#39 Why Working Harder Keeps You Broke | Jess Phillips

#41 People Buy Trust, Not Marketing | Tannen Bodell

Real estate investing, authentic content, personal branding, business relationships, client trust, and entrepreneurship—Tannen Bodell explains why genuine human connection is becoming the biggest competitive advantage in business. In this episode of Based Business, Parker McCumber sits down with real estate agent and investor Tannen Bodell to discuss why authentic relationships, local content, and trust-based marketing outperform generic AI-generated content. With over 20 years in real estate, Tannen shares how he moved from appraisal into sales, built a successful real estate business through relationships, and helps clients make smarter investment decisions by focusing on long-term wealth creation rather than short-term wins. His biggest insight? 👉 In a world flooded with AI content, authenticity is becoming more valuable than ever. 💡 In this episode, you'll learn: • Why authentic content outperforms generic marketing • How to build trust in an AI-driven world • The real reason people choose one real estate agent over another • How storytelling helps grow your business • Why simplifying your systems helps you scale • The CAPT framework for evaluating real estate investments • How investors build wealth beyond cash flow • Why coaching principles apply directly to entrepreneurship • How to create community-focused content that gets attention 🚀 Who this episode is for: • Entrepreneurs looking to build trust and authority • Real estate agents wanting better content strategies • Investors interested in long-term wealth building • Business owners trying to stand out in a crowded market • Parents thinking about legacy and generational impact 🔗 Connect with Tannen Bodell: 🌐 Website: bodellrealestate.com 📸 Instagram: @tannenb ⏱️ TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Grace and Purpose 00:27 Why Connection Matters 01:01 Tannen's Real Estate Origin Story 02:49 Coaching Football and Business Lessons 05:42 Lessons From High School Coaching 09:28 Keep It Simple to Scale 13:23 Finding Your Why 17:23 Authentic Content Strategy 22:33 Local Market Storytelling 27:07 Dream Clients and Real Estate Investors 29:38 Cash Flow vs Net Worth 30:58 The CAPT Investing Framework 32:57 Home Buying Mindset Shifts 33:49 Financial Freedom Dreams 34:51 Trust Funds and Letting Go 36:41 Teaching Kids Work Ethic 38:29 Building Wealth From Scratch 42:34 Legacy and Being Overshadowed 47:56 YouTube Censorship Discussion 48:57 Coaching and Sportsmanship Lessons 53:34 Real Estate Client Red Flags 57:19 Grassroots Business Growth 59:13 Mission Ready Mastermind & Wrap Up #realestate #entrepreneurship #realestateinvesting #contentmarketing #personalbranding

#40 How Adam King Scaled a Multi-Million Dollar Business Without a Backup Plan

If you’re stuck working IN your business instead of scaling it, this episode is for you. Adam King (“The Caulk King”) breaks down leadership, systems, hiring, SOPs, branding, entrepreneurship, business growth, and how he built a multi-million dollar company through relationships and relentless execution. In this episode of Based Business, Parker McCumber interviews Adam King, owner of Bonneville Caulking & Waterproofing, about scaling a construction business, overcoming entrepreneurial bottlenecks, building systems, and becoming a true business owner instead of just an operator. Adam shares: • How he started his company with no backup plan • The relationship strategy that fueled massive growth • Why most entrepreneurs stay stuck • The importance of SOPs, hiring, and delegation • Lessons from losing a major client to bankruptcy • How branding helped him stand out in construction • The mindset required to scale a business successfully This episode is packed with practical advice for entrepreneurs, founders, contractors, business owners, and anyone trying to grow a company without burning out. Topics Covered: Entrepreneurship, business growth, scaling a business, leadership, systems, SOPs, hiring employees, delegation, branding, construction business, founder mindset, commercial construction, sales, networking, resilience, operations, and wealth creation. Subscribe for more conversations with elite entrepreneurs, founders, creators, and operators building real businesses. 🔗 Connect with Adam King: 🌐 Bonneville Caulking & Waterproofing 📸 Instagram: @thecaulkking 💼 LinkedIn: Adam King 📘 Facebook: Bonneville Caulking & Waterproofing 00:00 People Systems Scale 00:24 Meet Adam The Caulk King 01:43 Lean Into The Brand 03:50 Backstory No Plan B 07:02 Supportive Spouses And Going All In 10:29 Childhood Roots And Finding Mentors 12:23 Communities That Raise Your Game 15:05 Rejection Volume And Relationship Building 18:39 Networking Shift And Contractor Collapse Lesson 23:15 Scale Faster With Team And Systems 28:08 Meetings After Action Reviews Improvement 29:47 Entrepreneurship As Self Development 33:23 Parker Superpower Tenacity Story 39:03 Refusing to Quit 40:38 Pregnancy Changes Focus 41:09 KPIs and Meta Ads 42:32 Base Hits Not Home Runs 44:29 Success and Resentment 47:36 Outgrowing Old Friends 53:39 Building Career Paths 58:24 Incentives and Innovation 59:31 Keeping Spouses Onboard 01:02:20 First Hire Lessons 01:05:41 Hiring Your Weaknesses 01:06:32 Rainmaker Triad Explained 01:11:09 Trust and Delegation 01:13:59 Right People Right Roles 01:14:25 Hiring With Challenges 01:16:22 Coaching And Boundaries 01:18:22 Relationship Driven Growth 01:20:41 Social Media Debate 01:26:23 Deepening The Bench 01:28:34 Why He Does It 01:35:14 Authority Engine Framework 01:36:21 Build In Public 01:45:00 Story And Wrap Up #Entrepreneurship #BusinessGrowth #Leadership #ScalingABusiness #BusinessPodcast #FounderMindset #ConstructionBusiness #SmallBusiness #Entrepreneur #BasedBusiness

#39 Why Working Harder Keeps You Broke | Jess Phillips

Entrepreneur mindset, financial freedom, business growth, wealth building, scaling a business—Jess Phillips explains why grinding harder may actually be holding you back. In this episode of Based Business, Jess Phillips shares how relying purely on logic, hustle, and constant grinding can become a weakness for entrepreneurs—and why intuition, mentorship, and opportunity recognition matter more than most people realize. After rebuilding his confidence through sales at Verizon, Jess learned “wealth thinking” from billionaire clients and helped pioneer one of the first solar loan structures before buying and scaling Temporary Power Services from roughly $300K in revenue to over $2M in profit. But his biggest insight? 👉 Most entrepreneurs don’t need to work harder… they need to think differently. 💡 In this episode, you’ll learn: * Why overworking can actually slow business growth * How wealthy people think differently about opportunities * Why trusting your gut matters in entrepreneurship * The “Rainmaker Triad” framework for partnerships * How Jess scaled a company to multi-million-dollar profits * Why fun is a powerful indicator for business alignment * How mentorship and coaching accelerate success * The mindset shifts required to build financial freedom * What Freedom Reserves is and how it helps accredited investors preserve liquidity 🚀 Who this is for: * Entrepreneurs feeling burned out or stuck * Business owners trying to scale sustainably * High performers trapped in hustle culture * Investors interested in cash management and financial freedom * Anyone looking to grow wealth without sacrificing their life 🔗 Connect with Jess Phillips: 🌐 Freedomreserves.com 📸 Instagram: @jessphillips 💼 LinkedIn: Jess Phillips ⏱️ EPISODE TIMELINE — Based Business with Jess Phillips   00:00 — Why Logic Alone Can Destroy Your Success  02:05 — Meet Jess Phillips & Freedom Reserves  04:20 — The Temporary Power Services Acquisition  07:10 — Buying a Business With Limited Resources  10:45 — Early Entrepreneurial Mistakes & Setbacks  14:18 — Rebuilding Confidence Through Verizon Sales  18:02 — Why Sales Skills Change Your Entire Life  21:30 — The Difference Between Rich Thinking & Poor Thinking  25:12 — Learning Wealth Principles From Billionaire Clients  29:44 — The Solar Finance Opportunity That Changed Everything  34:06 — Creating One of the First Solar Loan Structures  38:15 — Gut Instinct vs Data-Driven Decisions  42:11 — When Hustle Becomes a Weakness  46:08 — The Hidden Dangers of Overworking  50:24 — Entrepreneurs Build Their Own Prison  55:40 — Freedom vs Achievement  58:02 — Why External Validation Is a Trap  01:01:33 — Scaling Temporary Power Services to Multi-Million Profit  01:06:18 — Creating New Revenue Verticals  01:10:47 — How to Scale Without Starting Over  01:14:02 — “If It’s Not Fun, I’m Going Home”  01:18:30 — The Full Body Yes Philosophy  01:22:16 — Burnout, Alignment & Enjoying the Process  01:26:05 — The Rainmaker Triad Explained  01:31:12 — Partnerships & Building Winning Teams  01:35:24 — Mentorship, Coaching & Seeing Opportunities  01:39:18 — The Entrepreneur Identity Trap  01:43:40 — What Freedom Actually Means  01:46:12 — Building Wealth Without Losing Yourself  01:49:02 — How Freedom Reserves Works  01:52:15 — Accredited Investors & Cash Management  01:54:40 — 1031 Exchanges, Liquidity & Yield  01:56:48 — Final Advice for Entrepreneurs  01:58:28 — Outro #entrepreneurship #financialfreedom #wealthmindset #businessgrowth #mindset

#38 Funnels Don’t Work Like They Used To (Here’s Why) with Lisanne Murphy

Marketing strategy, Facebook ads, business growth, content marketing, entrepreneur mindset—Lisanne Murphy explains why modern marketing is broken and what actually works now. In this episode of Based Business, Lisanne Murphy shares how she went from studying food science and public administration to building a successful marketing agency, growth lab, and podcast focused on helping entrepreneurs scale with trust-based marketing. After teaching herself Facebook ads while working at Deseret Book, Lisanne built an agency during the rise of social media marketing—but says everything changed after iOS14, increased saturation, and declining consumer trust. Her biggest insight? 👉 Most businesses don’t have a traffic problem… they have a trust, messaging, and positioning problem 💡 In this episode, you’ll learn: * Why Facebook ads and funnels don’t work like they used to * The new rules of marketing after iOS14 * Why trust-based marketing beats “growth hacks” * How to identify hidden revenue leaks in your business * Why most entrepreneurs niche incorrectly * How psychological pain-based messaging increases conversions * Why organic content + paid ads work better together * How to build a scalable content engine * The difference between selling what people want vs what they need 🚀 Who this is for: * Entrepreneurs struggling to grow online * Coaches, creators, and agency owners * Businesses frustrated with declining ad performance * Founders trying to improve messaging and positioning * High achievers questioning fulfillment and legacy 🔗 Connect with Lisanne Murphy: 🌐 Learn More / Work with Lisanne: Lumina Growth Lab  🎙️ Podcast: The Marketing Matrix  📸 Instagram: @lisannemurphyhq ⏱️ Timestamps 00:00 Meet Lisanne Murphy 00:25 Growth Lab Origins 01:46 Mastermind Connection 04:48 Entrepreneurship Reality Check 07:19 Holy Grail Debate 08:45 Money Versus Fulfillment 10:33 Family Roots And Boxes 14:54 Legacy And Selfishness 15:47 Parker Legacy Fears 22:30 Franklin Genius Stories 28:06 Defining Legacy 33:35 Faith And Business Drive 38:17 Service And Self Care 42:27 Entrepreneurial Beginnings 44:30 College Mission Pivot 46:14 MPA Meets OBHR 47:42 PhD Plans and Life Callings 48:38 Deseret Book Marketing Detour 53:05 Learning Facebook Ads Fast 55:13 Agency Born From Side Hustles 58:35 Facebook Ads Then vs Now 01:04:16 Organic Content and Trust 01:12:21 Follower Growth Trap 01:18:54 Niche Down Without Limiting 01:24:24 Psychological Pain Niching 01:27:12 Why Funnels Fail 01:28:05 Find Pain Language 01:29:56 Ads Research Pattern 01:31:34 Selling Leadership Help 01:32:42 Red Cross Rant 01:35:56 Coaching With Mandy 01:38:25 Sell Wants Give Needs 01:42:40 Message Symptoms Not Roots 01:47:40 Military Leadership Systems 01:51:52 Content Engine Strategy 01:55:22 Platform Fit And Repurpose 01:57:25 Pick One Platform 02:03:29 LinkedIn And TikTok Issues 02:08:07 TikTok Shadowban Spiral 02:09:16 Addiction and Boundaries 02:10:19 iOS14 Agency Wakeup Call 02:11:54 Choosing Travel Over Hustle 02:14:22 Monastery and Mindfulness 02:17:12 Japan and Host Travel Tales 02:22:09 Why Buddhism Resonated 02:25:33 Funding Travel Break Even 02:27:42 Travel Lessons for Leadership 02:33:29 Trust Systems to Delegate 02:36:54 Building Teams and Mentorship 02:44:07 Messaging Niche and Wrap Up #marketingstrategy #facebookads #businessgrowth #entrepreneurship #contentmarketing

#37 The Real Cost of Starting a Business with Andrew Barnes

Entrepreneurship reality, starting a business, small business risk, opportunity cost, how to start a business—Andrew Barnes shares what it really takes. In this episode of Based Business, Andrew Barnes breaks down the truth about entrepreneurship—from risk and opportunity cost to building a real business while supporting a family. Andrew, founder of Winter Print, shares how he went from working in a lumber company to launching a print brokerage—and eventually opening a full commercial print shop. But his biggest insight? 👉 Entrepreneurship isn’t about freedom… it’s about risk, responsibility, and how much you’re willing to lose 💡 In this episode, you’ll learn: * The real risks of starting a business (beyond money) * How to think about opportunity cost and long-term tradeoffs * Why the “entrepreneurship = freedom” narrative is misleading * How to start small and validate before scaling * What commercial printing actually is (and how it works) * Lessons from transitioning from brokerage to ownership * Hiring mistakes and how to build the right team * How to grow a business while supporting a family 🚀 Who this is for: * People thinking about starting a business * Entrepreneurs feeling overwhelmed or uncertain * Founders balancing risk, family, and income * Anyone who wants a realistic view of entrepreneurship 🔗 Connect with Andrew Barnes: *  Website: WinterPrintUtah.com  *  Instagram: @winter_print_  *  Facebook: Winter Print 🎙️ FULL PODCAST TIMELINE (1:06:21) 00:00 Introduction & What Entrepreneurship Really Looks Like  02:15 Why “It’s Not All Sunshine and Rainbows”  05:40 The Early Struggles Nobody Talks About  09:10 Long Hours, Burnout & Sacrifice  13:25 Financial Stress & Risk Taking  17:50 Why Most People Quit Too Early  21:30 Learning Through Failure  25:05 The Turning Point Moment  29:40 Building Momentum in Business  33:15 Discipline vs Motivation  37:00 The Mental Game of Entrepreneurship  41:10 Handling Pressure & Uncertainty  45:20 The Hidden Costs of Ownership  49:30 What Success Actually Feels Like  53:10 Why It’s Still Worth It  57:00 Advice for New Entrepreneurs  01:00:10 Final Thoughts & Mindset Shift  01:03:30 Closing & Key Takeaways #entrepreneurship #smallbusiness #businessgrowth #startabusiness #entrepreneurlife