Discourse: The Grabbing Back podcast

Nancy has spent her career working towards social justice and the realisation of universal human rights in fields ranging from mental health and poverty eradication to refugee protection. Until July she was the CEO of the charity Stonewall and as such worked as part of the movement in the UK and around the world. She is now helping small start up organisations in the same fields.We talked about where the backlash comes from, what the solution is (if any), the historical evidence of backlash against various activist movements and so many more incredibly interesting and timely things.Finally, thank you for coming with us on the journey of listening to our podcast this season. We delved into Money, Nature, the Body and the Home from a feminist lens and we’re so proud of what we produced. If you haven’t, go to our website to read our articles and definitions as well as going back to episodes you may have missed, and if you know anyone that might be interested or benefit from Grabbing Back - send them our way! See you in the next season! Resources mentioned * Stone Butch Blues [https://www.amazon.co.uk/Stone-Butch-Blues-Novel-Large/dp/1459608453] by Leslie Feinberg * The Feminist Killjoy Handbook [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/the-feminist-killjoy-handbook-sara-ahmed/7218445?ean=9780241619537] by Sara Ahmed  * Trans+ History Week [https://www.transhistoryweek.com/]

For today's episode, we sat down with Dr. Mary-Ann Stephenson, Director of the Women’s Budget Group, to discuss women and money. The UK Women’s Budget Group [https://wbg.org.uk/] is the UK’s leading feminist economics think tank that provides evidence and proposes policy alternatives for a gender-equal economy. They are the link between academia, the women’s voluntary sector and progressive economics think tanks. In this episode we talk about the financial repercussions of unpaid are, the impact of austerity on gender equality, the flaws of classic economics theory and the importance of reforming our childcare system. We also discuss financial abuse, if you'd like to skip this part, it's from minute 30:00 to minute 38:30. 1 in 5 women in the UK experience financial abuse, if you or someone you know needs help, consult the resources on Surviving Economic Abuse [https://survivingeconomicabuse.org/i-need-help/]. Discussed in this episode: * Universal Credit and financial abuse: exploring the links [https://wbg.org.uk/analysis/reports/universal-credit-and-financial-abuse-exploring-the-links/] * A Home of Her Own: Housing and Women [https://wbg.org.uk/analysis/reports/a-home-of-her-own-housing-and-women/] Recommended books: * Doughnut Economics: Seven Ways to Think Like a 21st-Century Economist [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/doughnut-economics-seven-ways-to-think-like-a-21st-century-economist-kate-raworth/2694262?ean=9781847941398] by Kate Raworth  * Who Cooked Adam Smith's Dinner?: A Story About Women and Economics [https://uk.bookshop.org/p/books/who-cooked-adam-smith-s-dinner-a-story-about-women-and-economics-katrine-marcal/4280994?ean=9781846275661] by Katrine Marcal (Translated by Saskia Vogel) You can find us on our website [https://www.grabbingback.com/], instagram [https://www.instagram.com/grabbing_back/] and twitter [https://twitter.com/grabbing_back] to keep up with new episodes, articles and definitions.

On today's episode we are joined by Laura Danger, a licensed educator, certified coach and creator from Chicago who has been teaching and facilitating for over 12 years. Laura, also known by her social media handle as thatdarnchat [https://www.instagram.com/thatdarnchat/], uses her incredibly successful social presence to empower overwhelmed caregivers to value their own time and the priceless care labour they provide. She popularised the term Weaponised Incompetence (referring to people, mainly men, who deliberately do a task poorly in order to not be asked to do it again) and regularly speaks of domestic labour, sexism and systems of oppression. In this episode, we delve into all of this and the nuances of hyper-individualism, class, intersectionality and feminism within domestic labour and the obsession with the nuclear family. Texts discussed: -⁠Emotional Labor by Rose Hackman⁠ [https://www.overdrive.com/media/8906293/emotional-labor] -⁠Fair Play by Eve Rodsky⁠ [https://www.fairplaylife.com/the-book] -⁠How We Show Up by Mia Birdsong⁠ [https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/mia-birdsong/how-we-show-up/9781580058063/?lens=hachette-go#:~:text=Through%20research%2C%20interviews%2C%20and%20stories,help%2C%20and%20in%20being%20accountable.] Texts mentioned: -⁠Hood Feminism by Mikki Kendall⁠ [https://thefeministbookshop.com/products/copy-of-hood-feminism] -⁠The Secret History of Home Economics by Danielle Dreilinger [https://wwnorton.com/books/9781324021865]

On today's episode we're joined by Andrea Sempértegui, Assistant Professor of Politics at Whitman College and a member of the anti-extractive collective Comundisis based in Quito, Ecuador. She focuses on indigenous politics, environmental and feminist movements, struggles over territory and natural resource extraction and decolonial thought in Latin America. Her essays have appeared in the likes of New York Review of Books and Verso. We delve into the importance of women in the climate struggle, the initial logic behind extractivism and what is being done to fight it and why the women leading this fight don't call themselves feminists. Andrea is currently working on her book, Earthed Politics: The Mujeres Amazónicas’ Fight against Extractivism in Ecuador. Texts mentioned: * Feminismos del sur y ecofeminismo by Maristella Svampa [Feminismos del Sur y ecofeminismo] * Caliban and the Witch by Silvia Federici [chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://files.libcom.org/files/Caliban%20and%20the%20Witch.pdf] (you can also find a deep dive explainer on this text on our website here [https://www.grabbingback.com/read/extended-version-caliban-and-the-witch])

Welcome to Series 2 of Discourse: The Grabbing Back Podcast! We are so excited to be starting this season with such a fantastic episode with guests Julia Serano and Talia Mae Bettcher. We discuss, amongst many ideas, the perceptions and readings of our bodies, the cultural specificity of boundaries and how they tend to affect women more than men and how femininity is considered quote-unquote artificial in a similar way to transness, and how dangerous that can be. Trigger warnings: transphobia and sexual assault. Talia is an expert on feminist philosophy, transgender studies and philosphy of personhood. She’s a professor at California State University and her upcoming book is Intimacy and Illusion: An Essay in Trans Philosophy. Julia is a writer, performer, activist, musician and biologist, she is best known for her book Whipping Girl and her upcoming book is titled Sexed Up: How Society Sexualises us and how we can Fight Back. Texts mentioned and discussed: * Full‐Frontal Morality: The Naked Truth about Gender [https://philarchive.org/rec/BETFMT-2] by Talia Mae Bettcher (2012) * Playfulness, World-Travelling and Loving Perception [https://philpapers.org/rec/LUGPWA-2] by Maria Lugones (1987) * What Does it Cost to Tell the Truth [chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://sites.middlebury.edu/soan191/files/2013/08/wilchinsReadMyLips2.pdf] by Riki Anne Wilchins (1997) * Homogenizing Versus Holistic Views of Gender and Sexuality by Julia Serano - Chapter 13 of Excluded [https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/julia-serano/excluded/9781580055055/?lens=seal-press] (2013) * The Difference Sameness Makes: Objectification, Sex Work, and Queerness [https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/hypa.12111] by Ann J. Cahill GET TICKETS FOR OUR UPCOMING POETRY LIVE EVENT HERE [https://www.grabbingback.com/events/poetry-night].