The Boys

Finding Our Community

Season One, Episode Four “Finding Our Community” 00:46 So a lot’s been happening in both fandoms... and we got concert tickets! 02:48 Let’s talk about the community we’re connecting with at these concerts 03:47 How we ended up in the World’s Greatest Group Chats 06:57 The value of finding people who want to talk Boybands with you... at any time day or night 09:10 The wider community (particularly Bluesky) and how it’s been good for Muse’s mental health 10:51 You think the guys know that they gave us this awesome community? 11:49 The hailstorm at Louis’ Red Rocks concert and how fans came together to help 12:50 How ARMY charts songs to send a message 14:19 Concerts and ticketing and how we help one another 15:06 Fan charity drives 16:17 Smaller fan projects that mean the world – flowers and daily accounts 17:09 The nastier side of social media (and why we avoid Twitter) 19:10 Concert Freebies! What are they? 20:31 The phenomenon photocards and Muse talks about what the heck “boypaper” is 21:28 Concert fits and what we are planning 22:03 Fan projects, Kpop light sticks, and ARMY sign time 24:32 One Direction fan projects and how Carrie participated in one 26:45 How fan projects and freebies make concerts more fun 29:00 Rallying behind streaming and voting for our guys (we are so sunk for these men) 30:15 Boy of the Week: Kim Seokjin! 38:17 Show closing and social media Additional notes, memes and music: A short video on what an ARMY bomb (The BTS light stick) looks like: https://youtube.com/shorts/oUjapFTe1RQ [https://youtube.com/shorts/oUjapFTe1RQ] Here’s the fan project Carrie helped with at Louis’ “Faith in the Future” show in Toronto: https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS9dmrSvU/ [https://vt.tiktok.com/ZS9dmrSvU/] If you’re interested in joining a fan project at Louis’ upcoming tour, we found this listing. Find the show in your area: https://louis-fan-projects-h-pymv.glide.page/dl/cf772b?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio [https://louis-fan-projects-h-pymv.glide.page/dl/cf772b?utm_source=ig&utm_medium=social&utm_content=link_in_bio] ARMY charity drives – you can donate online to local charities for US tour stops here: https://arirangfoodbankproject.carrd.co/ [https://arirangfoodbankproject.carrd.co/] Watch Jin do his famous “Worldwide Handsome” intro on the Graham Norton show: https://youtu.be/wBEu2Tmy_L4?si=MOdW6ezA7lpo6j5m&t=42 [https://youtu.be/wBEu2Tmy_L4?si=MOdW6ezA7lpo6j5m&t=42] Here’s Jin’s performance of “The Astronaut” with Coldplay in Buenos Aries: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqmYc62HUec [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqmYc62HUec] Don’t miss Chris Martin’s beautiful introduction: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIQDaeNkVOM [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIQDaeNkVOM] And if you’re curious about Jin’s variety show, here’s Muse’s (current) favourite episode https://youtu.be/EzJaR8QL0q4 [https://youtu.be/EzJaR8QL0q4] Songs we mention: “Aperture” by Harry Styles “Die for Me” by Zayn Malik “Nuts” by RM “Please Don't Change” by Jungkook “Sunflowers” by Louis Tomlinson “Saturdays” by Louis Tomlinson “I Will Come To You” by Jin “The Astronaut” by Jin Listen to our Season 1 Playlist ...on Youtube Music here: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y [https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y] ...on Tidal here: https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765 [https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765] ...on Apple Music here: https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK [https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK] Our Contact Information: E-mail: bffsandboybands@gmail.com Bluesky: @bffsandboybands.bsky.social Show Credits BFFs and Boybands is brought to you by your hosts: Carrie and Muse BFFs and Boybands Logo and branding is by Megan Berry and Jeff Leblanc Our Theme song is “Light Summer Pop” by SingleFX via Audio Jungle https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454 [https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454]  The “Boy of the Week” logo chime is from Universfield, via Pixabay https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764 [https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764]   Special thanks to every single one of you who has listened, offered feedback and support, and generally been kind and generous with your time and your love. And very special thanks to BTS and One Direction for making our lives better by sharing themselves and their music.

Who's Your Bias?

Season One, Episode Three “Who’s your Bias?” Welcome back to BFFs and Boybands, where we talk about “Friendship, Fandom, and the Boybands we love”! Carrie loves One Direction and Muse loves BTS and we talk about the things our fandoms share, how they’re different, and why we’re so invested. On this episode: We talk about our “bias” – our favourite group members. Where does the term ‘bias’ even come from? And what makes your bias, YOUR Bias? Boys of the week: we cover our biases, of course! Louis Tomlinson and Min Yoongi 00:08 We start laughing because Carrie flubbed the intro the first time 00:34 There’s a crazy amount of news in our fandoms! Let’s review! 02:24 Turning to the topic of biases... Let’s talk about Carrie’s bias Louis (and Harry?) 03:40 Backing up a bit... What’s a bias? And where does that term come from? 05:20 So what’s a “Bias Wrecker”? 05:51 Kinship between people who share a bias... do we get along? 07:43 What makes you relate to a member as a “bias”? How do we relate to our biases? 09:45 We talk about honesty in lyrics and music 10:47 Solo and Group albums and how they’re different 13:04 Can you have more than one bias? (Yes) 15:47 Muse talks about “Bias Lines”  17:10 Our first Boy of the Week! Carrie’s bias: Louis Tomlinson 26:27 Our second Boy of the Week! Muse’s bias: Min Yoongi 38:12 We conclude they’re good Boys and have a little cry Closing notes, next show and contact info 38:19 Thank yous and show closing notes Additional notes, memes and music: Watch Yoongi’s interview show “Suchwita” with the boys from Tomorrow X Together here: https://youtu.be/FuF6gBiAJkE?si=NO7PO59dI3u1oPh5 [https://youtu.be/FuF6gBiAJkE?si=NO7PO59dI3u1oPh5] Watch the video for Amygdala here: https://youtu.be/IX1dkYoLHVs?si=sawNdHPnaJnD8fkn [https://youtu.be/IX1dkYoLHVs?si=sawNdHPnaJnD8fkn] And read Muse’s esssay on the symbolism in the video, and Yoongi’s tour here: https://medium.com/@btswithsincerity/min-yoongis-white-door-of-the-self-symbolism-in-the-suga-agust-d-tour-d-day-finale-concert-935843ff1e5c [https://medium.com/@btswithsincerity/min-yoongis-white-door-of-the-self-symbolism-in-the-suga-agust-d-tour-d-day-finale-concert-935843ff1e5c] Special thanks to the folks at the BTS with Sincerity blog for having me on as a guest blogger. Songs we mention: “Lemonade” by Louis Tomlinson “Palaces” by Louis Tomlinson “Silver Tongues” by Louis Tomlinson "She is beauty, We are World Class” by Louis Tomlinson "That That” by PSY (prod. & feat. SUGA of BTS) “Interlude: Shadow” by BTS “Amygdala” by Agust D Listen to our Season 1 Playlist ...on Youtube Music here: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y [https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y] ...on Tidal here: https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765 [https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765] ...on Apple Music here: https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK [https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK] Our Contact Information: E-mail: bffsandboybands@gmail.com Bluesky: @bffsandboybands.bsky.social Show Credits BFFs and Boybands is brought to you by your hosts: Carrie and Muse BFFs and Boybands Logo and branding is by Megan Berry and Jeff Leblanc Our Theme song is “Light Summer Pop” by SingleFX via Audio Jungle https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454 [https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454]  The “Boy of the Week” logo chime is from Universfield, via Pixabay https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764 [https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764] Special thanks to every single one of you who has listened, offered feedback and support, and generally been kind and generous with your time and your love. And very special thanks to BTS and One Direction for making our lives better by sharing themselves and their music.

The Boys

Welcome back to BFFs and Boybands, where we talk about “Friendship, Fandom, and the Boybands we love”! Carrie loves One Direction and Muse loves BTS and we talk about the things our fandoms share, how they’re different, and why we’re so invested. On this episode: We talk about who the boys are, where they’re from, and what we mean when we say we love them. 00:46 So... what did Carrie think of Neva Play from last episode?  02:58 We didn’t talk about the boys last time, so let’s do that now.  03:19 Why we call them ‘the boys’, even though they’re adults – is it infantalizing? 05:32 Carrie introduces One Direction and their origin story 07:59 Carrie introduces the members of One Direction (Harry Styles is in One Direction???) 10:00 Muse talks about how Kpop Idol Groups are formed, and BTS came together 12:23 One Direction and the X-Factor house, and how that led to One Direction developing a fanbase 13:10 How BTS made connections with their fans through online lives 14:30 The BTS members, and why there are 600 names for them, and only 7 guys 19:45 The One Direction Hiatus and their solo work 22:32 BTS and their almost-breakup 25:55 Do we love them? And what does that really mean? 28:45 “I think they love us too” 30:58 Is it their personalities, or their music that we love? 34:03 If you could recommend one song... what would it be? 37:26 The Boy of the Week – Mom’s favourite, Niall Horan! 43:00 Closing notes, next show and contact info  Additional notes, memes and music: BTS Cheat sheet  Many thanks to the wonderful and talented Daily BTS on Bluesky for the help on this. (Give them a follow, @dailybts.bsky.social!)  https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ec2-XnBlKRT2y4hX2hZLhPyXq3h887-J/view?usp=drive_link [https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ec2-XnBlKRT2y4hX2hZLhPyXq3h887-J/view?usp=drive_link] Yoongi’s rant about having to learn choreography: https://youtu.be/6bsrCL53iNM?si=SEQx4Mza-YlDNqHl [https://youtu.be/6bsrCL53iNM?si=SEQx4Mza-YlDNqHl] BTS performs Mikrokosmos on Jimmy Fallon:  https://youtu.be/q9kSnTuGEzk?si=0B1iICobPKaKJNT5 [https://youtu.be/q9kSnTuGEzk?si=0B1iICobPKaKJNT5]  Songs we mention: “Seesaw” by BTS “Fool’s Gold” by One Direction “No Control” by One Direction (Carrie chose this as her favourite from “Four”!) “Where Do Broken Hearts Go”, One Direction “Mikrokosmos” by BTS “Nice to meet ya” by Niall Horan   Listen to our Season 1 Playlist ...on Youtube Music here: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y [https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y] ...on Tidal here: https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765 [https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765] ...on Apple Music here: https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK [https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK] Our Contact Information: E-mail: bffsandboybands@gmail.com Bluesky: @bffsandboybands.bsky.social Show Credits BFFs and Boybands is brought to you by your hosts: Carrie and Muse BFFs and Boybands Logo and branding is by Megan Berry and Jeff Leblanc Our Theme song is “Light Summer Pop” by SingleFX via Audio Jungle https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454 [https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454] The “Boy of the Week” logo chime is from Universfield, via Pixabay https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764 [https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764] Special thanks to every single one of you who has listened, offered feedback and support, and generally been kind and generous with your time and your love. And very special thanks to BTS and One Direction for making our lives better by sharing themselves and their music.

BFFs and Boybands

Show notes Season One, Episode one  “Introductions” 00:43 We introduce ourselves  03:16 How did we meet? 05:07 How did Carrie start liking One Direction? 09:07 We touch on the subject shame around liking Boybands 10:49 How did Muse get into BTS? 14:03 We talk about how the music finds you at the right moment 16:20 The kinship that comes with fandom, and why this podcast is about two different groups 21:04 Who should listen to this show? 28:19 Community in grief (and excitement), we talk briefly about Liam Payne’s death 30:27 The Boy of the Week! 31:19 What is ‘fan chant order’ and why is it important? 32:26 Let’s talk about the leader of BTS: RM or Kim Namjoon! 39:01 Closing notes, next show and contact info   Additional notes, memes and music: 15:11 Carrie references “The Adventerous Adventures of One Direction”, a fan-made cartoon series featuring the members of One Direction as superheroes. You can find more info here: https://onedirection.fandom.com/wiki/The_Adventurous_Adventures_of_One_Direction [https://onedirection.fandom.com/wiki/The_Adventurous_Adventures_of_One_Direction] And a Youtube playlist here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd0DtPD-wsy90CKvEcei5CsVy0eyG-Sv4 [https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLd0DtPD-wsy90CKvEcei5CsVy0eyG-Sv4] 38:06 Muse references the show “Are You Sure”, episode 4 which can be found on Disney Plus Songs we mention: “What Makes You Beautiful” by One Direction “Idol” by BTS “Black Swan” by BTS “Lonely” by RM “Neva Play” by Megan Thee Stallion feat. RM Listen to our Season 1 Playlist ...on Youtube Music here: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y [https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL9WhMVmTww0BsmXJAZH0FSuXYaeTR1_O9&si=FqHJfIjK4g1tFH2Y] ...on Tidal here: https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765 [https://tidal.com/playlist/bb1a4982-6b7c-48ca-bec0-a09f41851765] ...on Apple Music here: https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK [https://music.apple.com/ca/playlist/bffs-and-boybands-season-1/pl.u-PDb44KBTkP6LoK] Our Contact Information: E-mail: bffsandboybands@gmail.com Bluesky: @bffsandboybands.bsky.social Show Credits BFFs and Boybands is brought to you by your hosts: Carrie and Muse BFFs and Boybands Logo and branding is by Megan Berry and Jeff Leblanc Our Theme song is “Light Summer Pop” by SingleFX via Audio Jungle https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454 [https://audiojungle.net/item/light-summer-pop/57537454] The “Boy of the Week” logo chime is from Universfield, via Pixabay https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764 [https://pixabay.com/sound-effects//?utm_source=link-attribution&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=music&utm_content=125764]   Special thanks to every single one of you who has listened, offered feedback and support, and generally been kind and generous with your time and your love. And very special thanks to BTS and One Direction for making our lives better by sharing themselves and their music.