Where Do I Fit in the Family Business? with Torri Hawley

Finding Impossible Freedom in your Family Business with Nadine & Derek Nicholson

In this episode of Building Unbreakable Brands, Meghan Lynch sits down with Nadine and Derek Nicholson, co-founders of Ascend Leadership, to explore what it really takes to lead differently in a generational business. Drawing on decades of experience in executive coaching and business growth, Nadine and Derek unpack why so many leaders feel stuck in overwork and decision fatigue, and why the answer isn’t working harder, but leading differently. From navigating family dynamics to building trust through better conversations, this conversation offers a clear and reassuring path forward for leaders who want to evolve their leadership without losing what made the business successful in the first place. Key Topics Discussed * Identify the “founder’s curse” and why deep knowledge of the business can make it harder to let go and grow * Redefine leadership across generations by honoring legacy while stepping into your own leadership strengths * Use courageous conversations to protect relationships, not avoid tension—and prevent long-term resentment * Recognize and close the “say-do gap” to build trust, accountability, and leadership integrity * Address the “support gap” by aligning roles, strengthening teams, and designing leadership intentionally * Shift out of overwork and into sustainable performance by rethinking how time, energy, and decisions are managed Find out what stage of the Middle Zone you’re currently in with the Impossible Freedom quiz [https://www.ascendleadership.com/quiz]. Read Nadine and Derek's new book, Impossible Freedom [https://www.amazon.com/Impossible-Freedom-Business-Fuels-Consumes/dp/1957232331/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CQWCNGFX6VMI&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.oB5JqMINVAUumylUriWBX7WFO96Yt5u67h57PJ-kfjNDYVbRJ5ICrhmuuXR5rWMZQYJ3Q5ex84IOVXaOUZI_t_LyVs1nwd9FK9NcI2FL87868mWAsnpQ4eeV7eHxShQiyf2GDTKReJST68An4aPuKr1lkTMOKgn_PKu8Cvg_HnYVG_KdUQ20epV4phkmEJHf2TL4yBKVJP7V45-vsiYFSdCTh_LoR1juCcWviu59FHc.2YAWh30Mp4EtdPg7u5Flz6CbXI0UHgS8-_rThxzEOtg&dib_tag=se&keywords=impossible+freedom&qid=1777310456&sprefix=impossible+freedom%2Caps%2C190&sr=8-1]. Connect with Nadine [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nadinenicholson/] and Derek [https://www.linkedin.com/in/derek-d-nicholson/] on LinkedIn Connect with Meghan Lynch on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/melynch/] Building Unbreakable Brands is produced by Six-Point Strategy [http://www.sixpointstrategy.com/]

Should You Call Your Business Family-Owned?

In this Season 2 finale of Building Unbreakable Brands, Meghan Lynch unpacks a question she hears from family business leaders across industries: does calling your company “family-owned” help or hurt your growth? Drawing on real client experience and market insight, Meghan explores how to determine whether “family-owned” is a liability, a differentiator, or something more strategic altogether—and how to make that call with clarity and confidence. Key Topics Discussed * Examine the real question behind “family-owned” positioning and why it often signals a deeper identity shift during periods of change * Analyze how brand signals (not just messaging) shape perception, including how packaging, visuals, and presentation can unintentionally communicate “small” * Understand when “family-owned” becomes a competitive advantage, especially in industries shaped by consolidation and loss of personal connection * Navigate the tension between scaling and authenticity without losing the qualities that built trust in the first place * Reground your brand in what remains true when legacy claims or historical messaging no longer fully apply * Recognize transition moments as strategic inflection points, where clarity around identity becomes critical to sustained growth   What separates family businesses that come out of transition stronger than they went in? It’s not a perfect plan or a clean handoff. It’s a set of practices, and the leaders who understand them have a real advantage. We spent years working with and studying the leaders who got it right. Here’s what we found: Building Unbreakable Brands: 6 Practices of Family Businesses that Endure Six practices, delivered over 18 days. Sign up for the series here. [https://bit.ly/48LArMo] Connect with Meghan Lynch on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/melynch/] Building Unbreakable Brands is produced by Six-Point Strategy [http://www.sixpointstrategy.com/]

Where Do I Fit in the Family Business? with Torri Hawley

What does it really mean to find your place in a family business? In this episode, Meghan Lynch sits down with Torri Hawley, Chief Learning Officer at Tamarind Learning [https://tamarindlearning.com/] and a member of a seventh-generation family enterprise, to unpack a challenge many rising gen leaders face: being included without being clear on their role. Drawing from her own experience, Torri shares why simply teaching financials doesn’t solve the problem. You can understand the numbers and still feel lost, because the real question isn’t “Do I get this?” it’s “Where do I fit, and what’s expected of me?” The conversation explores how identity, context, and role clarity shape confidence over time, and why that shift matters for anyone stepping into ownership, whether formally or informally. Key Topics Discussed * Why understanding the numbers doesn’t automatically build confidence or readiness  *  How unclear roles create tension and leave rising gen members unsure where they fit  *  Why building an identity outside the family business strengthens leadership inside it  *  How the right language and context help turn passive involvement into real participation  Connect with Torri on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/torri-hawley/] Connect with Meghan Lynch on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/melynch/] Building Unbreakable Brands is produced by Six-Point Strategy [http://www.sixpointstrategy.com/]

108 Years In: What It Takes to Lead in the Third Generation with Jaclyn Leibl-Cote

Every generation inherits a different company. By the time a family business reaches the third generation, the organization is larger, the family system is more layered, and the decisions carry more weight in every direction. Third-generation leaders know that running on instinct is no longer enough to both protect the legacy and continue to drive growth. Jaclyn Leibl-Cote faced this when she stepped into leadership at Collette. She had to earn the right to lead it, working outside the business before returning, building credibility within an organization that already had its own culture and momentum, and stepping into high-stakes decisions. The clearest example of this occurred during the pandemic, when Collette refunded over $185 million in tour revenue rather than hold onto it amid the uncertainty. It was the kind of decision that is only "simple" when you're clear on what the company's promise is to its customers, employees, and family ownership. This conversation is for anyone managing the gap between the business they inherited and the leader they need to become. Connect with Jaclyn [https://linkedin.com/in/jaclyn-leibl-cote-7189556b] on LinkedIn Connect with Meghan [https://www.linkedin.com/in/melynch/] on LinkedIn Building Unbreakable Brands is produced by Six-Point Strategy [http://www.sixpointstrategy.com/]

Choosing Work That Multiplies Impact with Dr. Robert Langer, co-founder of Moderna

What does it take to build a career that creates lasting impact? In this episode, Meghan Lynch sits down with Dr. Robert Langer, MIT Institute Professor and co-founder of Moderna, to explore how he’s spent decades choosing problems worth solving. Rather than chasing incremental gains, Dr. Langer focuses on work where he sees the potential for real, far-reaching impact, and then builds teams and mentors others to extend that impact beyond what any one person could achieve alone. It’s a conversation that connects scientific innovation to a question many leaders are asking: what’s actually worth your time, and who do you need to develop to make that work matter at scale? Key Topics Discussed * Evaluate opportunities based on whether they can create meaningful, far-reaching impact * Focus on problems with broad application across industries or markets * Align your work with skills you can meaningfully apply and expand * Multiply impact through mentorship and developing future leaders * Move ideas beyond theory by ensuring real-world application and commercialization Building Unbreakable Brands is hosted by Meghan Lynch [https://www.linkedin.com/in/melynch/] Produced by Six-Point Strategy [https://www.sixpointstrategy.com/]