Between Two Brunettes
Canadian businesses have spent decades overpaying for banking that barely works. High fees on basic transactions, in-branch visits to send a wire, FX rates that quietly drain margin, and a system that wasn’t designed with small businesses in mind. Ahmed Shafik watched all of this up close as one of the first employees to launch Revolut in Canada. When the expansion stalled, he and co-founder Saud Aziz didn't go back to corporate. They spent two years building the infrastructure they knew Canada was missing, then launched Venn in 2023. Two years later, more than 10,000 businesses are on the platform and the company has closed a $21.5 million Series A. In this conversation, we unpack why Canada is harder to build a fintech in than anywhere else, why that difficulty is actually the opportunity, and what it takes to raise a round in 20 days when you have spent years building the relationship before you ever need the money. He discusses: * Why Canada's five-bank oligopoly controls roughly 90% of assets and what that means for small businesses trying to compete globally * The infrastructure Venn had to build from scratch because nothing on the market supported multi-currency at the level they needed * How they went from begging their parents to test the product to 10,000 businesses on the platform through cold outreach, word of mouth, and content * The decision to go majority US investors early on and what that revealed about risk appetite on both sides of the border * Why Venn moved to fully in-office nine months ago and what changed when they did * How equity is still a foreign concept to most Canadian startup employees and what founders should be doing differently * What his immigrant background has to do with the way he thinks about risk, sacrifice, and building something from nothing ___ CHAPTERS * 00:00:00 Early Life and Moving to Canada * 00:03:22 Finding the Right Path * 00:05:23 Joining Revolut: Learning the Fintech Playbook * 00:06:51 Solving Canadian Business Banking * 00:08:30 Building in Silence: Two Years of Infrastructure Development * 00:10:44 Canada as the Real Fintech Battleground * 00:16:04 The In-Office Culture: Why Venn Chose Five Days a Week * 00:18:55 Scaling Customer Acquisition * 00:21:20 Building a Team of 20 High Performers * 00:23:29 Equity, Incentives, and Retention: Keeping Top Talent Bought In * 00:38:54 Raising .5M in 20 Days and The Power of Relationships * 00:42:49 US vs Canada VCs: Risk Appetite and Market Understanding * 00:53:23 Building Without Validation * 00:53:10 Advice for Aspiring Founders * 01:04:27 The Immigrant Advantage: Minimizing Regret and Maximizing Opportunity * 01:02:57 14-Hour Days and What it Takes to Build * 01:05:59 Future Vision, Giving Back, and What's Next ___ Between Two Brunettes Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@betweentwobrunettes [https://www.youtube.com/@betweentwobrunettes] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/betweentwobrunettes [https://www.instagram.com/betweentwobrunettes/] Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@betweentwobrunettes [https://www.tiktok.com/@betweentwobrunettes] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/betweentwobrunettes [https://www.linkedin.com/company/betweentwobrunettes] X: https://x.com/twobrunettespod [https://x.com/twobrunettespod] Samantha Miller Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/samanthaj_miller [https://www.instagram.com/samanthaj_miller] Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@samanthaj_miller [https://www.tiktok.com/@samanthaj_miller] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthamiller111 [https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthamiller111] X: https://x.com/samantha_btbpod [https://x.com/samantha_btbpod] Germana Kazazi Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/germanakazazi [https://www.instagram.com/germanakazazi] Tiktok:https://www.tiktok.com/@germanakazazi [https://www.tiktok.com/@germanakazazi] LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/germana-kazazi [https://www.linkedin.com/in/germana-kazazi/] X: https://x.com/GermanaKazazi [https://x.com/GermanaKazazi] Ahmed Shafik LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shafikahmed [https://www.linkedin.com/in/shafikahmed] X: https://x.com/a_shafik [https://x.com/a_shafik] Venn LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/vennca [https://www.linkedin.com/company/vennca] X: https://x.com/venncanada [https://x.com/venncanada] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/venn.ca [https://www.instagram.com/venn.ca] ___ Produced by Thirty Two Media Inc.
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