The Church Growth Problem Nobody Wants to Talk About

The Church vs The Machine: Why We Must Return to Simplicity, Rest, and Jesus’ Design

What is the church supposed to be in the middle of a complex, fast-moving world? In this season wrap-up conversation, we step back and look at the bigger picture: the global pressures facing the church today and the growing need to return to simplicity, discipleship, and the original design of Jesus. Drawing from Scripture, cultural commentary, and the life and teachings of Jesus, we explore what it means to build communities that are not shaped by systems or “the machine,” but by the presence, authority, and mission of Christ Himself. We talk about: Why modern solutions often fail to bring true transformation The tension between culture, systems, and the Kingdom of God What it looks like to build simple, sustainable, Jesus-centered community Why consecration, rest, and clarity of purpose matter more than complexity The call back to discipleship, hospitality, and Spirit-led community life This is a sobering but hopeful reminder: the church was never meant to be complicated. It was meant to be alive, present, and centered on Jesus. “This is what the Sovereign Lord, the Holy One of Israel, says: “In repentance and rest is your salvation, in quietness and trust is your strength, but you would have none of it.” — Isaiah 30:15  If you’re feeling the tension between culture and calling, this conversation invites you back to what matters most. The 2 or More Podcast is a conversation for lost balls and sleeping giants—followers of Jesus who are hungry for authenticity and to grow in their gifts and calling. Mike Bishop and Joel Henson explore what it looks like to plant sustainable microchurches, build spiritual family, and live out the kingdom of God in your whole life. Instagram: 2ormore_podcast Who is Everyday Mission? We are a people seeking transformation in our everyday lives and in the church. We are a people drawn into the harvest field by love. We are using our unique gifts, talents, and resources to influence the world with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to help equip Everyday Missionaries. Website: https://www.everydaymission.com/ Instagram & TikTok: @EverydayMissionFlorida

How to Start a Microchurch: Finding Your People & Building Real Community

Once you’ve consecrated your space and stepped into what God is calling you to build, the next question becomes: how do you actually find your people? In this conversation, we unpack what it really looks like to form the foundation of a microchurch or kingdom community—starting with a clear invitation, intentional relationships, and the process of discerning who is meant to run alongside you. We talk about the difference between simply opening your home and actually building a defined, purposeful space for discipleship, healing, and spiritual growth. From early gatherings to core team formation, this is where real community begins. If you're feeling called to start something in your home, ministry, or community—this is the practical and spiritual framework for how it begins. Topics covered: Finding your core people Building a microchurch foundation Why clear invitation matters Hospitality as spiritual formation Creating intentional kingdom community The 2 or More Podcast is a conversation for lost balls and sleeping giants—followers of Jesus who are hungry for authenticity and to grow in their gifts and calling. Mike Bishop and Joel Henson explore what it looks like to plant sustainable microchurches, build spiritual family, and live out the kingdom of God in your whole life. Instagram: 2ormore_podcast Who is Everyday Mission? We are a people seeking transformation in our everyday lives and in the church. We are a people drawn into the harvest field by love. We are using our unique gifts, talents, and resources to influence the world with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to help equip Everyday Missionaries. Website: https://www.everydaymission.com/ Instagram & TikTok: @EverydayMissionFlorida

Home Churches, Hospitality & Hosting the Holy Spirit | Practical + Spiritual Keys

What does it actually look like to cultivate a home filled with the presence of God? In this conversation, we talk about hospitality, consecrating your space, creating intentional community, and why spiritual renewal requires more than inspiration alone. From practical decisions about your home to prayer, worship, intimacy with God, and gathering around the table, this episode explores how ordinary spaces can become places of healing, discipleship, and encounter. Real renewal follows a pattern—but most people skip the hardest part. We walk through why lasting change feels so rare and what it actually requires. Whether you’re leading a microchurch, hosting dinners with friends, building a Christ-centered marriage, or simply longing for deeper community, this conversation will encourage you to start with what you already have and invite God into it. The 2 or More Podcast is a conversation for lost balls and sleeping giants—followers of Jesus who are hungry for authenticity and to grow in their gifts and calling. Mike Bishop and Joel Henson explore what it looks like to plant sustainable microchurches, build spiritual family, and live out the kingdom of God in your whole life. Instagram: 2ormore_podcast Who is Everyday Mission? We are a people seeking transformation in our everyday lives and in the church. We are a people drawn into the harvest field by love. We are using our unique gifts, talents, and resources to influence the world with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to help equip Everyday Missionaries. Website: https://www.everydaymission.com/ Instagram & TikTok: @EverydayMissionFlorida

The Church Growth Problem Nobody Wants to Talk About

Big churches. Packed rooms. Endless content. Yet many believers still feel spiritually disconnected, exhausted, and unseen. In this episode of the 2 or More Podcast, we dive into the deeper issue many churches and leaders are facing today: the difference between gathering crowds and forming disciples. We explore identity in Christ, healthy leadership, sacred space, discipleship, microchurches, hospitality, spiritual formation, and why authentic Kingdom ministry often begins in much smaller, more intentional ways than we expect. This conversation is for anyone wrestling with calling, church culture, burnout, leadership, or the longing for deeper community and transformation rooted in the presence of God — not performance, platforms, or striving. Topics covered: • Identity before ministry • Healthy church leadership • Microchurch & home church culture • Spiritual formation & discipleship • Building ministry without striving • Sacred space & hospitality • Kingdom community & authentic faith • Starting small in obedience The 2 or More Podcast is a conversation for lost balls and sleeping giants—followers of Jesus who are hungry for authenticity and to grow in their gifts and calling. Mike Bishop and Joel Henson explore what it looks like to plant sustainable microchurches, build spiritual family, and live out the kingdom of God in your whole life. Instagram: 2ormore_podcast Who is Everyday Mission? We are a people seeking transformation in our everyday lives and in the church. We are a people drawn into the harvest field by love. We are using our unique gifts, talents, and resources to influence the world with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to help equip Everyday Missionaries. Website: https://www.everydaymission.com/ Instagram & TikTok: @EverydayMissionFlorida

Stop Waiting for a Platform—You’re Already Called (The Truth About Ministry & Identity)

So many believers disqualify themselves with one phrase: “I’m not a pastor.” But what if that belief is actually keeping you from stepping into your God-given calling? In this episode, we unpack what it really means to live as a disciple of Jesus—beyond titles, platforms, and traditional church roles. Through a powerful, real-life story, we explore how God calls ordinary people into meaningful ministry right where they are. This conversation dives into: What it actually means to be “called” by God Why you don’t need a title to walk in spiritual authority The difference between platform-driven ministry and faithful obedience How to discern your unique calling and take your next step Why the future of the Church may look more like everyday people living on mission If you’ve ever felt unqualified, overlooked, or unsure of where you fit in the Body of Christ—this is for you. You don’t need permission. You don’t need a platform. You just need to be faithful with what God has already placed in your hands. The 2 or More Podcast is a conversation for lost balls and sleeping giants—followers of Jesus who are hungry for authenticity and to grow in their gifts and calling. Mike Bishop and Joel Henson explore what it looks like to plant sustainable microchurches, build spiritual family, and live out the kingdom of God in your whole life. Instagram: 2ormore_podcast Who is Everyday Mission? We are a people seeking transformation in our everyday lives and in the church. We are a people drawn into the harvest field by love. We are using our unique gifts, talents, and resources to influence the world with the Gospel of Jesus Christ and to help equip Everyday Missionaries. Website: https://www.everydaymission.com/ Instagram & TikTok: @EverydayMissionFlorida