EP 10 — $3.5 billion in bitcoin-backed loans with zero liquidations: The institutional underwriting framework

EP 11 — Why true prime brokerage doesn't exist in crypto without top-five bank balance sheets | Adam Guren

Adam Guren [https://www.linkedin.com/in/adamguren/] built Hunting Hill Global Capital [https://huntinghill.com/] from a $10M friends-and-family fund in 2012 to $650M in AUM today, with 90% of risk now in crypto derivatives. Starting as an ETF arbitrage trader at a prop shop in 2005, he spotted GBTC's closed-end fund premium in 2016 and never looked back. As one of the few SEC-registered, New York-based managers trading crypto derivatives since the early days, Adam breaks down the infrastructure gaps that still prevent institutional capital from flowing freely between TradFi and crypto—and why those barriers are finally starting to crack. Topics Discussed: * Why Bank of New York's custody only supports Bitcoin and Ethereum, creating operational friction for active trading strategies * The missing prime brokerage infrastructure: why true cross-margining and balance sheet don't exist without top-five US banks * Digital asset treasury companies trading at 100%+ premiums: yield generation mechanics that ETFs and brokerages can't replicate * Cash-and-carry trades in perpetuals and futures as the primary yield generation mechanism across market-neutral strategies * Stablecoin yield shifting from illegal to standard practice in twelve months due to regulatory clarity post-election * Asset management consolidation accelerating: reverse solicitation from both crypto natives seeking scale and TradFi entering the space * Running eight-person team across five strategies: two market-neutral alpha, active index long-only, over-collateralized BTC/ETH credit, and strategic venture * The tokenization question: will Deribit and Coinbase overtake traditional exchanges, or will NYSE acquire crypto-native venues * T+0 settlement and 24/7 operations as structural advantages that TradFi infrastructure cannot replicate without years of rebuilding * Operating lean with senior talent through three crypto cycles using TradFi risk management discipline Listen to more episodes:  Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/derivatives-decoded/id1766534029]  Spotify  [https://open.spotify.com/show/05P7FHgsFhh7MMUUKRYiZ0?si=08133a2517e341cf] YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpCHWhQzC9wVdAQdtl0IuPQ] Website [https://www.kemettrading.com/]

EP 10 — $3.5 billion in bitcoin-backed loans with zero liquidations: The institutional underwriting framework

Two Prime [https://www.twoprime.com/] built one of the largest bitcoin-backed lending operations in the US by doing what collapsed lenders didn't: lending exclusively to institutions with provable bitcoin reserves. CEO Alexander Blume [https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexandersblum/] and CIO Nathan Cox [https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanielcox/] explain their credit framework that's processed $3.5 billion in loans with zero liquidations across 40 margin calls, how they structured products using derivatives to eliminate margin call requirements entirely, and why their systematic trading strategies generating 8-10% bitcoin-denominated yields became the second pillar of their $2.5 billion business. Their approach reveals what institutional-grade infrastructure actually requires when managing other people's bitcoin. Topics Discussed: * Credit infrastructure scaling $100M to $1.5B in loan origination within nine months using over-collateralization and institutional-only underwriting * Structured loan products engineered with derivatives overlays to eliminate margin call requirements while maintaining LTV discipline * Institutional borrower selection criteria: public companies with transparent bitcoin holdings versus retail credit risk vectors * Systematic strategy architecture combining CTA-style trend following, mean reversion, and volatility positioning for bitcoin yield generation * Custom OMS/EMS/PMS build requirements for simultaneous execution across 30-40 separately managed accounts with randomized order routing * Why separately managed account structure became product-market fit for public companies avoiding pooled investment vehicle tax events * Digital Asset Treasury categorization framework separating legitimate businesses from desperate pivots based on operational track record * Bitcoin-only collateral thesis rejecting ethereum and altcoins despite demand based on institutional volatility profile analysis * Institutional DeFi barriers that higher yields cannot overcome: custody gaps, AML/KYC requirements, and SOC compliance failures * Deribit liquidity concentration at 87% options flow and why competitive threats haven't materialized despite predictions Listen to more episodes:  YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpCHWhQzC9wVdAQdtl0IuPQ]

EP 9 — Cross-Asset Prime Brokerage: How Hidden Road Bridges Traditional Finance and Digital Assets

Institutional traders need infrastructure that works across both traditional and digital asset markets. Michael Higgins [https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-higgins-960a9810/] explains how Hidden Road [https://hiddenroad.com/] built pension fund-backed prime brokerage that processes $15 billion daily across CME futures and crypto venues, proving sophisticated cross-asset infrastructure can serve institutional flow regardless of market type. With regulatory capital requirements making crypto unviable for traditional banks, Hidden Road created an alternative model that positions counterparty credit risk as an investable asset class for institutional capital. When FTX collapsed, their exchange risk spread protection made clients whole immediately, demonstrating that properly structured institutional infrastructure works in digital assets. Topics Discussed: * Alternative funding models for institutional digital asset infrastructure * Cross-margining opportunities between traditional and crypto derivatives * Real-time risk management across fragmented institutional trading venues * Evolution of counterparty relationships from unregulated entities to institutional-grade operations * Integration challenges and opportunities between 24/7 digital markets and traditional business-hour settlement * Institutional adoption patterns and infrastructure requirements for sophisticated trading operations * Strategic rationale behind major infrastructure acquisitions in digital asset prime brokerage Listen to more episodes:  Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/derivatives-decoded/id1766534029]  Spotify  [https://open.spotify.com/show/05P7FHgsFhh7MMUUKRYiZ0?si=08133a2517e341cf] YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpCHWhQzC9wVdAQdtl0IuPQ]

EP 8 — MarketVector's Martin Leinweber on Building the Coin 50 Index for Institutions

The absence of primary listing exchanges in crypto creates challenges that most institutional players underestimate until they attempt to build derivative products at scale. Director of Digital Asset Research & Strategy Martin Leinweber [https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-leinweber-cfa-7758b012b/]’s transition from traditional bond portfolio management to crypto indexing at MarketVector [https://www.marketvector.com/] gives us unique insights into how institutional infrastructure must evolve to support sophisticated crypto derivatives trading.  His experience developing the Coin 50 index for Coinbase International highlights the complex technical and regulatory considerations required to create settlement-grade pricing data across fragmented crypto markets. Martin discusses how the technical infrastructure required to maintain real-time index calculations across hundreds of exchanges operating 24/7 presents challenges not found in traditional markets, particularly when exchanges experience outages or flash crashes that can corrupt settlement prices. Martin and Ash [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ash-/] explore how consolidation pressures from traditional finance players entering crypto will compete with the natural decentralization tendencies of DeFi protocols, potentially creating parallel ecosystems with different liquidity profiles and regulatory frameworks. Martin's vision of tokenized traditional assets converging with native crypto assets in decentralized wallets represents a shift in how institutional portfolio management may operate within the next decade.   Topics discussed: * The technical challenges of aggregating reliable pricing data from fragmented crypto exchanges without standardized listing protocols or API specifications. * Exchange vetting methodologies that apply traditional finance risk assessment frameworks to evaluate crypto venues for institutional-grade index construction. * How the Coin 50 index achieves 90% crypto market coverage with just 50 components while maintaining Bitcoin at a 50% weight cap for institutional risk management. * The convergence of centralized exchange consolidation with DeFi protocol proliferation and its implications for future liquidity distribution. * Real-time index calculation infrastructure requirements for 24/7 crypto markets, including outlier detection and exchange outage contingency protocols. * Regulatory framework evolution across jurisdictions and the shift from case-by-case token approvals to quantitative rule-based approaches for crypto basket products. * The integration of tokenized traditional assets with native crypto assets in decentralized wallet environments and its impact on institutional portfolio construction. * Market structure bill implications for US crypto derivatives markets and the potential expansion beyond single-token products to institutional basket strategies. Listen to more episodes:  Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/derivatives-decoded/id1766534029]  Spotify  [https://open.spotify.com/show/05P7FHgsFhh7MMUUKRYiZ0?si=08133a2517e341cf] YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpCHWhQzC9wVdAQdtl0IuPQ] Website [https://www.kemettrading.com/]

EP 7 — Deribit's Luuk Strijers on the Strategy Behind Their Global Expansion

The institutional crypto derivatives market has quietly evolved into a sophisticated ecosystem demanding infrastructure standards that most platforms simply cannot deliver. Luuk Strijers [https://www.linkedin.com/in/luuk-strijers-a474611/], CEO of Deribit [https://www.deribit.com/], has spent six years building the technical and operational foundation that now serves 75-80% of institutional derivatives volume globally. Their recent decision to accept Coinbase's acquisition offer after years of rejecting suitors highlights how the institutional adoption thesis is finally materializing at scale. Luuk also tells Ash [https://www.linkedin.com/in/ash-/] about his journey from Amsterdam capital markets through Singapore Exchange to crypto derivatives leadership, providing unique insight into what traditional institutions actually require from digital asset infrastructure. His explanation of portfolio margining implementation, multi-jurisdictional regulatory strategy, and the operational discipline required to maintain institutional trust offers practical guidance for anyone building in the institutional crypto space. Topics discussed: * The infrastructure complexity of processing billions of order book updates monthly across thousands of instruments during volatile market conditions and why platform performance remains the primary differentiator for institutional adoption. * Portfolio margining implementation that enables cross-instrument risk offsetting through volatility and price shock modeling, fundamentally changing capital efficiency for institutional options strategies. * The strategic geographic progression from Amsterdam to Panama to Dubai, driven by regulatory clarity requirements rather than tax optimization, and how jurisdictional decisions impact institutional client acquisition. * Why derivatives contracts create "marriage-like" ongoing obligations lasting up to a year, demanding entirely different operational standards, custody solutions, and risk management frameworks compared to spot trading platforms. * The technical architecture evolution from basic exchange infrastructure to dedicated hardware across 15 server racks, including multicast connectivity, AWS integration, and market maker protection systems that automatically manage order flow during extreme volatility. * Custody partnership strategy spanning seven institutional-grade providers, addressing the third-party money management requirements that separate institutional from proprietary trading operations. * The disciplined product focus that sacrificed retail volume opportunities and meme coin listings to maintain derivatives excellence, and why this specialization created unassailable competitive advantages. * Hub-and-spoke regulatory expansion model with Dubai as the central liquidity pool and regional licensing spokes in Europe, Brazil, and Asia, designed to maintain centralized liquidity while meeting local compliance requirements. * The M&A decision framework that led to accepting Coinbase's offer after years of rejections, including balance sheet requirements, regulatory advantages, and product suite completion that enables full institutional ecosystem coverage. * Operational risk management lessons from security incidents and the Three Arrows Capital exposure, demonstrating how institutional platforms must maintain higher operational standards due to long-term contractual obligations rather than transactional relationships. Listen to more episodes:  Apple [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/derivatives-decoded/id1766534029]  Spotify  [https://open.spotify.com/show/05P7FHgsFhh7MMUUKRYiZ0?si=08133a2517e341cf] YouTube [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCpCHWhQzC9wVdAQdtl0IuPQ] Website [https://www.kemettrading.com/]