a secondary issue: parks have historically been entry-level employers for teens (lifeguards, maintenance). Staffing shortages have already forced some parks to close for seasons. Community-driven events like Mike Epps’s park initiatives are filling the gap where sustained city investment should be. - Pastor Greene: the mayor or his designee needs to own this, name a solution, and get ahead of it -- not wait for a shooting to assign blame. 00:45:22 Imhotep in the chat -- Closing the loop on Northwestway - Rev. Alexander responds to Imhotep’s question in the Facebook chat: yes, the Motion Party is this Saturday, June 13th; Riverside Park’s regular events continue separately on Sundays. - Indy Parks and the IMPD Northwest District are now aware of Saturday’s planned takeover; both hosts hope the advance notice sends a signal to would-be disruptors. - Rev. Alexander: the community values Northwestway Park as a resource -- families, walkers, soccer players -- and will not allow it to be taken over and abandoned. - Pastor Greene closes: the city must be at the table. Leadership has to step up before the crisis, not just show up to assign blame after it. 00:49:54 Program close https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndyhttps://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy [https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. 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Concerned Clergy Podcast June 3,2026

https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] SUMMARY: In a dense, two-topic hour, Rev. Tony Alexander and Pastor David W. Greene Sr. open with a sharp response to Indiana Lt. Governor Micah Beckwith's public call to normalize hate speech and his characterization of Islam as a "demonic death cult." Pastor Greene details a press release issued jointly with the Baptist Ministries Alliance and the General Missionary Baptist Convention demanding Governor Mike Braun formally retract Beckwith's remarks, and announces a multi-faith Religious Freedom Summit at the Statehouse the following Thursday. Callers Imhotep and Tim engage on the theme of media bias and Black community self-determination before Rev. Alexander pivots to a rant on Trump administration anti-DEI policy and the unqualified nomination of Bill Pulte to lead the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. The second half of the program focuses on the upcoming Indiana Democratic state convention, where delegates will nominate candidates for Secretary of State, State Treasurer, and State Comptroller. Rev. Alexander and Pastor Greene parse Senator J.D. Ford's last-minute endorsement of Beau Bayh over Blythe Potter, express concern about the chaos it is sowing among progressives, and detail a candidate forum convened by the Concerned Clergy coalition to probe both SOS candidates on voter access, Black community engagement, and accountability -- framing the Secretary of State race as one of the most consequential on the November ballot. Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. WHAT’S INSIDE 00:00:00 Station ID and program open - Rev. Alexander previews the evening’s two topics: fireworks in the Democratic Secretary of State race, and Lt. Governor Beckwith’s call to promote hate. - Pastor Greene joins; offers opening prayer. 00:03:17 Lt. Governor Beckwith’s hate speech and the Concerned Clergy response - Rev. Alexander describes Lt. Governor Micah Beckwith’s public statement calling for Americans to be given “permission to hate” and his characterization of Islam as a demonic death cult -- framed as inconsistent with his professed Christian faith. - Pastor Greene details a press release crafted jointly with the Baptist Ministries Alliance (Dr. Wayne Moore), Dr. Clyde Posey, and the General Missionary Baptist Convention, demanding Governor Braun publicly retract Beckwith’s remarks. - Both hosts note this is not Beckwith’s first offense -- he previously referred to African Americans as “three-fifths of a person” -- and that the governor has responded with silence in both instances. - Pastor Greene: the call to hate is a moral issue, not a partisan one; the response is coming from Democrats and Republicans alike. 00:07:12 Religious Freedom Summit announcement and governor’s non-response - Pastor Greene announces a multi-faith Religious Freedom Summit at the Indiana Statehouse Thursday at noon, organized with Sen. Fady Qaddoura, bringing together participants across faiths and races. - The three formal asks from the Concerned Clergy coalition: a public retraction of Beckwith’s statements, a reaffirmation of commitment to religious liberty and dignity for all Hoosiers, and a clear statement that hate-filled rhetoric has no place in state leadership. - Governor Braun has not responded as of airtime; both hosts tie his silence to his own plans to put Turning Point USA clubs in Indiana schools and his political interest in not alienating Beckwith as a future competitor. 00:10:13 Beckwith’s pattern of behavior and political motivation - Rev. Alexander: Beckwith’s demeanor at public events -- smug, taunting, dismissive of concerns -- mirrors the behavior of Indianapolis City-County Councilor Gibson at the data center meeting; it’s a calculated performance, not incidental. - Both hosts speculate Beckwith is positioning himself for a higher profile ahead of the Republican convention and potentially a future run against Braun. - Pastor Greene: regardless of the motive, you can’t let someone holler fire in a movie theater. It must be called out, especially by the governor. 00:14:23 Caller Imhotep -- Universal moral code, media silence on dissent, and Palestine - Imhotep argues every faith tradition shares a common core -- do unto others -- making Beckwith’s worldview antithetical to all faith, not just Christianity. - Notes that white ministers are actively speaking out against Beckwith-style rhetoric on social media but are invisible to mainstream media. - Closes with a pointed observation about Arab American voters in Michigan who boycotted Kamala Harris over Palestine: given what has since happened there and the rise of figures like Beckwith, he argues that abstention had real consequences. 00:17:00 Post-Imhotep discussion -- Beckwith as political performance - Rev. Alexander affirms Imhotep’s thesis on media conditioning and draws a direct comparison between Beckwith’s conduct and the Councilor Gibson data center incident -- same playbook, different venue. - Pastor Greene: Beckwith’s escalating rhetoric will continue unless addressed; notes Braun’s self-interest in not denouncing his lieutenant governor. - Denise posts in the chat asking whether there was a call for Beckwith to step down; Pastor Greene clarifies the formal ask stopped at retraction, though he notes public pressure may eventually push further. 00:20:15 Rev. Alexander’s rant -- DEI dismantling and the DNI nomination - Rev. Alexander pivots to a rant on the Trump administration’s anti-DEI campaign -- cutting any program that an AI search flagged for the phrase “diversity, equity, inclusion” -- while simultaneously appointing unqualified loyalists. - Highlights the nomination of Bill Pulte to head the Office of the Director of National Intelligence: no security experience, no intelligence agency background, no law enforcement history. - Raises the implicit contradiction: a president who claims to have been shot at and survived multiple close calls is putting someone with zero security credentials in charge of national intelligence. - Closes the loop on the staged-assassination-attempt conspiracy theory circulating online and why Trump’s failure to tighten security makes it harder to dismiss. 00:26:30 Caller Tim -- Stop complaining, pool resources, vote - Tim urges the Black community to stop focusing energy on racist rhetoric and instead adopt the model of Asian Americans: pool resources, invest in each other, put the right people in office. - Recommends Black churches purchase land around their buildings and generate revenue by renting facilities six days a week to sustain their missions. - Rev. Alexander and Pastor Greene affirm the voting imperative while pushing back gently: sharing information isn’t complaining, it’s how you help people vote wisely -- politicians win by deceiving voters, so you have to arm people with facts. 00:30:39 Accountability for elected officials -- both parties - Rev. Alexander: voting isn’t enough if you then excuse whatever your candidate does in office. Accountability must follow the win. - Pastor Greene: Trump didn’t campaign on tariffs, war with Iran, or rising gas prices -- he won on a different message and then governed another way. Voters have to be discerning, not loyal. - Both hosts agree: whoever the next Secretary of State is, the Concerned Clergy will hold them to what they said. 00:32:06 Indiana Democratic convention preview -- SOS, Treasurer, Comptroller - Rev. Alexander lays out the stakes: the Democratic convention that Saturday will nominate candidates for Secretary of State, State Treasurer, and State Comptroller (formerly the Auditor). The Republican convention will do the same. - On the Republican side: the question is whether incumbent Diego Morales -- who has faced significant opposition from within his own party -- survives. Former Indianapolis Mayor Greg Ballard is also in the Secretary of State race as an independent. - Democratic delegates: hundreds coming from Marion County alone, approximately 2,500 statewide. Results expected Saturday evening. - Treasurer and Comptroller candidates are running unopposed; only the Secretary of State race is competitive on the Democratic side. 00:33:53 Senator J.D. Ford’s endorsement of Beau Bayh - Rev. Alexander: Senator J.D. Ford -- who had explicitly said he was staying out of the Secretary of State primary -- endorsed Beau Bayh just days before the convention vote, creating immediate backlash from progressives who supported both Ford and Potter. - Pastor Greene: the timing is the problem. Jumping in four days out after saying you’re staying neutral sends mixed signals and creates chaos at exactly the wrong moment for party unity. - Both hosts note comments on Councilor Jesse Brown’s Facebook page -- the top comment reads “Y’all made this a war” -- indicating the endorsement is deepening fissures that will be hard to close after the convention. - Pastor Greene: he doesn’t believe Ford acted arbitrarily; there’s something behind it they don’t know yet, and it may not be a satisfying answer for those offended. The distraction pulls focus away from Ford’s real opponent -- Republican Victoria Spartz. 00:38:19 Concerned Clergy’s candidate forum with Potter and Bayh - Pastor Greene details a candidate forum convened by the Concerned Clergy, Baptist Ministries Alliance, and General Missionary Baptist State Convention of Indiana, with both Secretary of State candidates -- Blythe Potter and Beau Bayh. - Questions focused specifically on the Black community: voter access and protection, Black community outreach strategy, staffing diversity, Black-owned business engagement via the SOS business registration function. - Context: current SOS Diego Morales has already provided Indiana voter data to the federal government; the next SOS will face immediate federal pressure. - Both candidates’ responses recorded; Pastor Greene expects the winner to appear on the Concerned Clergy program multiple times to be held accountable to their commitments. 00:43:47 Why the Secretary of State race matters more than ever - Rev. Alexander: the SOS controls voting -- and voting is under more direct attack than at any point in memory, from executive orders on mail-in ballots to the threat of ICE presence at polling places. - Pastor Greene: ICE at the polls will deter not just Latino voters but Black voters who avoid any law enforcement presence. Indiana’s already-low voter turnout cannot absorb that kind of intimidation. - Rev. Alexander invokes the Trump-Raffensperger call: Trump didn’t call the governor of Georgia after losing in 2020 -- he called the Secretary of State. That office controls whether votes get found or not. - Pastor Greene names the coalition present at the candidate forum: Dr. Posey (General Missionary Baptist of Indiana), Dr. Moore (Baptist Ministries Alliance), Dr. Clyde, and himself -- meeting at Purpose of Life Church. 00:48:26 Post-forum fallout -- J.D. Ford endorsement revisited - Rev. Alexander: the Ford endorsement of Bayh has already surfaced in comments on Councilor Jesse Brown’s page as evidence that Democrats are “making this a war” -- poisoning the well for post-convention unity. - Pastor Greene: whoever wins on Saturday, the real opponent is the GOP. Every distraction from that fight is a gift to the Republican side. - Both hosts close with a call to watch Saturday’s results and a promise to report out more details next week. 00:55:15 Program close https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndyhttps://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy [https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. 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Concerned Clergy Podcast May 27,2026

https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] SUMMARY: Back after a one-week technical hiatus, Rev. Tony Alexander and Pastor David W. Greene Sr. anchor the hour around a double-barreled critique of racial disparity in how youth misbehavior is covered and prosecuted in Central Indiana. The first half examines a Mill Stream (Noblesville High School) article about Hamilton County fight clubs and spinout gatherings, contrasting the sympathetic economic framing the article applies to white suburban teens with the blame-and-curfew response routinely directed at Black youth in Marion County. Callers Joyce, Mayhem, Moteph, Deanna, and Reverend Phillips each add perspective on parental responsibility, media bias, and the double standard in criminal justice outcomes. The second half pivots to Indiana Democratic Party organizing: Rev. Alexander and Pastor Greene argue that Marion County Democrats are in structural disarray -- unable to run effective PC meetings, let alone mobilize for November -- while Boone and Hamilton County Democratic precinct committees are already a year into door-knocking, voter ID, and blue-wave training. Both hosts close with a direct warning that Marion County leadership must get organized or be held accountable when Indiana fails to ride a national Democratic wave. Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. WHAT’S INSIDE 00:00:00 Station ID and program open - Rev. Alexander opens with Substack/Progressive Indiana Network replay information and previews the evening’s topics: Democratic conventions, delegate decisions, and racial disparities in how youth misbehavior is addressed. - Pastor Greene joins, offers opening prayer. 00:03:29 Hamilton County fight clubs -- The Mill Stream article - Rev. Alexander introduces a Mill Stream (Noblesville High School newspaper) article [https://millermedianow.org/10955/uncategorized/the-cost-of-community-is-inconvenience/] titled “The Cost of Community is Inconvenient,” covering fight clubs and teen mob gatherings at Sonic and other Hamilton County businesses. - Article attributes the behavior to economic hardship -- teens can’t afford bowling alleys or movies -- a framing neither host has ever seen applied to similar activity in Marion County. - Pastor Greene notes Hamilton County officials will likely suppress coverage; in Marion County, identical behavior would lead local news. 00:07:07 Double standard in narrative framing -- curfews, parents, and the article’s spin - Pastor Greene observes that when Marion County youth misbehave, media asks “where are the parents?” and talks curfews; the Mill Stream piece never mentions parents at all. - Rev. Alexander reads additional article passages arguing businesses, adults, and teens are all “suffering” -- language he has never seen used to describe similar incidents involving Black youth. - Rev. Alexander: the narrative frame set at the top of an article determines the entire direction of the discussion -- starting with economic hardship leads to movie ticket subsidies, not accountability. 00:11:19 Hamilton County wealth data and the cyberbullying factor - Pastor Greene: the article’s economic hardship framing doesn’t hold up -- Westfield, Noblesville, and Carmel data show household incomes and property values roughly three times Marion County’s. - Both hosts note the Mill Stream’s author appears to be a Noblesville High School student, which may explain why parental accountability is absent from the piece. - Pastor Greene: cyberbullying spans all communities and income levels and is a key driver of the fighting; resources alone won’t fix it. He expects Hamilton County to fund recreational solutions that won’t address the root cause. - Rev. Alexander: social media connects youth across county lines -- everyone is chasing the same trends -- making the behavior universal even as the framing remains racially bifurcated. 00:18:22 Caller Joyce -- Racial double standard in parental blame - Joyce argues the tried-and-true solution is mobilizing churches, which already have brick-and-mortar facilities, to create positive programming for young people. - Cites her experience at Church’s Chicken giving honor roll and perfect attendance coupons as a model for bringing parents and youth into positive spaces; criticizes gatekeeping as an obstacle to youth investment. - Rev. Alexander: in every discussion of Black youth on this station, parents are immediately implicated; this article about Hamilton County teens never goes there. - Pastor Greene: Hamilton County will likely throw money at recreational resources, which won’t solve the underlying cyberbullying dynamic -- and the IBJ or IndyStar would never have framed a Marion County version of this story the same way. 00:25:35 Caller Mayhem -- Hamilton County hypocrisy and Section 8 - Mayhem argues Hamilton County teens regularly come to Marion County to cause trouble and return home, yet Hamilton County dodges scrutiny. - Points out that Section 8 housing exists in Hamilton County too, contradicting its public image. - Concedes both communities cover up bad behavior, but says Marion County’s is uniquely exposed and prosecuted while Hamilton County’s is buried. 00:27:36 Caller Moteph -- Media thesis, Lawrence Hill incident, and the cover-up pattern - Moteph clarifies the show’s thesis: the question is not whether bad behavior exists, but how differently it is covered and adjudicated by county and race. - Cites a recent incident at a Lawrence Hill public park where a Black workout group doing nothing wrong was forced out -- contrasted with how Hamilton County youth destructiveness is handled. - Shares firsthand knowledge of Hamilton County cover-ups including a wealthy family’s teens hospitalized for substance abuse with no public reporting. - Invokes Malcolm X’s quote on media conditioning communities to hate the oppressed and love the oppressor. 00:31:03 Caller Deanna -- Personal testimony: parental sacrifice as the solution - Deanna shares a personal story: after losing a stepchild to violence, she moved, left a relationship, homeschooled her children, took a major pay cut, and relocated outside Indianapolis. - Reports her children are off anxiety medication and healing; credits setting firm boundaries, including with extended family. - Rev. Alexander and Pastor Greene affirm her testimony while noting her sacrifices are not options available to all Marion County parents. 00:33:37 Criminal justice disparities and transition to second segment - Pastor Greene summarizes: Hamilton County has more money to spend on solutions, spins the problem differently, and faces no pressure to implement curfews. - Rev. Alexander ties it together: the same offense -- drugs, violence, spinning, fight clubs -- will be handled as a misdemeanor with diversion in Hamilton County and as a felony in Marion County. Bail, bond, and sentencing all differ by geography and race. - Rev. Alexander previews the second-half topic: Marion County Democratic Party organization heading into November. 00:37:38 Caller Reverend Phillips -- Justice system reform - Reverend Phillips calls for better training, focus, and oversight of the justice system, arguing those in authority need more willingness to correct bad behavior rather than deferring to credentials. - Call drops before he can complete his full point. 00:39:40 Marion County Democratic Party in disarray - Rev. Alexander argues Marion County Democrats must organize now -- post-primary, pre-convention -- with delegate decisions on Secretary of State and other positions coming up. - Reports that a recent PC meeting was chaotic and left newly elected precinct committee members confused and demoralized rather than energized. - Pastor Greene: a blue wave doesn’t happen by accident. Marion County has been hearing calls for new Democratic Party leadership for months; people are frustrated that some PC candidates couldn’t get on the ballot. 00:43:46 Obama precedent and the stakes for statewide Democrats - Rev. Alexander and Pastor Greene push back on a Facebook commenter’s fatalism (”Indiana is and will always be red”), citing Obama’s 2008 Indiana win as proof a blue wave is achievable. - Pastor Greene: a Black woman is now running for Indiana State Treasurer; she cannot win without massive Marion County turnout. Same logic applies to Secretary of State and other statewide races. - Pastor Greene: Marion County Democrats who are already registered must be activated to vote -- registration alone means nothing; boots-on-the-ground PC work is the mechanism. 00:47:48 What Marion County PCs need to do differently - Rev. Alexander: resources alone aren’t enough -- you need strategy. Marion County Democratic clubs are siloed and inconsistent. - Pastor Greene contrasts Marion County’s dysfunction with Boone and Hamilton County Democratic PCs, who spent the past year knocking doors, listening to voters, and feeding intelligence back to the party -- not just campaigning for individual candidates. - Those counties ran training sessions, filled vacancies, and built a coordinated blue-wave infrastructure; Marion County has done none of this. 00:50:56 Direct call to action -- Marion County Democrats on notice - Rev. Alexander: PCs are supposed to carry out exactly this mission -- the Democrat handbook says so. Marion County is spending its energy bickering instead of organizing. - Pastor Greene: the chaos persists because some insiders benefit from it -- gatekeeping PC appointments, tolerating vacancies, keeping newly elected members confused. That has to end. - Both hosts close with a direct warning: if Indiana misses a blue wave that reaches surrounding states, those responsible will and should be held accountable. You can’t pick up your ball and go home because your primary candidate lost. https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndyhttps://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy [https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. Get full access to Progressive Indiana Network at www.progressiveindiana.net/subscribe [https://www.progressiveindiana.net/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Concerned Clergy Podcast May 13,2026

https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] SUMMARY: In this week’s edition of the Concerned Clergy Radio Show, hosts Reverend Tony Alexander and President Pastor David W. Greene Sr. dive into a timely and wide-ranging conversation about Christian nationalism versus true Christian discipleship, anchored by Pastor Greene’s recent article for Voices for Democracy examining how Christian nationalists systematically ignore Matthew 25 — Jesus’s explicit call to feed the hungry, clothe the naked, and care for strangers. Drawing on Trump’s Easter behavior, J.D. Vance’s attack on the Pope, Indiana Lt. Governor Beckwith’s three-fifths remarks, and the governor’s plan to bring Turning Point USA clubs into middle and high schools, the hosts argue that what is being sold as Christian faith is in reality a bid for racial and political power — and that the full interfaith community must respond, as evidenced by the ongoing assault on voting rights and the looming loss of CICOA services for Indiana’s elderly and disabled. Callers including Tim, Joyce, Guy, and Imhotep each add their own perspective, ranging from Black economic self-determination to humanist philosophy to a call for broad faith-community solidarity. Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. WHAT’S INSIDE 00:01:42 — Opening Prayer - Pastor Greene opens in prayer for the nation, state, and local leaders. - Prays against discord wherever the devil is sowing it. - Asks God’s protection over Rev. Alexander and blessings on all listeners. 00:02:06 — Topic Introduction: Christian Nationalism vs. Christian Discipleship - Rev. Alexander previews the night’s topic: what is Christian nationalism, and how does it compare to actual Christian discipleship? - Notes Pastor Greene recently spoke on the subject with Voices for Democracy. - Frames the question through recent events: Trump attacking the Pope at Easter, attacks on Robert Mueller after his death. - Asks: can we honestly say a president who behaves this way is following Christ as a disciple? 00:05:20 — Pastor Greene on His Voices for Democracy Article / Matthew 25 and the Black Church - Pastor Greene was invited to write an article on Christian nationalism’s silence regarding Matthew 25. - Matthew 25 is Jesus’s direct teaching: did you feed the hungry, clothe the naked, care for strangers and the sick? Christian nationalists systematically avoid this passage. - Instead they cast poor people as victims of their own choices — a form of classism — pointing to Lt. Gov. Beckwith’s three-fifths remarks as a modern example. - The Black church, emerging from slavery, grounded its faith in a Jesus who lifts the oppressed and disenfranchised — the opposite of a Jesus wielded to maintain hierarchy. - Christian nationalism’s vision of Jesus is “completely opposite” of the Jesus who ministered to women, people with questionable pasts, and the woman caught in adultery. 00:10:01 — Rev. Alexander: Oppressors and the Oppressed Using the Same Faith - Rev. Alexander observes the historical paradox: enslaved people looked to Jesus for liberation while their oppressors used the same faith to keep them down. - People of faith trusted God even as that faith was weaponized against them. - Transitions to first caller. 00:10:38 — Caller: Anonymous — On the Word “Christian” and the White Church’s Silence - Caller identifies as a child of God and son of God, not a “Christian” — noting the word was originally used as an insult in New Testament times. - Points to January 6th imagery: the American flag, the Confederate flag, a Jesus flag, and a noose together — Jesus has nothing to do with nooses or racism. - Challenges the white church’s historical silence: on slavery, on interracial marriage, on racism — where was the church then, and why won’t it speak now? - Expresses concern that Black people are leaving for Islam in part because the church has failed to draw people with love. 00:13:09 — Response: The Silence of White Churches / Lt. Gov. Beckwith / Turning Point USA in Schools (Part 1) - Rev. Alexander clarifies: the Black church was doing the work — the caller’s critique is aimed at white church silence. - Pastor Greene agrees this silence must be confronted; the attacks by Trump and Vance on the Pope demand a response from the broader faith community. - Warns against honoring the flag over the Bible — nationalism dressing itself as faith. - Lt. Gov. Beckwith, himself a pastor, is actively teaching Christian nationalist ideas to his congregation. 00:17:00 — The Silence of White Churches / Turning Point USA in Schools (Part 2) / The Faith Community Must Respond - The governor’s plan to bring Turning Point USA clubs into middle and high schools is “extremely dangerous” — it teaches superiority, discrimination, and racism to children. - The double standard: slavery cannot be taught in schools, but Turning Point USA can come in and ignore Matthew 25. - The faith community that must respond is broad: Jewish, Catholic, Protestant, Presbyterian, Muslim — not limited to any single denomination. - Christian nationalists want to be the sole authority on truth — even rejecting the Pope’s call for peace. 00:19:09 — Rev. Alexander: The Risk of Holy War - Rev. Alexander expresses fear that current rhetoric — what troops are being told, the framing of conflicts — is pushing the country toward a religious war, not just a geopolitical one. - The danger is a war defined not by nukes or oil but by competing faiths. 00:20:21 — [BREAK / Return] Caller: Tim — Black Economic Self-Determination and the Church - Tim argues Black people must stop supporting “racist clowns” and leave white churches that won’t speak up, returning to anointed Black churches. - Calls for pooling resources: Black doctors, Black lawyers, buying back community businesses — “hit them in the pocket.” - References John Reed’s killing on Michigan Avenue; notes few pastors showed up to protest. - Advocates for returning children to Sunday school, teaching Black history at home, requiring Black authors for school reports. - Tim is fifth generation married, father present — credits God, family, and community for keeping his children out of crime. 00:23:17 — Caller: Joyce — Chattel Slavery, Desensitization, and Community Alarms - Joyce builds on Tim’s comments, noting Black people were great long before American slavery — and weren’t even the first enslaved group - Describes Black people being treated as chattel and systematically desensitized through media narratives. - Mentions the jubilee tradition of debt forgiveness as a model worth noting. - Raises a local concern: tornado warning alarm systems in Indianapolis’s Black community aren’t working, and Fall Creek is rising. 00:24:55 — Response: Broadening the Fight Beyond the Black Church - Rev. Alexander notes the conversation has narrowed toward the Black community, but discipleship is broader — all followers of Christ, across all communities, must be in this together. - Pastor Greene agrees, noting Jews are often lumped in with Black people by the same forces — the fight belongs to the whole faith community. - Acknowledges Tim’s call for ownership and responsibility, while stressing the need for coalition with others. - The church’s declining attendance is real — parents who’ve left the church aren’t raising children in it — but that can’t be an excuse to ignore the crisis. 00:29:10 — Trump as a Spiritual Model? / Truth Social, the Pope, and Easter Golf - Pastor Greene: Christian nationalists dress up nationalism as faith, operating from a hierarchy in which whiteness is supreme. - Rev. Alexander: if Trump claims to be a Christian, ask him directly — is Jesus your Lord and Savior? Is Jesus your king? - Trump is plastering his own face across Washington and Florida, renaming bodies of water after himself, commissioning a golden statue. - On Easter, instead of attending church, Trump posted attacks on Truth Social, condemned the Pope, and played golf. - “That’s who you’re following as a disciple of Christ, folks. You need to find a better example.” 00:31:13 — [BREAK / Return] [CLIP: Trump] on Iran Negotiations - Rev. Alexander plays a clip of Trump being asked about American financial considerations in Iran negotiations. - Trump: “The only thing that matters... you cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon. That’s all. That’s the only thing.” - Rev. Alexander’s takeaway: he just told you he doesn’t think about you — your finances, your spiritual condition, none of it. 00:32:04 — Caller: Guy — Iran Assets, Pentagon Firings, and a YouTube Testimony - Guy notes Trump’s fixation on Obama and the Iran nuclear deal — points out the money sent to Iran was Iran’s own frozen assets, not a gift. - Suggests the Trump administration’s mass firing of Pentagon intelligence staff has left them ill-equipped to navigate the Strait of Hormuz situation. - Recommends listeners search YouTube for the story of a white Georgia farmer crushed under his tractor who reportedly received a message from Jesus Christ about the Black community. 00:33:57 — Caller: Imhotep — Humanism, Historical Context, and Why Young People Leave the Church (Part 1) - Imhotep reframes the question: rather than asking if Trump is a Christian, ask if he is humane — “the things he says and does are inhumane.” - Identifies as a humanist who has studied Buddhism’s four noble truths and eightfold path; argues shared humanity is a stronger unifying force than religion. - Invokes his grandmothers (101 in 2001; 97 in 2016): “ain’t nothing new under the sun.” - Historical walk: Black Codes (1700s), Bacon’s Rebellion (late 1600s), St. Augustine as first settlement before Jamestown, Gabriel Prosser, Denmark Vesey, John Brown and Harpers Ferry (1859). - The Puritans practiced a harsher form of Christianity in America than what they left behind in England — this behavior is not new. 00:37:17 — Caller: Imhotep — Why Young People Leave the Church (Part 2) / New BOY Mentoring - At a Center for Leadership Development meeting, Imhotep observed the crowd: 75% Black women, 25% Black men — men must be more engaged. - Three reasons young people aren’t in church: (1) single-parent homes where the working parent is at the hospital on Sundays; (2) young people are deconstructing — they read, they research on WorldCat and iCat, and they call out hypocrisy when a pastor rides a $200,000 Jag while the congregation eats cup noodles; (3) [implied: lack of male mentorship]. - His friend who runs New BOY (New Breed of Youth mentoring program) says you have to listen to young people. - Solution: show them — 25–30 years of coaching and mentoring, leading by example as “a simple human being.” 00:39:03 — Response: Adults Must Act Now / Refighting the Civil Rights Movement - Rev. Alexander refocuses: this moment requires adults to act — religious liberties for all faiths are under attack, even for self-described Christian nationalists who are still attacking Christians. - The cross-faith coalition that works in redistricting fights can work here too. - Pastor Greene: we are refighting the civil rights movement — the same forces that opposed voting rights, integration, and justice under Dr. King are back, more powerful. - The Bible warns: cast out a demon and it returns with greater numbers. That’s what we’re seeing. - The youth will be victims of this — they can’t lead the fight. Adults in the faith community must come to the table. 00:43:47 — White Christian Nationalism Is About Power, Not Service - Pastor Greene draws the sharpest contrast of the night: at the core of Christianity is service to others; white Christian nationalism is about gaining power over others. - They want power over Black people, Jewish people, poor people — the opposite of “fearfully and wonderfully made.” - Turning Point USA has moved from college campuses to middle and high schools — Charlie Kirk’s operation is spreading fast. - Some Black churchgoers migrate to white churches seeking proximity to power — sitting next to a senator or congressman feels like access — but that’s the wrong reason to choose a church. - Pastor Greene has personally challenged pastors: how do you reconcile Matthew 25 with criminalizing the homeless? 00:45:48 — Voting Rights, Redistricting, and Pastors Who Criminalize the Homeless - Rev. Alexander connects the dots: the same people who put their hands on Bibles at inauguration are stripping voting rights. - Within hours of the Supreme Court’s redistricting ruling, officials in ongoing elections moved to redraw lines and redo votes — unprecedented. - Pastor Greene: stopping an election midway is an act of pure power-seizure, not governance. - The president doesn’t want to give up Congress; minimizing the Black vote is the mechanism. - These actors aren’t heathens — they’re sitting in somebody’s church every Sunday morning. 00:50:17 — Closing: CICOA, IPS Funding Cuts, and What Discipleship Actually Looks Like - Rev. Alexander ties the abstract to the concrete: CICOA (Central Indiana Coalition on Aging) is about to go away — services for widows, elderly, and disabled Hoosiers disappearing. - Education funding is being cut from IPS. - The services that embody Matthew 25 — feeding, clothing, caring — are being stripped away in real time. - This is the difference between Christian nationalism and Christian discipleship: one seizes power, the other serves people. https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndyhttps://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy [https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. 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Concerned Clergy Podcast May 6,2026

https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] SUMMARY: The night after the May 5, 2026 Indiana primary, Rev. Tony Alexander and Pastor David W. Greene Sr. take stock of what the results mean for Indiana Democrats heading into November. Pastor Greene, himself a Senate candidate in the primary, reflects candidly on the experience of running a campaign before the conversation turns to the structural problem at the heart of Indiana Democratic politics: a Marion County electorate that turns out at 15% in primaries and needs to hit 45% or better to elect anyone statewide. The hosts walk through the numbers on voter turnout, the Secretary of State race, the Bayh name recognition question, Trump’s $13.5 million primary purge of redistricting dissenters, and what all of it means for down-ballot candidates like Kerry Forestal and Christina Moorhead. Listener comments from Gloria, Victor, Jill, Joseph, and caller Guy round out the discussion with on-the-ground perspective. Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. WHAT’S INSIDE 00:00:00 — Opening and Replay Reminder - Rev. Alexander opens by reminding listeners they can catch the full show replay on the Progressive Indiana Network’s Substack the following morning. - He notes the Indiana primaries are effectively over, with only provisional and military ballots still pending. - He welcomes Pastor David W. Greene Sr. and sets up the evening’s focus: what happened in the primary and what work remains before November. - Pastor Greene opens in prayer for the listening and watching audience. 00:01:40 — Pastor Greene on Running for Senate - Rev. Alexander asks Pastor Greene — who ran for Senate in the primary — to share what the experience is like from a candidate’s perspective. - Pastor Greene reflects that running a campaign is a relentless grind: canvassing, responding to requests, preparing materials, and managing volunteers, all while still having to live your regular life. - He describes the emotional roller coaster — some days energized, some days drained — and says he was simply relieved when Election Day finally arrived. - He frames the outcome plainly: “nothing beats a failure but a try,” and says running taught him a great deal about himself, other people, and how the political machine actually operates. 00:05:38 — Volunteers vs. Voters: The Primary Turnout Problem - Rev. Alexander notes there was unusual volunteer energy for a primary, with lots of people standing behind candidates — but that enthusiasm didn’t translate into actual votes. - Pastor Greene explains the core disconnect: most people don’t understand that the primary determines who’s on the November ballot, not November itself. - He uses Senate District 29 as an example: roughly 10,000 people voted across all candidates in the primary, but winning in November will require 25,000 votes at minimum — and possibly close to 60,000 if participation trends continue upward. - The lesson: a small minority of voters determines the primary, while the overwhelming majority only shows up in November. 00:07:56 — Marion County by the Numbers - Rev. Alexander puts Marion County’s turnout in concrete terms: 632,000 registered voters, just over 15% participation in the primary — an improvement over past cycles, but still dismal. - He walks through the math: every additional 15 points of turnout doubles the effective voting pool, yet Marion County is still well below 50%. - Listener Gloria comments on Facebook that many people she encountered didn’t even understand what the primary was or what its purpose is. - Pastor Greene agrees, noting some residents saw campaign signs and assumed they were for November — they didn’t know a May election was happening at all. 00:09:27 — Why Turnout Is the Only Variable That Matters - Pastor Greene says he has no magic solution to the turnout problem, but points to contested races and national/state conditions as the drivers of the modest increase they did see. - He argues statewide candidates cannot win without Marion County turning out at 45% or better — a candidate can visit every county in Indiana and still lose if Marion Democrats stay home. - He uses Secretary of State Diego Morales as the cautionary case: Republicans were embarrassed by him and barely put him in public, yet he won because Marion County turnout was too low to overcome rural Republican numbers. - His bottom line: 15% primary turnout means 85% of Marion County Democrats didn’t participate — and that gap is what has consistently cost Democrats statewide races. 00:13:13 — Listener Feedback: The Voter Education Gap - Listener Gloria’s comment surfaces a deeper problem: voters who don’t know the difference between a primary and a general election, or an off-year and a presidential-year election. - Rev. Alexander says this is something you encounter constantly when canvassing — it’s not just apathy, it’s genuine lack of civic knowledge. - Pastor Greene agrees and says the work ahead isn’t just get-out-the-vote but voter education and preparation at a basic level. - Listener Victor comments that Democrats show up strong for the state convention but tank in November — Rev. Alexander says he’s heard this before, particularly the assumption that local Democrats don’t need to vote because their candidate is already safe. 00:15:32 — Post-Primary Division: Will Democrats Unify? - Pastor Greene raises the unity problem directly: before the election, he saw social media posts where people were asked whether they’d support the primary winner — and a lot of responses were “maybe” or “it all depends.” - He argues that failure to heal the primary divide will make it impossible to win in November, because you’re not winning anything with 15% turnout. - Statewide candidates need to not just win Marion County but win it by enough of a margin to overcome the rural Republican advantage — simply “getting” Marion County isn’t enough. - He uses SD-29 nominee Christina Moorhead as an example: she needs strong Democratic turnout specifically in the Pike and Wayne portions of Marion County, or she cannot win. 00:17:40 — Caller Guy: Reasons for Optimism - Caller Guy agrees with the hosts’ overall framing but argues 2026 will be different: Beau Bayh — Evan Bayh’s son — is presumed to be the Democratic nominee for Secretary of State after the June convention, and Guy believes the Bayh name will drive turnout among longtime Democrats and independents. - Guy also points to growing voter disenchantment with Trump’s economic record — gas prices, food prices, farm input costs — as a potential crossover motivator even among some Republicans. - He flags the massive Trump-aligned spending in the Indiana Republican primary as a signal of what’s at stake and notes that money was the mother’s milk of those one-issue anti-redistricting ads. - Rev. Alexander thanks Guy and flags that he’ll address the optimism — and the money — after the break. 00:21:51 — Back from Break: The $13.5 Million Primary Purge - Rev. Alexander reframes Guy’s optimism: the same forces that just spent $13.5 million — up from $250,000 last cycle, a 5,000% increase — to primary redistricting dissenters will not sit out November. - He argues Democrats cannot afford to run on the cheap and need real resources to support candidates, not assume passion alone carries the race. - Pastor Greene calls the spending a naked power play by private backers expecting a return on investment — not party money, but donors who want something specific in exchange. - Both hosts agree it sent a clear message to every Republican officeholder: cross Trump and you’re gone. 00:29:35 — What That Money Is Really Buying - Pastor Greene connects the primary purge directly to the 2027 redistricting cycle: the newly installed MAGA senators in rural districts are safe from Democratic challenge and will vote accordingly when the map comes up again. - He argues Trump funded these candidates specifically because redistricting was coming — the investment was never just about 2026, it was about locking in the 2027 vote. - Listener Gloria comments that campaign finance used to have rules and regulations — Rev. Alexander agrees and says the current environment is the wild, wild west. - Pastor Greene closes the thought: when someone spends that kind of money, they are committed to winning, and that money will be back in November. 00:32:48 — Candidate Visibility and the DNC Investment Question - Listener Jill raises two issues: candidates need to do more retail politics to introduce themselves to voters, and the national Democratic Party isn’t investing enough at the local level. - Rev. Alexander partially agrees but notes this primary season featured more candidate forums than he’s seen before — the problem wasn’t opportunity, it was whether voters showed up. - He also pushes back on the DNC framing: the $13.5 million in Republican ads didn’t come from the party — it came from individual donors making phone calls, and Democrats need to think the same way. - The Republican ads were simple one-issue attacks — “this person voted against redistricting, against Donald Trump” — effective precisely because they were that blunt. 00:36:18 — The Bayh Name Recognition Problem - Rev. Alexander raises a skepticism about the Bayh name that goes further than Guy’s optimism: voters who remember Birch and Evan are aging out, and younger voters and newer Indiana residents have no idea who the Bayhs are. - Pastor Greene fully agrees: the people who know the Bayh name are 40-plus; 20- and 30-year-olds don’t know the family at all, because it’s been over 20 years since Evan Bayh held office. - He warns that assuming name recognition will carry Beau Bayh is a miscalculation — he has to run a real campaign in Marion County, answering the basic voter questions: who is he, what will he do, why should I vote for him. - They both point to Evan Bayh’s own last race as a cautionary tale: a household name who lost because Marion County didn’t turn out at the level he needed. 00:39:33 — Healing the Primary Divide - Rev. Alexander frames the post-primary moment starkly: in this environment, the choice is MAGA or Democrat — there is no third lane — and any further Democratic fracturing is a direct gift to Republicans. - He says it doesn’t matter which candidate you supported in the primary; the entire party is now the concern, and unity is non-negotiable. - Pastor Greene puts it on party leadership: what happens over the summer — the conversations, the planning, the direction-setting — will determine whether Indiana Democrats can capitalize on a potentially favorable national environment. - He contrasts MAGA’s structural advantage — one leader, one message, unified turnout — with the Democratic reality of multiple leaders who must coordinate deliberately rather than following a single signal. 00:42:58 — Know Your Candidates: Voter Research and Campaign Finance - Listener Joseph comments that voters need to verify and trust — do the homework, know the candidates before November. - Rev. Alexander expands on this: for statewide races especially, if you can’t meet the candidate in person, look up their record — how they voted, what they supported, what they said they’d take away. - He argues the campaign finance picture is part of that research: when $13.5 million floods into a primary, people should be asking right then where it came from, not just reporting the number. - Pastor Greene agrees: anyone spending that kind of money is expecting a return on investment, and voters deserve to know what that return is. 00:45:05 — Trump’s Loyalty Demand and the Long Game on Redistricting - Pastor Greene lays out the long-term implication: the Trump-backed candidates who won their rural primaries are essentially in office now — Democrats aren’t beating them in November. - Those five or more new MAGA legislators will be in place for the 2027 redistricting vote, which is exactly what the spending was designed to achieve. - Rev. Alexander adds that Trump has said out loud that judges he appoints should be loyal to him — nobody should be surprised that legislators he funds are equally beholden. - Pastor Greene notes Indiana Senate leadership itself could shift as a result, since the new members tip the internal balance further toward the MAGA faction. 00:47:35 — Door-Knocking vs. Social Media: What Actually Works? - Listener Jill advocates for candidates going old school — events, door-knocking, direct voter contact — and Rev. Alexander asks Pastor Greene to weigh in from his own primary experience. - Pastor Greene says door-knocking has a 10% hit rate at best: safety concerns, ring doorbells, and general reluctance mean only one in ten people will actually open the door. - He says you still have to do it — leaving material and showing you were there matters — but the kitchen-table conversation of the old days is largely gone. - The answer isn’t one silver bullet: you need events, door-knocking, social media, texts, emails, and mailers all at once, and you just hope enough of it lands. 00:50:30 — Closing: Make Your Plan to Vote Now - Rev. Alexander thanks Pastor Greene for his efforts during the primary season and acknowledges there is still a lot of work ahead. - He closes with the same message the show started the year with: don’t wait until November — make your plan to vote now. - He reminds listeners the show replay will be available on the Progressive Indiana Network’s Substack the following morning. - Pastor Greene and Rev. Alexander sign off and wish the audience a blessed week. https://concernedclergy.org [https://concernedclergy.org] https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndyhttps://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy [https://www.facebook.com/ClergyIndy] https://progressiveindiana.net [https://progressiveindiana.net] Progressive Indiana Network is proud to distribute the Concerned Clergy Podcast. Help us continue to bring you more content like this by becoming a free or paid subscriber. 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