Bridging Mental Health and Law Enforcement: Student Spotlight with Megan Taft

Bridging Mental Health and Law Enforcement: Student Spotlight with Megan Taft

What happens when the world of Limited License Psychology collides with the realm of Crisis Negotiation? The answer is not only simple, but clear - you get one of Pat Doering's Crisis Negotiator Training Class Students - Meghan Taft. We all know that being a life-long, Perpetual Student isn't only one of the best ways to live, it IS LIFE. Are you continuing to learn as you lead your life? Are you finding satisfaction as you add to the toolbelt that you have inside YOUR life? Listen to this episode to learn more about what Meghan thought - from the original days of even contemplating the Crisis Negotiator Training efforts to her now being a real-life, in-place Crisis Negotiator, and everything in between. You'll find it all and more inside this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast as Pat launches The Student Spotlight Series. Be sure to Like Subscribe and Share this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com...   The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar:  Connect with The Host!     Subscribe to This Podcast Now!   This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network!   Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com   Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AA0lD4734o The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode!   Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 Considering a role in crisis negotiation 05:58 Participating in law enforcement training class 07:37 Engaging students in virtual learning environments 10:17 Maintaining skills learned in training sessions 13:47 Importance of coordination with tactical teams 16:20 Coaching an officer through decision-making scenario 20:37 Successful negotiation and positive outcome 23:31 Experiencing emotional highs and lows 27:44 Learning about team roles in behavioral health settings 32:26 Integrating into the team and building relationships 35:51 Managing a challenging behavioral call out 37:06 Post-incident debrief: learning and improvements 42:07 Establishing connection before problem-solving 44:01 Dealing with a scene involving a suicide 47:07 Checking in with law enforcement partners regularly 52:49 Mentorship and advice for newcomers 53:41 Advice for future behavioral health professionals   Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: How did Meghan Taft’s initial uncertainty about joining a crisis negotiation team evolve throughout her training and field experience? What factors influenced her change of perspective? In what ways does having a behavioral health professional like Meghan Taft integrated into crisis negotiation teams enhance team effectiveness, as discussed in the episode? What challenges did Meghan Taft face as a mental health professional entering a traditionally law enforcement-dominated environment, and how did she and her team address them? The episode discusses the “80/20 rule” in active listening. What is this rule, and how does it apply to both law enforcement and clinical crisis work? Scenario-based training played a significant role in this episode. How did these scenarios help prepare Meghan Taft for real-life incidents, and what were some of the key takeaways from her scenario experiences? What are some of the emotional and physical impacts described by Meghan Taft that negotiators may experience after a long and intense crisis call-out? Discuss the importance of debriefs and team roles as described in the episode. How do these contribute to continuous improvement in crisis negotiation outcomes? The episode highlights the importance of “connection” in negotiations. How can negotiators use their own mistakes or missteps to build human connection during a crisis? What advice does Meghan Taft offer to mental health professionals who may be considering joining a crisis negotiation team? How can teams make this integration more effective? Reflect on the episode’s discussion about handling incidents where a subject dies by suicide. How do teams process these experiences, and what supports are mentioned as being important for team well-being?   Links from this Episode: -- Get All of Pat's Books via Amazon Now!    - Crisis Cops: The Evolution of Crisis Negotiation in America      - Crisis Cop 2: More Stories from the Front Lines of Crisis Negotiation      - Calming the Chaos: My Life as a Crisis Negotiator in the St. Louis Area 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Link to the Network's homepage to provide listeners with more background. 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Books & Training Materials Compliance Surrender by Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator: The foundational book on negotiation tactics – find it on Amazon or inquire to the hosts for a fair price. Pat Doering - CrisisCop.Com’s newest negotiation book: For more content and practical advice, reach out via the podcast or website. Relevant Techniques & Philosophies The "Four Rs" of Negotiation: Recognize, Respect, Reduce, and Remove barriers – as discussed by Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator Active Listening Skills: Essential for both negotiations and day-to-day policing – and featured throughout the episode. Professional Communication in Law Enforcement: Why avoiding yelling and profanity matters for de-escalation and public image. Topics Covered in This Episode The evolution of crisis negotiation in police work and CIT (Crisis Intervention Team) training. Handling emotionally charged situations, and the effects of PTSD in law enforcement. Building trust and rapport—even through difficult or traumatic incidents. Why mentorship matters: Advice for new negotiators from Pat Doering - CrisisCop.Com and Meghan Taft - Limited License Psychologist & Crisis Negotiator. The importance of preserving dignity and respecting emotional barriers during crisis calls. Be sure to Like, Subscribe & Share Everywhere!   ==== Connect with Pat Doering - The Crisis Cop Today! — Pat Doering on Facebook — Pat Doering on LinkedIn — Pat Doering on Instagram — Crisis Cop on the Web -- Crisis Cop on YouTube   ==== Help Us Tell People About 10+ Years of WhatCopsWatch.Com: On the Web: https://whatcopswatch.com/ At Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast.... At Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2VV1HL9.... On Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b46.... On Facebook: / whatcopswatch     Calls to the Audience Inside this Episode: — Did you know that it ALL STARTED with John & Al's Sporting Goods? What was your favorite light bulb moment that YOU discovered in this episode? Tell us Your Perspective About This Episode Now!   Be an Advertiser/Sponsor for This Program!   Tell us what you think! It’s never too late to be an advertiser in this podcast, thanks to Perpetual Advertising! Contact CrisisCop.Com now and learn more about why podcasting allows your advertising dollar to live across millions of future listeners – FOREVER!   Tell Us What You Think About The Crisis Cop Podcast: Tell us what you think and we’ll use your comments in a future ALL-FAN-INPUT Episode! Educating the public is what we’ve based all of our programming on and we’re eager to connect with others who are doing it! Know about another podcast , YouTuber or other media generator making a difference in the way of perspective when it comes to law enforcement? Tell us about them now and we’ll link to them and have them on a future episode of CrisisCop.Com!   The Host of this Program: Pat Doering Pat Doering began his career as a police officer in 1996 and has served as a Police Hostage Negotiator since 2004. He has received formal negotiation training from the FBI, the London Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard), and the Negotiation Program at Harvard University. As a graduate of the FBI National Academy (Class 248), Pat continues to provide guidance, formal training,...

Inside the Mind of a Crisis Negotiator: Brian Banning’s Journey

Step inside The Crisis Cop NOC, the nerve center where the weight of crisis is both shouldered and unraveled, and you’ll find retired Lieutenant Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator, a man whose law enforcement journey reads like a riveting novel - one that twists from the concrete cells of Sacramento County’s jails to the electric tension of high-stakes negotiations. For 26 years, Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator wore every hat the badge had to offer: jailer, patrol deputy, fusion center analyst, and finally, the calm and steady voice behind the negotiation team’s phone line, where lives hung in the balance and every conversation was a chance to change destiny. Be sure to Like Subscribe and Share this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com...   The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar:  Connect with The Host!     Subscribe to This Podcast Now!   This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network!   Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com   Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/Vts0zcsC4vw The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode!   Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 26-year Sacramento County Sheriff's veteran with diverse roles: jail deputy, patrol, fusion centers, critical infrastructure intel, and terrorism threat analysis. 04:52 The speaker enjoyed negotiation work and saved lives through it, making the experience fulfilling and impactful. 06:53 Team mentors, including Sergeants Bob Curry and Bob Lizzito, shaped effective communication and broader considerations, emphasizing professionalism, legal awareness, and representation in high-stakes situations. 13:07 Early role: setup equipment and intelligence; later: first negotiation with a distraught man threatening self-harm. 15:12 Verbal mistakes are easier to overcome than tactical ones; rebuild rapport to recover trust in negotiations. 17:17 Early in their career, a negotiator used intelligence about a barricaded gang member's Raiders fandom during an armed standoff in an evacuated apartment complex. 21:24 Negotiators are a small, specialized community within law enforcement. 24:25 A man aiming for suicide by cop held hostages, called the police, and the team leader was dispatched to handle the situation. 31:05 Law enforcement often prioritizes negotiation over deadly force, saving lives despite situations where shooting would be legally justified. 36:32 An apartment complex was evacuated for 36 hours as police searched for JD Souza, wanted for shooting at officers; intelligence suggested he might visit his ex-girlfriend's home in Sacramento. 37:47 Man quickly checks a room, instinctively avoids entering, and spots JD Souza aiming an SKS rifle. 48:03 Seek help from a counselor for fresh solutions; it's worth exploring options. 51:28 Brian Banning reflects on his legacy, valuing lasting teaching tips, especially the idea that negotiation prevents unnecessary violence, ensuring safety for all. 55:18 Understand your audience, infrastructure risks, and priorities; manage relationships effectively; prepare for crises and support your team. 56:52 Prioritize safety, educate teams, foster wellness, and support each other. 59:57 Brian thanked for sharing his story on Crisis Cop Podcast; encouraged to seek knowledge.   Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: How did Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator's early experiences in the jail system influence his approach to crisis and hostage negotiation later in his career? Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator mentions the Good Guys hostage rescue as a pivotal event for his department. How do major incidents like this shape departmental policies and team composition? What role do personal connections and shared experiences (e.g., knowing the same people, similar backgrounds) play in building rapport during a negotiation, based on Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator's stories? Discuss the importance of "face-saving" strategies for subjects during negotiations. In what ways did Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator use these techniques successfully? How does misinformation or withheld intelligence (such as the Idaho case) impact the outcome of crisis negotiations? Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator talks about the importance of mentorship and ongoing skill development. What systems or structures can law enforcement agencies put in place to encourage this kind of growth? Reflect on the “force multiplier” effect of training others that Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator describes. Why is this especially significant in the negotiation field? Negotiators are often required to think in "multi-dimensional" ways during incidents. How did Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator explain this skill and why is it crucial for successful outcomes? The episode discusses the value of team support and wellness post-incident. In what ways should agencies ensure negotiators and tactical officers are supported after high-stress events? What advice does Brian Banning - Crisis Negotiator give to aspiring crisis negotiators about legacy and the emotional weight of the profession, and how can new negotiators apply this perspective to their own careers?   Links from this Episode: -- Get All of Pat's Books via Amazon Now!    - Crisis Cops: The Evolution of Crisis Negotiation in America      - Crisis Cop 2: More Stories from the Front Lines of Crisis Negotiation      - Calming the Chaos: My Life as a Crisis Negotiator in the St. Louis Area 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Link to the Network's homepage to provide listeners with more background. 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Key Resources & References From This Episode California Association of Hostage Negotiators (CAHN) Networking, education, and resources for crisis negotiators: http://www.cahn.us/ The Good Guys Hostage Standoff (Referenced Major Case) Documentary & Case Overview:Wikipedia: Good Guys Hostage Crisis Documentary (subject to availability):"True Crime": Good Guys Hostage Standoff on YouTube Recommended Reading "Calming the Chaos" by Pat Doering - CrisisCop.Com (featured in the episode) "Stalling for Time" by Gary Noesner (Referenced expert) Books by Jack Cambria Training & Professional Development Voice Farmers Voiceover Academy Voice training for public safety and beyond: https://voicefarmers.com/ BlueBaggerz Project Volunteer voice role-play opportunities for negotiator training: https://bluebaggerzproject.com/ National Tactical Officers Association (NTOA) Training, conferences, and professional development: https://www.ntoa.org/ Crisis Negotiator Conferences & Events Kansas Negotiators Conference Oklahoma Negotiators Association Be sure to Like, Subscribe & Share Everywhere!   ==== Connect with Pat Doering - The Crisis Cop Today! — Pat Doering on Facebook — Pat Doering on LinkedIn — Pat Doering on Instagram — Crisis Cop on the Web -- Crisis Cop on YouTube   ==== Help Us Tell People About 10+ Years of WhatCopsWatch.Com: On the Web: https://whatcopswatch.com/ At Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast.... At Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2VV1HL9.... On Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b46.... On Facebook: / whatcopswatch     Calls to the Audience Inside this Episode: — Did you know that it ALL STARTED with John & Al's Sporting Goods? What was your favorite light bulb moment that YOU discovered in this episode? Tell us Your Perspective About This Episode Now!   Be an Advertiser/Sponsor for This Program!   Tell us what you think! It’s never too late to be an advertiser in this podcast, thanks to Perpetual Advertising! Contact CrisisCop.Com now and learn more about why podcasting allows your advertising dollar to live across millions of future listeners – FOREVER!   ...

Building Trust and Saving Lives: Insights From Crisis Negotiator Mentor Geno Dorough

Few things have the same impact as an effective mentor. Many moons ago, a man named Geno Dorough taught a class on Barricaded Individuals, and set the life of Pat Doering - The Crisis Cop, on a course for training crisis negotiators around the globe. Who is this man? What in the world did Pat learn from him? What stories, perspectives and deep down truths have and continue to power this gentleman's sway on the lives of so many? You'll find it all and more inside this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast as Pat's original mentor, Geno Dorough, visits in-studio to share everything with you... Be sure to Like Subscribe and Share this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com...   The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar:  Connect with The Host!     Subscribe to This Podcast Now!   This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network!   Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? Reclaim the time you spend on editing (easily at least twice the time you spend on capturing the program) to make more great content by enlisting "The Editor Corps" who will "Make Your Podcast Soar!" http://EditorCorps.Com -- The Voice Farm: Fred Wilkerson, Mike's Father that died in the first few days of 2018, always dreamed of a place that those interested in Voiceover could go to learn more about the industry and experience - without all the BS that goes with it. We build it four and a half years go and it continues to provide new voiceover artists and businesses looking for voiceover talent a place to go and secure great voiceover artists. http://VoiceFarmers.Com   Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://youtu.be/HLhJ4lbEn9I The Detailed Shownotes for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: Looking for the detailed links, information and references used inside this episode? Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode!   Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 "Prioritizing Negotiation and Life Preservation" 08:11 "Sharing Negotiation Knowledge and Insight" 13:00 Challenges in Leadership and Crisis Philosophy 17:30 "Guide to Law Enforcement Communication" 22:35 Managing Armed Suicidal Situations Tactfully 28:19 "Tragic End to Volatile Standoff" 34:40 "Challenges and Sacrifices of Officers" 40:45 "Serious Commitments and Sacrifices Needed" 44:53 Balancing Negotiations and Internal Crises 51:09 "Practicing Empathy and Respect in Law Enforcement" 57:19 "Impact and Joy of Mentorship" 01:01:07 "Passion and Connection in Training"   Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: Mentorship & Influence: How did mentorship (or the lack thereof) shape Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator’s approach to crisis negotiation, and how did he later become a mentor himself? Negotiation Philosophy: What is the “4 Rs” philosophy discussed in the episode, and how can it be applied to both emotional and physical barriers in crisis negotiation? Communication Skills: How does the difference between verbal and nonverbal communication affect outcomes during barricaded or crisis situations? Emotional Impact: The episode touches on the emotional toll crisis negotiation can have. How do negotiators cope with traumatic incidents, and what resources are available today compared to earlier years? Legacy & Lessons: What does Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator hope his legacy in the field will be, and how does passing on knowledge help shape the next generation of negotiators? Changing Practices: How have responses to suicidal individuals changed over time, and what are the implications for law enforcement and community safety? Training & Professionalism: Why is it important for all officers (not just negotiators) to receive training on communication and emotional management, and what impact does this have on the public’s perception of police? Tactical vs. Negotiation: How did Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator’s unique experience as both a tactical officer and negotiator help bridge the gap between these teams, and why is congruence in messaging crucial? Barriers & Time: Why is “taking time” emphasized repeatedly in the episode, and what risks are involved when law enforcement rushes a crisis situation? Personal Reflection: Geno Dorough and Pat Doering - CrisisCop.Com share personal stories about balancing their commitment to crisis negotiation with personal life. How do negotiators manage the demands of the job, and what advice do they offer to those considering this line of work?   Links from this Episode: -- Get All of Pat's Books via Amazon Now!    - Crisis Cops: The Evolution of Crisis Negotiation in America      - Crisis Cop 2: More Stories from the Front Lines of Crisis Negotiation      - Calming the Chaos: My Life as a Crisis Negotiator in the St. Louis Area 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Link to the Network's homepage to provide listeners with more background. 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Books & Training Materials Compliance Surrender by Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator: The foundational book on negotiation tactics – find it on Amazon or inquire to the hosts for a fair price. Pat Doering - CrisisCop.Com’s newest negotiation book: For more content and practical advice, reach out via the podcast or website. Relevant Techniques & Philosophies The "Four Rs" of Negotiation: Recognize, Respect, Reduce, and Remove barriers – as discussed by Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator Active Listening Skills: Essential for both negotiations and day-to-day policing – and featured throughout the episode. Professional Communication in Law Enforcement: Why avoiding yelling and profanity matters for de-escalation and public image. Topics Covered in This Episode The evolution of crisis negotiation in police work and CIT (Crisis Intervention Team) training. Handling emotionally charged situations, and the effects of PTSD in law enforcement. Building trust and rapport—even through difficult or traumatic incidents. Why mentorship matters: Advice for new negotiators from Pat Doering - CrisisCop.Com and Geno Dorough - Retired Crisis Negotiator. The importance of preserving dignity and respecting emotional barriers during crisis calls. Be sure to Like, Subscribe & Share Everywhere!   ==== Connect with Pat Doering - The Crisis Cop Today! — Pat Doering on Facebook — Pat Doering on LinkedIn — Pat Doering on Instagram — Crisis Cop on the Web -- Crisis Cop on YouTube   ==== Help Us Tell People About 10+ Years of WhatCopsWatch.Com: On the Web: https://whatcopswatch.com/ At Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast.... At Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2VV1HL9.... On Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/b46.... On Facebook: / whatcopswatch     Calls to the Audience Inside this Episode: — Did you know that it ALL STARTED with John & Al's Sporting Goods? What was your favorite light bulb moment that YOU discovered in this episode? Tell us Your Perspective About This Episode Now!   Be an Advertiser/Sponsor for This Program!   Tell us what you think! It’s never too late to be an advertiser in this podcast, thanks to Perpetual Advertising! Contact CrisisCop.Com now and learn more about why podcasting allows your advertising dollar to live across millions of future listeners – FOREVER!   Tell Us What You Think About The Crisis Cop Podcast: Tell us what you think and we’ll use your comments in a future ALL-FAN-INPUT Episode! Educating the public is what we’ve based all of our programming on and we’re eager to connect with others who are doing it! Know about another podcast , YouTuber or other media generator making a difference in the way of perspective when it comes to law enforcement? Tell us about them now and we’ll link to them and have them on a future episode of CrisisCop.Com!   The Host of this Program: Pat Doering Pat Doering began his career as a police officer in 1996 and has served as a Police Hostage Negotiator since 2004. He has received formal negotiation training from the FBI, the London Metropolitan Police (Scotland Yard), and the Negotiation Program at Harvard University. As a graduate of the FBI National Academy (Class 248), Pat continues to provide guidance, formal training, and leadership mentoring worldwide. In 2024, Pat retired from his law enforcement career but remains dedicated to fostering the next generation of Crisis Negotiators. He conducts live, on-site training events and online workshops designed to sharpen the skills of those interested in crisis negotiation. “My goal is to share the knowledge and experience I’ve gained throughout my career in high-stakes situations....

Did Criminal Minds Get Crisis Negotiation & Mental Health Details Right?

We all know that television and movies simply don't have enough time to give us what REALLY happens in Law Enforcement circles, in particular, Crisis Negotiation but - what IS Hollywood giving us when it comes to Crisis Negotiation and understanding Mental Health? The answer is reasonably horrifying. There are so many details, scenarios, perspectives and processes that have to be shoved into a 43-minute package, and it's time to find out what Hollywood is offering us from Crisis Negotiator Trainer, Pat Doering, The Crisis Cop and Crisis Negotiator and Clinical Psychologist Dr. Morgan Krumeich. It's time for a Perspective Review of Criminal Minds, Season 1, Episode 9 - "Derailed" via WhatCopsWatch on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network.   The Perspective Reviews Podcast Connection Links:   Connect with The Host (and View Direct Contact information Below!) Subscribe to This Podcast & Listen Now!     Subscribe, Like, and Share Everywhere! Help Perspective Reviews Grow!   Rate this Podcast on iTunes! The ultimate success for every podcaster – is FEEDBACK! Be sure to take just a few minutes to tell the hosts of this podcast what YOU think over at iTunes! It takes only a few minutes but helps the hosts of this program pave the way to future greatness! Not an iTunes user? No problem! Be sure to check out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network! Links to Enjoy This  Film! It's easy to have the  same great experience from this film as we go! Hit the links below and get your copy of the film's soundtrack, score or even the movie itself!   Housekeeping -- The Crisis Cop Podcast: Check it Out! https://CrisisCop.Com -- Calling All Future Role Players! Got a knack for acting and thinking on your feet? Train the future of Law Enforcement via Crisis Negotiation and Tell Us You're Interested Today!  https://BlueBaggersProject.Com -- WhatCopsWatch/2GuysTalking is Now an Official USCCA Business Partner! -- Free Field Training: Inside this episode we welcome Officer Tommy Mottl from Free Field Training on YouTube (and now, from The Free Field Training Podcast effort) to share his perspective on - literally - the area that he has intimate knowledge about in the South Chicagoland area...   Two Great Ways to Listen/Watch! We are proud to provide you both a dedicated AUDIO and VIDEO presentation for this program! To Listen Now: Hit the play button in the player on this page or hit the Subscribe button on your favorite Podcast Directory to instantly get these episodes when they release! To Watch Now: Visit this program on YouTube, or hit the window located below to see the hosts, guests and light bulb moments that make this program special! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JByG1f9o2bo Timestamps for This Episode: 00:00 "Crisis Negotiation Training Insights" 14:34 FBI Training Scenarios Experience 23:55 "Power of Great Writing" 32:47 "Security Guard's Fatal Moment" 50:43 "Phenomenal Film on Schizophrenia" 53:31 "Negotiation and Priest Protocol" 01:08:31 "Realistic Brainstorming in Negotiations" 01:20:35 "Hostage Rescue Tactical Insights" 01:23:10 "Critical Hostage Communication Strategy" 01:40:37 Ron Howard's Passionate Direction 01:48:45 Situational Awareness and Safety 01:56:56 "Revenge and Obsession Spiral" 02:13:01 "Crisis, Counselors, and Modern Solutions" 02:17:57 "Surviving Trauma and Loss" 02:31:16 "Entertainment's Unsteady Landscape" 02:36:10 WhatCops Watch: Next Episode   Questions from This Episode: How accurately do you think Criminal Minds portrayed crisis negotiation and mental health issues in this episode, based on the insights shared byPat Doering, Mike Wilkerson and Dr. Morgan Krumeich What impact does the lack of realistic negotiation strategy in the TV episode have on viewers’ understanding of real-life crisis response? Pat Doering and Mike Wilkerson share personal experiences with real-life hostage scenarios and negotiations. What stood out to you most in their comparisons between Hollywood and reality? The episode discusses the importance of not “playing into” a subject's delusions during negotiation. Why might affirming a delusional belief be risky, and what are alternative approaches? The team talks about the integration of mental health professionals into law enforcement responses. What are the potential challenges and benefits discussed concerning this collaboration? Both hosts and Dr. Morgan mention the rise in mental health-related crisis calls. How do you think police departments can best equip themselves to handle these situations? The episode criticizes the decision to send an additional "hostage" (Spencer) into the crisis situation as unrealistic and dangerous. Why is this problematic from a tactical and negotiation standpoint? With so much of the episode’s critique revolving around writing choices for suspense versus realism, do you think it’s possible for TV dramas to balance excitement and accuracy? Why or why not? The discussion touched on situational awareness, both in professional and personal life. How might increased public education on situational awareness benefit everyday safety? After watching this episode and listening to the breakdown, do you think shows like Criminal Minds help or hurt public perception of law enforcement, negotiation, and mental health crises? Why? Links from this Episode: Crisis Cop Podcast & Related Sites: Crisis Cop Podcast: https://crisiscop.com Crisis Cop Podcast Library: https://crisiscoppodcast.com Role Player & Crisis Negotiation Training: Blue Baggers Project – Professional role players for crisis negotiation training: https://bluebaggersproject.com Criminal Minds Viewing: Watch Criminal Minds on Hulu: https://www.hulu.com/series/criminal-minds-518564c2-380b-4f4e-acc1-7c75a59c8ad9 Paramount Plus: https://www.paramountplus.com/shows/criminal-minds/ Referenced Books & Authors: "Mindhunter" by John Douglas: https://www.amazon.com/Mindhunter-Inside-Elite-Criminal-Unit/dp/0671023850 "Whoever Fights Monsters" by Robert Ressler: https://www.amazon.com/Whoever-Fights-Monsters-Serial-Killers/dp/0312059412 "Dark Dreams" by Roy Hazelwood: https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Dreams-Legendary-Crimes-Investigator/dp/0312301439 Real-Life Case References & Negotiation: The Negotiator movie and real story review: https://twoguystalking.com/thenegotiator "Stalling for Time" by Gary Noesner (FBI Negotiator): https://www.amazon.com/Stalling-Time-Hostage-Negotiator-ebook/dp/B003F3PKTU/ National Tactical Officers Association: https://www.ntoa.org/ Mental Health & Psychology Resources: National Alliance on Mental Illness: https://www.nami.org/Home Information about Tardive Dyskinesia: https://www.ninds.nih.gov/health-information/disorders/tardive-dyskinesia Referenced TV Shows & Films: Flashpoint (negotiation-focused show): https://www.amazon.com/Flashpoint-Season-1/dp/B002EIQB4E The Wire (cop drama): https://www.hbo.com/the-wire True Blood: https://www.hbo.com/true-blood Beautiful Mind (film): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0268978/ Silence of the Lambs (film): https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0102926/ Podcast & Voice Broadcasting Services: EditorCore, for podcast editing: https://editorcore.com VoiceFarmers, for voice services: https://voicefarmers.com Show Contact & Feedback: Contact WhatCopsWatch.com: https://whatcopswatch.com/contact   Calls to the Audience Inside this Episode: — What do YOU think of storytelling that we are given nowadays inside of what Hollywood shovels to us? 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Tell us about them now and we’ll link to them and have them on a future episode of WhatCopsWatch.Com!   The Hosts of this Program: Morgan Krumeich Dr. Morgan Krumeich is a highly respected Clinical Psychologist and Crisis Negotiator, recognized for her expertise in working with first responders and law enforcement professionals. With a strong background in mental health care, she specializes in promoting wellness, resiliency, and effective crisis response among those who routinely face high-stress and traumatic situations. Based in Pittsburgh, Dr. Krumeich offers a blend of clinical skills and real-world application. She not only provides therapy and interventions, but also delivers training sessions designed to give law enforcement and EMS personnel the practical mental health tools they need to manage the rising tide of mental health calls in their daily work. 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High Stakes Decisions Crisis Negotiators Face: A Conversation with Jack Cambria

Jack Cambria spent 34 years in the New York City Police Department and is the longest-serving commander of the Hostage Negotiation Team. From his early days on patrol in Brooklyn, to scaling bridges with the Emergency Services Unit, and on through the pivotal moments of leading alongside negotiators through some of the city's toughest crises—including the aftermath of the 9/11 attacks—Jack Cambria shares firsthand stories and insights about what it takes to manage high-stakes negotiations and make life-saving decisions. In this conversation, you'll hear about the strategies and teamwork that define successful crisis negotiation, the emotional realities of working cases that don't always end well, and the importance of learning from both victories and mistakes. Jack Cambria offers advice for aspiring negotiators, shares memorable incidents from his long career, and candidly addresses the lessons developed in the field over decades. Whether you're in law enforcement, interested in negotiation tactics, or curious about the human side of policing, this episode promises to give you a rare glimpse behind the scenes with someone who helped shape the profession. Be sure to Like Subscribe and Share this episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network via WhatCopsWatch.Com...   The Crisis Cop Podcast Podcast Links Bar:  Connect with The Host!     Subscribe to This Podcast Now!   This program is one of the many parts of The WhatCopsWatch.Com Effort! Rate this podcast on Apple Podcasts. the Ultimate success for every podcaster is FEEDBACK! Not an Apple Podcasts user? No problem! Be sure to cherck out any of the other many growing podcast directories online to find this and many other podcasts on The 2GuysTalking Podcast Network!   Housekeeping -- The Editor Corps - Make Your Podcast Soar: There's only one question to ask: Why are YOU still editing your podcast? 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Read on below to find them all and remember to reach out to ask if there's something else you'd like to see from this episode!   Timestamps for This Episode of The Crisis Cop Podcast: 00:00 "Emergency Service: Multifunctional Unit" 10:01 "Negotiation Training: Essentials and Growth" 11:12 "Recognizing Crisis Transition Triggers" 20:16 "Rescue on the Kosciuszko Bridge" 21:38 "Detective Questions and Marital Tension" 29:16 Cross Complaint Investigation Unfolds 34:00 "Snipers, Glass, and Strategy" 41:11 "Waco Siege: 52-Day Standoff" 46:12 "Hostage Team Ride-Along" 49:34 Sniper Team Supervision Guidelines 58:10 "Negotiations Require Policing Experience" 58:58 "Experienced Negotiators and Crisis Resolution" 01:07:10 "Evolution of Negotiation Protocols" 01:10:33 Negotiation Legacy and Advocacy   Questions Answered Inside This Episode of Cops and Robbers Talk: Career Pathways: What were the pivotal moments in Speaker A’s career that led him from emergency service to leading the Hostage Negotiation Team, and how did those experiences shape his approach to crisis negotiation? Mentorship & Learning: How did mentorship play a role in Speaker A’s professional growth, and what can we learn from his reflections on learning both from skilled negotiators and those who made mistakes? Team Dynamics: According to the episode, what is the importance of teamwork in crisis negotiation, and how does the role of a coach during face-to-face negotiations impact the outcome? Body Language & Communication: How do negotiators use non-verbal cues and body language during high-stakes, face-to-face negotiations, such as jumper scenarios? Why is this skill critical? Decision Making: The episode discusses the transition from negotiation to tactical intervention. What factors influence this critical decision, and what does Speaker A mean when he says the subject is often the “true incident commander”? Dealing with Failure: What strategies do crisis negotiation teams use to process and learn from incidents that do not resolve successfully, and how does this affect future operations? Inter-Agency Collaboration: How does the relationship between tactical teams and negotiation teams impact the resolution of crisis situations? What challenges and solutions are discussed regarding East Coast vs. West Coast models? Portrayal in Media: Speaker A shares his experiences consulting for TV and movies. What are some common misconceptions about crisis negotiation in media, and which portrayals does he find more realistic? Qualities of a Negotiator: What characteristics and life experiences does Speaker A believe are essential for a successful police negotiator? How does empathy influence crisis negotiation outcomes? Legacy and Impact: Reflecting on the episode, what does Speaker A hope his legacy in the field will be, and what advice does he offer to negotiators about the real impact their work can have on people’s lives?   Links from this Episode: -- Get All of Pat's Books via Amazon Now!    - Crisis Cops: The Evolution of Crisis Negotiation in America      - Crisis Cop 2: More Stories from the Front Lines of Crisis Negotiation      - Calming the Chaos: My Life as a Crisis Negotiator in the St. Louis Area 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Link to the Network's homepage to provide listeners with more background. 2GuysTalking Podcast Network Jack Cambria Jack Cambria LinkedIn (For those interested in connecting with Gentleman Jack and learning more about his career) New York City Police Department (NYPD) Hostage Negotiation Team NYPD Official Site (Background on the department and its crisis negotiation efforts) Emergency Service Unit (ESU) NYPD ESU (Learn more about NYPD’s multifaceted tactical/rescue unit) Influencers & Key Figures Gary Noesner Gary Noesner’s Official Website (FBI Crisis Negotiator featured in the episode) Stalling for Time (Book) Icons of Influence Podcast Icons of Influence Negotiation Series (Hosted by Andy Prisco, featuring Gary Noesner & Jack Cambria) Captain Frank Bolz Interview with Frank Bolz (Learn about HNT #1 and the origins of the NYPD Hostage Negotiation Team) Training and Associations National Council of Negotiation Associations (NCNA) NCNA Info (National guidelines and best practices for crisis negotiation teams) BlueBaggers Project BlueBaggersProject.com (Get involved in crisis negotiation training as a role player/voice actor) Verbal De-escalation Course (General Info) Verbal Judo Institute (Resource for verbal de-escalation training mentioned in context) Case Studies & Related Incidents Dog Day Afternoon (Film) Dog Day Afternoon on IMDb (Movie based on a true NY bank hostage situation) Stockholm Syndrome (Film) Stockholm (2018) Movie (Story behind the origin of “Stockholm Syndrome”) Waco Siege Waco Siege History (Background info on the 1993 event discussed) Golden Gate Bridge – Kevin Briggs Kevin Briggs "Guardian of the Golden Gate Bridge" (Story of the officer mentioned towards the episode’s end) Podcast Network & Sponsors Two Guys Talking Podcast Network Two Guys Talking (Production home of CrisisCop) VoiceFarmers – Voiceover Services VoiceFarmers.com (Sponsor resource for voiceover and on-hold messaging) Perpetual Advertising – Podcast Sponsorship Two Guys Talking Sponsors (Learn about sponsor opportunities for podcasts) Be sure to Like, Subscribe & Share Everywhere!   ==== Connect with Pat Doering - The Crisis Cop Today! — Pat Doering on Facebook — Pat Doering on LinkedIn — Pat Doering on Instagram — Crisis Cop on the Web -- Crisis Cop on YouTube   ==== Help Us Tell People About 10+ Years of WhatCopsWatch.Com: On the Web: https://whatcopswatch.com/ At Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast.... 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