What Makes You Say That? The Power of Curiosity in Conflict

You’re Not Lost… You’re Just Not Listening Yet

What if the answers you’ve been searching for… are already within you? In this episode of Becoming is Messy, Meghann sits down with Debra Martin—energy healer, intuitive practitioner, and teacher—to explore what it really means to trust your inner voice. Together, they unpack the connection between emotional, physical, and energetic well-being, and how learning to listen inward can shift the way we navigate uncertainty, fear, and healing. Debra shares her own deeply personal journey through loss, illness, near-death experiences, and transformation—and how each chapter strengthened her ability to trust, surrender, and align with something greater. In this conversation, they explore: * How to recognize when you’re out of alignment * The difference between anxiety and inner knowing * Why fear disconnects us from our truth—and how to move through it * Simple, grounded ways to reconnect with yourself * The power of surrender, trust, and letting love lead This episode is both deeply intuitive and incredibly practical—an invitation to slow down, listen, and begin rebuilding trust with yourself. Because your inner voice isn’t something you have to find. It’s something you begin to hear when you finally pause. 🔗 Links & Resources ✨ Join the Messy community on Instagram: @BecomingIsMessy ✨ Follow Meghann for more real, raw, and messy wisdom: @MeghannDawson ✨ Explore coaching, workshops & more: www.meghanndawson.com [http://www.meghanndawson.com] (sign up for Meghann's Messy Middle email) ✨ Shop the Messy Collection: www.meghanndawson.com/shop [http://www.meghanndawson.com/shop] 🌿 Connect with Debra Martin: * https://debramartinhealer.com/ [https://debramartinhealer.com/] * Debra hosts a free monthly Zoom gathering called "Army for Love" * A safe space for people to share what they’re going through * Includes a collective healing session at the end 💛 Loved this episode? Hit follow, leave a review, and share it with a fellow Messy who needs to hear it! #BecomingIsMessy #LetYourInnerVoiceLead #ImperfectLEVELUP #ConversationalAlchemy #InnerKnowing #EnergyHealing #SelfTrust #EmotionalAwareness #MindBodyConnection #MessyMiddle #HealingJourney #UnscriptedGrowth Get full access to The Unperfect Life at theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe [https://theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Money, Freedom, and the Stories We Inherited

What if your relationship with money isn’t actually yours? In this episode of Becoming is Messy, Meghann sits down with Mark Willis—a Certified Financial Planner™, three-time #1 bestselling author, and owner of Lake Growth Financial Services—to explore the powerful connection between money, freedom, and the stories we’ve inherited over time. After graduating with six figures of student loan debt and witnessing the financial fallout of the 2008 crisis, Mark began questioning the conventional advice so many of us were taught to follow. That curiosity led him to a different approach—one centered on control, clarity, and long-term financial freedom. Together, they unpack: * How our earliest experiences shape the way we think about money * The question that can shift everything: “Who taught you that?” * Why many financial beliefs go unexamined for a lifetime * The relationship between money, time, and personal freedom * The difference between saving money and designing it to work for you * How to begin thinking differently about your financial future This conversation is an invitation to step back and examine the narratives you’ve been living by. Because when you understand the story… you can decide whether to keep it. 🔗 Links & Resources ✨ Join the Messy community on Instagram: @BecomingIsMessy ✨ Follow Meghann for more real, raw, and messy wisdom: @MeghannDawson ✨ Explore coaching, workshops & more: www.meghanndawson.com [http://www.meghanndawson.com] (sign up for Meghann's Messy Middle email) ✨ Shop the Messy Collection: www.meghanndawson.com/shop [http://www.meghanndawson.com/shop] 🌿 Connect with Mark Willis: * https://lakegrowth.com/ [https://lakegrowth.com/] 💛 Loved this episode? Hit follow, leave a review, and share it with a fellow Messy who needs to hear it! #BecomingIsMessy #LetYourInnerVoiceLead #ImperfectLEVELUP #ConversationalAlchemy #MoneyMindset #FinancialFreedom #HumanBehavior #PersonalTransformation #MindBodyConnection #MessyMiddle #WealthWisdom #UnscriptedGrowth Get full access to The Unperfect Life at theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe [https://theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

From Inner Work to Real Life: When It Finally Lands

You’ve done the work. The therapy. The journaling. The healing. The breakthroughs. So why doesn’t your life fully reflect it yet? In this episode of Becoming is Messy, Meghann sits down with Nicole Frolick—an advanced mystic, transformational healer, and intuitive coach known for her work in collapsing time around transformation and helping clients move from insight into real, embodied results. Through her frameworks like the Healing Exit Strategy and the Velocity Point Method, Nicole blends deep intuitive work with grounded strategy to help people shift not just how they think—but how they live. Together, they explore the moment so many people quietly find themselves in—the space between awareness and embodiment. The space where you’re no longer who you used to be… but you’re not fully living your next level yet. In this conversation, they unpack what it actually takes for inner work to land in real life: * Why awareness alone isn’t enough * The shift from doing the work to becoming the person * How identity—not effort—creates lasting change * Why expansion often feels like everything is falling apart * The difference between calling something in and being able to hold it This episode is an invitation to trust the in-between. Because that space? It’s not stuck. It’s where everything is recalibrating. And when it finally lands…nothing feels the same. 🔗 Links & Resources ✨ Join the Messy community on Instagram: @BecomingIsMessy ✨ Follow Meghann for more real, raw, and messy wisdom: @MeghannDawson ✨ Explore coaching, workshops & more: www.meghanndawson.com [http://www.meghanndawson.com] (sign up for Meghann's Messy Middle email) ✨ Shop the Messy Collection: www.meghanndawson.com/shop [http://www.meghanndawson.com/shop] 🌿 Connect with Nicole Frolick: * https://nicolefrolick.com/ [https://nicolefrolick.com/] 💛 Loved this episode? Hit follow, leave a review, and share it with a fellow Messy who needs to hear it! #BecomingIsMessy #ExamineYourChildhood #ImperfectLEVELUP #ConversationalAlchemy #EmbodiedTransformation #IdentityShift #ExpansionSeason #QuantumLeap #MindBodyConnection #MessyMiddle #HealingJourney #UnscriptedGrowth Get full access to The Unperfect Life at theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe [https://theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

What Makes You Say That? The Power of Curiosity in Conflict

What if one simple question could completely change the way you handle conflict? In this episode of Becoming is Messy, Meghann sits down with Elena Sophia Ruiz—human behavior expert, negotiator, and founder of multiple successful HR and leadership organizations—to explore how curiosity can transform the way we communicate, lead, and relate. At the center of this conversation is a deceptively simple question: “What makes you say that?” Instead of reacting, defending, or escalating, this question creates space—for understanding, clarity, and connection. Together, Meghann and Elena unpack: * Why most conflict isn’t about the moment—it’s about the pattern beneath it * How curiosity interrupts emotional reactivity * The danger of labels and the power of focusing on facts * How early conditioning shapes the way we communicate as adults * What it really means to respond instead of react This episode is an invitation to pause, get curious, and start seeing your interactions—and yourself—through a completely different lens. Because when you shift from reaction to curiosity, everything changes. 🔗 Links & Resources ✨ Join the Messy community on Instagram: @BecomingIsMessy ✨ Follow Meghann for more real, raw, and messy wisdom: @MeghannDawson ✨ Explore coaching, workshops & more: www.meghanndawson.com [http://www.meghanndawson.com] (sign up for Meghann's Messy Middle email) ✨ Shop the Messy Collection: www.meghanndawson.com/shop [http://www.meghanndawson.com/shop] 🌿 Connect with Elena Sophia Ruiz: * https://www.intimateconversationswithmen.com/ [https://www.intimateconversationswithmen.com/] 💛 Loved this episode? Hit follow, leave a review, and share it with a fellow Messy who needs to hear it! #BecomingIsMessy #ExamineYourChildhood #ImperfectLEVELUP #ConversationalAlchemy #CuriosityOverReaction #HumanBehavior #ConsciousCommunication #EmotionalAwareness #PatternRecognition #MindBodyConnection #MessyMiddle #UnscriptedGrowth Get full access to The Unperfect Life at theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe [https://theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]

Messy but Mindful: How Hypnotherapy Helps Us Navigate Growth

What if the transformation you’ve been searching for doesn’t require more effort, more fixing, or more explaining—but more listening? In this episode of Becoming is Messy, Meghann sits down with master hypnotherapist and teacher Steve Roehm for a grounded, eye-opening conversation about intuition, subconscious change, and the quiet power of presence. Together, they explore how many of our limits are shaped by unconscious beliefs formed long ago—and how real change can happen quickly when we learn to work with the mind instead of against it. Steve challenges common misconceptions about hypnosis, therapy, and personal growth, revealing how language, perception, and moment-to-moment awareness shape our reality. This conversation invites listeners to step out of rigid scripts, reconnect with their inner voice, and rediscover the freedom that comes from trusting themselves again. This episode is a powerful reminder that becoming isn’t about force—it’s about alignment, curiosity, and letting your inner wisdom lead. In this episode, you’ll discover: * How to embrace the messiness of personal growth and transformation instead of resisting it. * Ways to access wisdom and clarity beneath the daily noise and distractions of life. * The importance of presence and intuition as guiding forces during moments of change. * Why lasting transformation doesn’t require dramatic theatrics, but honest, unscripted curiosity and openness. * How listening to your inner voice can lead you toward the shifts and growth you’re truly seeking. * The role of hypnotherapy as a gentle tool for navigating internal chaos and fostering self-trust. * Encouragement to view life’s winding journey as a source of strength, wisdom, and ongoing self-discovery. 🔗 Links & Resources ✨ Join the Messy community on Instagram: @BecomingIsMessy ✨ Follow Meghann for more real, raw, and messy wisdom: @MeghannDawson ✨ Explore coaching, workshops & more: www.meghanndawson.com [http://www.meghanndawson.com] (sign up for Meghann's Messy Middle email) ✨ Shop the Messy Collection: www.meghanndawson.com/shop [http://www.meghanndawson.com/shop] 🌿 Connect with Steve Roehm: * https://nashvillehypnosis.com/ [https://nashvillehypnosis.com/] 💛 Loved this episode? Hit follow, leave a review, and share it with a fellow Messy who needs to hear it! #BecomingIsMessy #LetYourInnerVoiceLead #ImperfectLEVELUP #ConversationalAlchemy #SubconsciousChange #IntuitiveHealing #PersonalTransformation #TrustYourIntuition #MindBodyConnection #MessyMiddle #HealingJourney #UnscriptedGrowth Get full access to The Unperfect Life at theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe [https://theunperfectlife.substack.com/subscribe?utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=CTA_4]