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The Loyalty Program That's Been Running for 11 Years, And Nobody's Copying It (with Nick Haertel from SupplyHouse.com) | Ep. 34

28 min · 28 de abr de 2026
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Most B2B distributors hear "loyalty program" and think DTC. SupplyHouse.com built one anyway — and it's been running for over a decade. Kyler Nixon [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylernixon/] sits down with Nick Haertel [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-haertel-b6a11821/], Director of Growth Marketing at SupplyHouse.com, to break down the TradeMaster Program: what it is, who it's for, and how it powers retention across every owned channel the company has. ㅤ The conversation covers TradeMaster's core benefits — free shipping, free returns, SKU-level discounts, and a dedicated customer service line — and then goes deep on the multi-channel strategy SupplyHouse runs to keep TradeMasters active: email, SMS, direct mail, surprise-and-delight gifting, and a brand-new inside sales team. The big idea: when a customer gets 10x as many touchpoints as they'd get from a competitor, there's really no contest for who wins the repeat order. ㅤ 👤 Guest Bio Nick Haertel [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-haertel-b6a11821/] is Director of Growth Marketing at SupplyHouse.com, a pure-play e-commerce distributor of HVAC, plumbing, and electrical supplies serving over 7 million customers across the U.S. Before joining SupplyHouse, Nick spent several years at Uline as Director of Digital Marketing — one of the most sophisticated catalog and direct mail operations in the country. He holds an MBA from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. ㅤ 📌 What We Cover * What the TradeMaster Program actually is — and why it's built for trades pros, not typical B2B buyers * How SupplyHouse uses first-party loyalty data to show TradeMaster-specific pricing in Google Ads — and why paying to retain existing customers is a calculated call, not a mistake * The two-track email strategy: a longer welcome journey for new members who haven't purchased yet, and a faster re-engagement sequence for customers showing drop-off behavior * Why SupplyHouse measures TradeMaster success as a rolling one-year unique buyer file — not just opens or clicks * How Nick thinks about SMS in B2B: start with transactional texts, let customers opt into what they want, and accept that the timing and cadence rules from email don't apply * The direct mail playbook: predicting lifetime value from a customer's first order (SKU type, order size, cross-category behavior) to decide who gets a TradeMaster invitation piece * Why SupplyHouse launched both a dedicated loyalty team and an inside sales team in the same year — and why those two functions are designed to work together * Kyler's synthesis of the full strategy: retention is about touchpoints, and distributors sitting on large house files are already holding the advantage ㅤ 🔗 Resources Mentioned * SupplyHouse.com TradeMaster Program [https://www.supplyhouse.com/trademaster] * Darn Good Distributors Episode 11 - Kristen Dean, Universal Companies [https://www.darngooddistributors.com] (SMS in B2B — referenced in conversation)

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They Spent $18,000 on a Mailer and Got $39,000 Back (with Mark Ryan from Plush in a Rush) | Ep. 37

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When a company grows by acquisition, the obvious risk is fragmentation. Fifteen cutting tool plants, each built by an entrepreneur who spent decades doing things their own way, don't automatically speak the same language. The challenge isn't the products. It's getting every part of the business to pull toward the same outcome. ㅤ That's the problem Kyler Nixon [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylernixon/] and Shane Hollenbaugh [https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-hollenbaugh-a907594/] dig into on this episode. Shane joined ARCH Cutting Tools in October 2025 as Chief Revenue Officer, five months in when this was recorded, and has already added eight new sales reps, established weekly plant-to-salesforce alignment calls, and built a system around one repeating question: what are you the best in the world at? ㅤ The conversation covers how Shane is deploying a salesforce across 15 manufacturing facilities, how platform-based load leveling cut carbide lead times to two to three weeks against an industry average of ten to twelve, and what actually separates a sales hire that wins from one that doesn't. ㅤ 👤 Guest Bio Shane Hollenbaugh [https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-hollenbaugh-a907594/] is the Chief Revenue Officer at ARCH Cutting Tools [https://www.archcuttingtools.com], a U.S.-based manufacturer of high-speed steel, tungsten carbide, PCD, and CBN cutting tools with 15 manufacturing facilities across the eastern United States. Shane brings nearly 30 years in the cutting tool industry, including 14 years at MAPAL and 11 years at YG-1 as Executive Director of Sales before taking on the CRO role at ARCH in October 2025. ㅤ 📌 What We Cover * How ARCH's acquisition model created a multi-plant alignment challenge and what Shane built in his first five months to address it * The "best in the world at" framework: why "we're good at everything" is a non-answer, and how pushing business unit managers to name one specialty changes how a salesforce gets deployed * Platform-based load leveling across ANCA, Walter, and Rollomatic grinding plants and how that gets carbide lead times to two to three weeks when the rest of the industry runs ten to twelve * The one interview question Shane asks every sales candidate, and what their body language tells him before they even finish answering * Why a candidate who asks about after-hours time during an interview is already raising a red flag, and what questions signal someone who actually wants to learn * The two rules Shane's first mentor drilled into him thirty years ago, including why being good at golf is grounds for termination ㅤ 🔗 Resources Mentioned * ARCH Cutting Tools [https://www.archcuttingtools.com] - ARCH's website, products, and rep locator * Shane Hollenbaugh on LinkedIn [https://www.linkedin.com/in/shane-hollenbaugh-a907594/] - Kyler specifically calls out Shane's LinkedIn presence as worth following

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Most distributors know they need better SEO. Very few have actually built a process around it. This episode goes deep on what it really takes: the wrong moves that cost money, the weighted analysis that told one distributor where to start, and why knowing your products is a prerequisite for any of it to work. ㅤ Kyler Nixon [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylernixon/] sits down with Amanda Clark [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-m-clark-a75a03136/] of Barron Equipment Company to trace her journey from copying manufacturer content onto a new website to growing organic traffic by nearly 3,000% in seven years. They cover the weighted analysis framework Barron uses to prioritize which products to optimize first, how to build internal buy-in for SEO investment before the data exists, and why the relationship with your manufacturer vendors is a direct competitive advantage. ㅤ 👤 Guest Bio Amanda Clark [https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-m-clark-a75a03136/] is Marketing Manager at Barron Equipment Company, a material handling distributor headquartered in Davenport, Iowa, founded in 1979. Barron serves Iowa and parts of Illinois and Nebraska, supplying everything from casters and dock equipment to industrial overhead doors. Amanda has been with Barron since 2018, driving the company's SEO, e-commerce, and content strategy. She holds a degree from the University of Iowa Tippie College of Business. ㅤ 📌 What We Cover * Why copying manufacturer product descriptions onto your website is a duplicate content risk, and what to do instead * The weighted analysis Barron built to decide which of their thousands of products to optimize first, factoring in margin, sales cycle, and keyword opportunity * How optimizing the industrial doors category page took Barron from one contact form per week to 12 per day * Why category and collection pages are lower lift and higher return than individual product pages for SEO * How Amanda built internal buy-in for SEO investment before she had hard data to back it up * The vendor relationship strategy Barron uses to stay ahead on new products, co-op funding, and content differentiation * Why product H1 naming matters, and how to use Semrush and Keywords Everywhere to find the name your customers actually search * Why web personas drive better content structure, from spec tables for engineers to different image types for safety managers * Why SEO principles carry directly into AEO, GEO, and LLM-driven search ㅤ 🔗 Resources Mentioned * Barron Equipment Company [https://www.barroneq.com/] * Semrush [https://www.semrush.com/] * Keywords Everywhere [https://keywordseverywhere.com/] * Screaming Frog [https://www.screamingfrog.co.uk/seo-spider/] * Ahrefs [https://ahrefs.com/] * WooCommerce [https://woocommerce.com/]

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episode The Loyalty Program That's Been Running for 11 Years, And Nobody's Copying It (with Nick Haertel from SupplyHouse.com) | Ep. 34 artwork

The Loyalty Program That's Been Running for 11 Years, And Nobody's Copying It (with Nick Haertel from SupplyHouse.com) | Ep. 34

Most B2B distributors hear "loyalty program" and think DTC. SupplyHouse.com built one anyway — and it's been running for over a decade. Kyler Nixon [https://www.linkedin.com/in/kylernixon/] sits down with Nick Haertel [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-haertel-b6a11821/], Director of Growth Marketing at SupplyHouse.com, to break down the TradeMaster Program: what it is, who it's for, and how it powers retention across every owned channel the company has. ㅤ The conversation covers TradeMaster's core benefits — free shipping, free returns, SKU-level discounts, and a dedicated customer service line — and then goes deep on the multi-channel strategy SupplyHouse runs to keep TradeMasters active: email, SMS, direct mail, surprise-and-delight gifting, and a brand-new inside sales team. The big idea: when a customer gets 10x as many touchpoints as they'd get from a competitor, there's really no contest for who wins the repeat order. ㅤ 👤 Guest Bio Nick Haertel [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nick-haertel-b6a11821/] is Director of Growth Marketing at SupplyHouse.com, a pure-play e-commerce distributor of HVAC, plumbing, and electrical supplies serving over 7 million customers across the U.S. Before joining SupplyHouse, Nick spent several years at Uline as Director of Digital Marketing — one of the most sophisticated catalog and direct mail operations in the country. He holds an MBA from the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. ㅤ 📌 What We Cover * What the TradeMaster Program actually is — and why it's built for trades pros, not typical B2B buyers * How SupplyHouse uses first-party loyalty data to show TradeMaster-specific pricing in Google Ads — and why paying to retain existing customers is a calculated call, not a mistake * The two-track email strategy: a longer welcome journey for new members who haven't purchased yet, and a faster re-engagement sequence for customers showing drop-off behavior * Why SupplyHouse measures TradeMaster success as a rolling one-year unique buyer file — not just opens or clicks * How Nick thinks about SMS in B2B: start with transactional texts, let customers opt into what they want, and accept that the timing and cadence rules from email don't apply * The direct mail playbook: predicting lifetime value from a customer's first order (SKU type, order size, cross-category behavior) to decide who gets a TradeMaster invitation piece * Why SupplyHouse launched both a dedicated loyalty team and an inside sales team in the same year — and why those two functions are designed to work together * Kyler's synthesis of the full strategy: retention is about touchpoints, and distributors sitting on large house files are already holding the advantage ㅤ 🔗 Resources Mentioned * SupplyHouse.com TradeMaster Program [https://www.supplyhouse.com/trademaster] * Darn Good Distributors Episode 11 - Kristen Dean, Universal Companies [https://www.darngooddistributors.com] (SMS in B2B — referenced in conversation)

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