Jo Hazell Watkins on Women's Strength as Desire Line

Under The Aqueduct: A Journey with Afon Dyfrdwy

This episode was created following a two-day arts and poetry event titled 'Under the Aqueduct' in aid of Afon Dyfrdwy (the River Dee) in Northeast Wales, which was in aid of the Dee Trust and supported by ETA CIC. Join Emily for conversations with Rob Hirst, Suzanne Iuppa and Natasha Borton, with poetry and musical contributions from Vivace Choir, Jenny Wilde Parkes, Sheryl Clowes, Geraint Jones and Ted Eames. Thanks also to Emma Jayne Holmes, who also co-organised our event and brought her wonderful visual art contributions to these conversations. The Walking Interlude preceding this episode titled 'Dyfrydwy Dreaming' is a companion piece to this journey, and a more meditative sound experience layering field recordings and music made with Jenny Wilde-Peake along the River Dee. Subscribe to stay up to date with future episodes, and follow @desirelinespodcast on Instagram to connect.

Walking Interlude: Dyfrdwy Dreaming

A sound journey made alongside Afon Dyfrdwy (the River Dee) which flows beneath the Pontcysyllte Aqueduct. This piece was made on a walk and in collaboration with musician Jenny Wilde-Parkes as part of the Walking Interludes project, an exploration of protected spaces in Wales. Taith sain a wnaed ar hyd Afon Dyfrdwy sy'n llifo o dan Draphont Pontcysyllte. Gwnaed y darn hwn ar daith gerdded ac mewn cydweithrediad â'r cerddor Jenny Wilde-Parkes fel rhan o brosiect Walking Interludes, archwiliad o fannau gwarchodedig yng Nghymru. © Emily Wilkinson & Jenny Wilde-Parkes 2026

Divergent Wayfinding: A Further Conversation with Dr Tamara Russell

In this episode, we continue our conversations with Dr. Tamara Russell. Tamara is a clinical psychologist, neuroscientist, martial artist and mindfulness trainer. She works as an academic and clinician, exploring the use of embodied mindfulness in the work of transformation and self-development. Our second conversation focuses in on neurodivergence and wayfinding, exploring the importance of environment in our quality of attention. We creatively try to navigate the tricky terrain of diagnosis, whilst coming up with some suggestions for valuing neurodivergent experience with more kindness. We reference Abigail Rose Clark's book Returning Home to Our Bodies. Find out more about the book at https://www.abigailroseclarke.com/ [https://www.abigailroseclarke.com/] FREE GIFT: Find Tamara's Compassionate To Do List online at https://sutra.co/space/qzn05v84 [https://sutra.co/space/qzn05v84]. You can also sign up to Tamara's Dragon Academy courses [https://sutra.co/space/f8kuw71h/content].

Walking Interlude: Osprey Return

Tune into this early spring walk around The Dyfi Osprey Project [https://www.dyfiospreyproject.com/]. Footsteps create a rhythm over boardwalks as the songs of bird kin make themselves known. Join chiffchaff, water rail, bluetits and geese in this short symphony of diversity. Moments of passing trains remind us of the inherent accessibility of this site, and the constant nearness of machinery. This soundscape was made just as the Ospreys return from their winter migrations. Gwrandewch ar y daith gerdded gynnar yn y gwanwyn hon o amgylch Prosiect Gweilch y Pysgod Dyfi [Gwrandewch ar y daith gerdded gynnar yn y gwanwyn hon o amgylch Prosiect Gweilch y Pysgod Dyfi. Mae camau traed yn creu rhythm dros lwybrau pren wrth i ganeuon adar teuluol wneud eu hunain yn hysbys. Ymunwch â'r siff-saff, rhegen y dŵr, titwod glas a gwyddau yn y symffoni fer hon o amrywiaeth. Mae eiliadau o drenau'n mynd heibio yn ein hatgoffa o hygyrchedd cynhenid y safle hwn, ac agosrwydd cyson peiriannau. Crëwyd y dirwedd sain hon wrth i'r Gweilch y Pysgod ddychwelyd o'u mudo gaeaf.]. Mae camau traed yn creu rhythm dros lwybrau pren wrth i ganeuon adar teuluol wneud eu hunain yn hysbys. Ymunwch â'r siff-saff, rhegen y dŵr, titwod glas a gwyddau yn y symffoni fer hon o amrywiaeth. Mae eiliadau o drenau'n mynd heibio yn ein hatgoffa o hygyrchedd cynhenid y safle hwn, ac agosrwydd cyson peiriannau. Crëwyd y dirwedd sain hon wrth i'r Gweilch y Pysgod ddychwelyd o'u mudo gaeaf. Birdsong contributions / Cyfraniadau canu adar: Scott Roe (local ecologist / ecolegydd lleol, Lee Alder (xeno-canto.com) and David Darrell Lambert (xeno-canto.com).

Jo Hazell Watkins on Women's Strength as Desire Line

Jo Hazell Watkins is a trauma-informed strength trainer and co-founder of The Soma Space in Oswestry, UK. In a previous career, Jo worked as a textiles designer before significant life events and a period of ill health re-orientated her towards the use of the body for healing. In this episode, Emily and Jo talk about women's strength as a desire line, unpicking narratives around strength and our conditioning as women. We encourage listeners of all genders to tune into this conversation, as the themes are wide -ranging and pertinent to co-creating kinder futures. https://www.instagram.com/jo_somaspace/ [https://www.instagram.com/jo_somaspace/] https://www.instagram.com/thesoma.space/ [https://www.instagram.com/thesoma.space/] https://www.thesoma.space/ [https://www.thesoma.space/]