Breakthrough Innovation
Most leaders don't fail because they stop caring. They fail because they can't stop adding — more initiatives, more hours, more optimization — until the very effort that built their success starts to quietly undermine it. In this episode of Breakthrough Innovation, host JL Heather sits down with Nell Derick Debevoise Dewey — Harvard-trained leadership advisor, self-described Subtraction Activist, and someone whose most unlikely teacher in systems thinking has been horses. Nell helps high-performing women leaders do more good without piling on more to-dos, using frameworks grounded in living systems rather than productivity culture. Together, they unpack why "more" has become the default operating system in leadership and life — and why it eventually hits a wall of diminishing returns. Nell introduces her Stop–Drop–Roll framework, a practical method leaders can apply before their next meeting to reclaim clarity, delegate with intention, and redesign their efforts so impact compounds instead of erodes. They also explore her 3D Leadership model (ME, WE, WORLD), what the body is trying to tell you when you're overextended, and why subtraction isn't retreat — it's strategy. If you've ever suspected that your hardest work is producing your least clear thinking, this conversation will feel like permission and a plan. 🔗 Get Nell's free Stop–Drop–Roll one-pager: https://nell3d.kit.com/stopdroproll 🔗 90-day guest pass to Nell's Substack, Subtract to Succeed: https://nell3d.substack.com/guestpass Thanks for tuning in to Breakthrough Innovation! Want to subscribe to the podcast? Have feedback to share? Connect with us on Spotify [https://open.spotify.com/show/5lvtrMCTIn2sacSJgUQ8yw] or iTunes [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/breakthrough-innovation/id1785025311] and leave us a review—we’d love to hear from you!
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