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Episode #20: Elisa — A Polyglot's Guide to Learning Languages | Intermediate Spanish Conversation

40 min · 18 de may de 2026
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Elisa speaks five languages — German, English, French, Spanish, and Dutch — and is studying Korean on the side. She's lived in Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Mexico, and now Canada. And when Roberto first heard her speak Spanish, he didn't think she was German at all. So what's her secret? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui meets Elisa for the first time and the three of them dig into what actually works (and what definitely doesn't) when you're trying to learn a language from scratch. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) are joined by Elisa, a German polyglot living in Montreal. She shares the unusual trick that keeps her languages from blurring together — treating each one like a different muscle that needs its own rest day — and explains why she lived in Aguascalientes for seven months to break through her speaking block. Along the way: Roberto's metaphor trick for getting unstuck mid-sentence, the simple words formal classes never teach you (Elisa didn't learn "pájaro" until she saw a Botero statue), why Duolingo alone won't get you fluent, and a story about lucha libre that ends with Elisa playing emergency-room translator. A reminder that progress in a language is never linear — and that patience matters more than talent. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ [https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ] Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665] 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles [https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles] 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish [https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor [https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor] 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning

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episode Episode #23: Why The Best Nights Are The Ones You Didn't Plan | Intermediate Spanish Conversation artwork

Episode #23: Why The Best Nights Are The Ones You Didn't Plan | Intermediate Spanish Conversation

Roberto goes to the mall by himself on a Sunday — eats sushi, watches a mediocre movie, sends a friend a random text on the way out. By the end of the night he's bar-hopping with two friends, eating tacos at midnight, and laughing harder than he has in weeks. None of it was planned. And Roberto, by his own admission, is a planner. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto try to figure out why the unplanned nights so often turn out to be the best ones — and where the line is when spontaneity starts to mess with the rest of your life. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) compare notes as two self-described planners. Roberto talks about organizing his 40th birthday yacht party a month and a half in advance while his younger friends kept telling him to chill, and then walks through the chain of small decisions that turned his quiet Sunday into a three-stop night out with friends from three different generations (40, 30, and 23 — basically the Ghosts of Spontaneous Plans Past, Present, and Future). They land on the same rule for when spontaneity becomes a problem: the moment it disrupts the rhythm that holds your real life together. Plus: Roberto's old habit of keeping a "spontaneity kit" (fresh clothes, toothbrush, deodorant) in his car at twenty, why FOMO hits harder when you're young, and Rui's weekly food-tracking discipline that gives him the weekend off — a small case study in why balance beats discipline alone. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ [https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ] Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665] 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles [https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles] 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish [https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor [https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor] 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning

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episode Episode #22: Pop Culture, Cringey Old Emails & Why Easy Tech Always Wins | Intermediate Spanish artwork

Episode #22: Pop Culture, Cringey Old Emails & Why Easy Tech Always Wins | Intermediate Spanish

Roberto's first email was named after a 1973 Mustang nobody his age recognized. Rui's was a crude reference to an obscure college football player nobody would recognize either. Both of them were dead convinced they had the coolest email address on the planet. In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto take a generational lap through pop culture — what used to be cool, what tech actually wins, and what the kids of today are never going to understand. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) compare notes across a 13-year age gap. They reminisce about Blockbuster as the original date night, why Hugh Hefner playing Pac-Man for hours was peak '80s celebrity content, and how the Hotmail-vs-Yahoo divide actually mapped to geography (Mexican friends had Hotmail, Roberto's American friends had Yahoo). They land on a bigger idea — that in tech, easy always beats configurable. MySpace let you tweak your profile with Java; Facebook didn't, and Facebook won. Android does more; iPhone wins because there's no friction. Plus: Roberto's "vampire problem" (his Apple ID is locked to a Hotmail account that no longer exists), why stand-up comedy is a near-perfect time capsule of the era it was made in, and Roberto's polite but real disappointment with his new AirPods. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ [https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ] Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665] 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles [https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles] 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish [https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor [https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor] 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning

1 de jun de 202645 min
episode Episode #21: Coincidences, Luck & How to Create Your Own | Intermediate Spanish Conversation artwork

Episode #21: Coincidences, Luck & How to Create Your Own | Intermediate Spanish Conversation

Rui blows a tire on his birthday in a sketchy part of town and somehow coasts to a stop in the parking lot of the only tire shop within miles — closed, but with a stranger standing outside who fixes it for ten dollars so he can still make his golf tee time. A miracle? A gift from the universe? Or just statistics doing what statistics do? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto pull apart what coincidences really are, and whether you can do something about them. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) trade the mystical and the statistical takes on luck — and end up agreeing that even a fully logical brain can't help feeling a little awe when the math lines up. Roberto tells the story of how he met his first friend in Mazatlán through a cascade of coincidences (their dogs hit it off, she turned out to be from his hometown in Chihuahua, her parents live blocks from his), and explains why he thinks you can engineer your own luck by changing where you live and how you spend your time. Along the way: a finance professor's "if an investment feels exciting, you're doing it wrong" rule, Rui's "expected value" framework for trusting the process over the result, and why religious, emotional, and logical people each handle the gap between effort and outcome in completely different ways. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ [https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ] Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665] 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles [https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles] 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish [https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor [https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor] 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning

25 de may de 202641 min
episode Episode #20: Elisa — A Polyglot's Guide to Learning Languages | Intermediate Spanish Conversation artwork

Episode #20: Elisa — A Polyglot's Guide to Learning Languages | Intermediate Spanish Conversation

Elisa speaks five languages — German, English, French, Spanish, and Dutch — and is studying Korean on the side. She's lived in Australia, New Zealand, the Netherlands, Mexico, and now Canada. And when Roberto first heard her speak Spanish, he didn't think she was German at all. So what's her secret? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui meets Elisa for the first time and the three of them dig into what actually works (and what definitely doesn't) when you're trying to learn a language from scratch. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) are joined by Elisa, a German polyglot living in Montreal. She shares the unusual trick that keeps her languages from blurring together — treating each one like a different muscle that needs its own rest day — and explains why she lived in Aguascalientes for seven months to break through her speaking block. Along the way: Roberto's metaphor trick for getting unstuck mid-sentence, the simple words formal classes never teach you (Elisa didn't learn "pájaro" until she saw a Botero statue), why Duolingo alone won't get you fluent, and a story about lucha libre that ends with Elisa playing emergency-room translator. A reminder that progress in a language is never linear — and that patience matters more than talent. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ [https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ] Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665] 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles [https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles] 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish [https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor [https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor] 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning

18 de may de 202640 min
episode Episode #19: The Paradox of Choice — Why Too Many Options Paralyze Us | Intermediate Spanish artwork

Episode #19: The Paradox of Choice — Why Too Many Options Paralyze Us | Intermediate Spanish

Roberto walks into a sushi restaurant and the menu has so many pages he can't pick a roll. Rui opens Netflix and his food goes cold before he settles on a show. We've all been there — but at what point did having more options stop making life better and start making it worse? In this week's rabbit hole, Rui and Roberto pick apart the strange modern problem of being saturated with choice, from fast-food menus to $1,000 phone purchases. In this episode of Cayendo en Rabbit Holes, Rui (intermediate Spanish learner) and Roberto (native Spanish teacher) compare the freedom of a four-option Michelin menu to the chaos of Taco Bell's "build your own combo" — and land on Roberto's theory that Taco Bell is basically a printer with three colors of ink. They get into the illusion of options (how Coke and Pepsi or two nearly identical sushi rolls trick you into thinking you're choosing), the real cost of being impulsive vs. comparing prices, and Roberto's iPhone hunt that saved him hundreds of dollars but took a week. Plus: Roberto's stolen wheel cap and Rui's near-impulse Whoop purchase, both case studies in how we've lost our patience for anything that isn't immediate. 🎧 Listen on other platforms: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ [https://open.spotify.com/show/6kqxHxyZbyK00qPxB3NIGJ] Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/cayendo-en-rabbit-holes/id1866466665] 📝 Annotated scripts with error tracking and vocabulary notes: Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles [https://www.patreon.com/c/CayendoenRabbitHoles] 👨‍🏫 Take lessons with Roberto: italki: https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish [https://www.italki.com/en/i/reft/Aa6HHec/bFBHdH/spanish] Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor [https://www.instagram.com/robelprofesor] 📱 Follow us: TikTok: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles Instagram: @CayendoEnRabbitHoles — Cayendo en Rabbit Holes is a Spanish conversation podcast for intermediate and advanced learners. Every episode features real, unscripted conversation between a learner and a native speaker. Mistakes are left in — because that's how real communication works. #SpanishPodcast #IntermediateSpanish #LearnSpanish #ComprehensibleInput #SpanishConversation #LanguageLearning

11 de may de 202643 min