Data with a Pulse Podcast
Episode #2: Dr. Thomas Simmer, MD — "The Human Algorithm in Healthcare" Data with a Pulse: The Human Dimension In this episode, Dr. Guy Hembroff, PhD sits down with Dr. Thomas Simmer, MD, physician, healthcare architect, and former Chief Medical Officer of Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, for one of the most candid, wide-ranging, and deeply human conversations in healthcare you'll hear this year. Dr. Simmer spent three decades at the intersection of clinical care, policy, and data-driven transformation. He pioneered the state's Patient-Centered Medical Home program, now a national model, and championed a philosophy that still challenges the industry today: you don't improve healthcare by judging physicians with data. You improve it by supporting them with it. In this conversation, you'll hear: 🔬 The moment that changed everything — a career-altering encounter with W. Edwards Deming’s book, Out of the Crisis, and the realization that medical harm wasn’t predominantly due to bad doctors. It was about bad processes. 🏥 The real story behind Michigan's PCMH — how a bold idea became the nation's most influential primary care transformation model, and why it almost never happened. 💊 Why financial incentives are killing healthcare — a provocative, evidence-backed argument that rewarding physicians for performance scorecards is not only ineffective but actively destructive to care quality. 🤖 AI in the exam room — where artificial intelligence genuinely augments clinical judgment, where automation bias becomes dangerous, and why "implement and walk away" is the worst thing any healthcare organization can do. 📱 The future of personal health records — are wearables, continuous glucose monitors, and real-time patient data finally bringing us to the era of true longitudinal health records? And what's still standing in the way? 🧠 Mental health and physical health — why treating them as separate systems causes real clinical harm, and what an integrated model of care actually looks like. 👨⚕️ A message to the next generation — what every future clinician and biomedical data scientist must understand about what data can and cannot tell you about the patient in front of you. And in our Pulse Check rapid-fire segment, coffee's surprising role in sparking the Renaissance, the best piece of advice Dr. Simmer ever received, the funniest moment of his executive career, and what he'd be doing if medicine had never called his name. This is a conversation that will make you think differently about the healthcare system, whether you're a clinician, a patient, health informaticists, biomedical data scientist, a policymaker, or simply someone who wants to understand how the decisions made in boardrooms shape medical care. Books mentioned in this episode: 1. Insanely Simple: The Obsession That Drives Apple's Success [https://www.amazon.com/Insanely-Simple-Obsession-Drives-Apples/dp/1591844835] * Ken Segall 2. Out of the Crisis [https://www.amazon.com/Out-Crisis-W-Edwards-Deming/dp/0262541157] * W. Edwards Deming 3. Uncommon Grounds: The History of Coffee and How It Transformed Our World [https://www.amazon.com/Uncommon-Grounds-History-Coffee-Transformed/dp/1541699386/ref=monarch_sidesheet_image] * Mark Pendergrast 4. Present at the Creation: My Years in the State Department [https://www.amazon.com/Present-Creation-Years-State-Department/dp/0393304124] * Dean Acheson 5. The Guns of August [https://www.amazon.com/Guns-August-Pulitzer-Prize-Winning/dp/0345476093] * Barbara Tuchman Data with a Pulse: The Human Dimension Podcast - is hosted by Dr. Guy Hembroff, a faculty researcher at Michigan Technological University and Director of the Biomedical Data Science Research Lab. [https://sites.google.com/mtu.edu/bdslab] New episodes explore the breakthroughs, challenges, and lived experiences at the intersection of healthcare, data science, technology, and human stories. Subscribe, leave a review, and send us your questions!
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