Don't Tell Me Your Major

EPISODE NOTES [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath] Malena: Hey guys, my name is Malena Ramnath. Allison: I'm Allison Rhee. Malena: And we are your hosts and juniors here at Northwestern. This is Don't Tell Me Your Major, an interview podcast where we avoid getting to know people on the surface level with questions like what their major is, where they're from, and how old they are, but try to get to know them on a more profound level. That's how you really know the kind of person someone is rather than judging them based on pre-established stereotypes. So, last time listeners, two years ago, – if you can believe it – we had our last podcast about Valentine's Day. We asked “What did you do for Valentine's Day?,” “Do you believe in soulmates?,” “What's your favorite romantic movie, love song, and flower?,” and “Is love at first sight real?” But now Allison and I are in very different places in our lives, cuffed now to two different men than we were with two years ago, in long term relationships, and I’d just say things have changed. And so I really wanted to revisit Valentine's Day, and kind of how our perspectives on it have changed and kind of how our view of love has changed based on our new experiences now. So to start off, how did you spend your Valentine's Day this year? Allison: Um, well, Valentine's Day is only like a week or so after my one year anniversary. So we went out for that. And then Valentine's Day was on a Monday this year. And the Superbowl was on Sunday, so we decided to just go a little more low-key. So we just ordered a party platter of sushi and then we had chocolate covered strawberries and watched The Haunting of Hill House. So it was… it was really casual. Malena: I can't stand horror movies, so I don't know why that's cute. But no, I get it. It's like “Oh, I'm scared” and then you get cuddles. I hate horror movies. They give me horrible nightmares. But I do appreciate a casual Valentine's Day because I will say once you've been with someone for a while, like you just start to appreciate that stuff more, I think. Allison: Yeah. Malena: Yeah, Valentine's Day for me, I am posh and I'll take any occasion to have him spend money on me. And so we decided to go to Etta which is a restaurant in River North I've been dying to go to. However, on Valentine's Day I get a call saying that my boyfriend tested positive for COVID. I tested positive two days afterwards. So we've been in quarantine for two whole weeks. Just got out, recording this podcast and we're going to the dinner tomorrow.  Allison: Oh, that’s nice. Malena: Yeah. Instead, he sent me, to the hotel room I was quarantining in, he had sparkling juice and chocolate covered strawberries and like my favorite ice cream delivered to me and some roses, which I thought was really cute. Allison: Sparkling juice? Malena: Yeah, sparkling. Yeah. I mean, I'm under 21. He's not but he had that delivered to me. And so what, you know, based on – I had chocolate, we both had chocolate covered strawberries –but what do you think is the best Valentine's Day food to get or receive? Like edible arrangements, chocolates? Chicken wings? Allison: Chicken wings? I would – probably not. I mean, I like chicken wings. I just I don't know if I would want them for Valentine's Day. I'm not a big like, pure chocolate person. Like I don't eat like chocolate bars. I think chocolate covered strawberries are always the best bet, but when you buy them they're so expensive for no reason. Some rustic homemade chocolate covered strawberries, I think that’d be, that’s the perfect gift. Malena: I did appreciate my favorite ice cream. It's Cherry Garcia, Ben and Jerry's, listeners  – in case you ever want to hit me up with some gifts for your loyal host. But I also like edible arrangements. Because it's like you get the vibes of like having a nice set of flowers, but it's edible. So it's like practical, they don't just like sit on your shelf and die like flowers, you know? And they do come with chocolate covered strawberries and like pineapples and things like that. So… Allison: I can make you that for like probably half the price.  Malena: If you wanted to. It's the price of your time, Allison.  Allison: That's true.  Malena: That’s what the issue is. Okay, on a more serious note, though. How do you think love - so you've been in a relationship with Noah. Hi, Noah! Sorry, I'm trying to be best friends with him. But you've been in a relationship for a little over a year now. I have my two year mark on Friday. How do you think love changes over the course of a one or two year relationship? Allison: I definitely think in the beginning of a relationship, it's more like butterflies and I'm so shy. I'm so nervous around you and like trying to always look your best or like, act your best. But I think that that might be sustainable in like shorter relationships. Once you reach like a point where you've been together for over a year or two years, you can't hide those things about yourself. You know, like they have to see you as you are. That's why I feel like – I've read this like, I listen to this podcast or some Tiktok about how around this six month mark or one year mark that's when a lot of couples break up because like you can't avoid who you are at that point. So if you're like, if you don't like the person that your partner is, you know, you'll realize that around then. So I think love changes, and you become a lot more comfortable and like real with the other person the longer that you're in a relationship. Malena: Yeah, I'm kind of hitting that point, too. This is my first like, really, really long relationship. And the first time I've got to a point where it's like, it's just your best friend at a certain point. It's like, I mean, obviously, there still is like, some romantic, I'm attracted to you element there. But really, it's just like your best friend. Like, I just want to come home and gossip in bed next to you. I don't want to do anything else after. So that's definitely an element. But then I think it's also like, it's interesting how you can almost get too comfortable. Like, sometimes you gotta, you gotta remember to mix it up a little bit. And stuff like that, which is weird. Like, I'm 20. I didn't think I would need to, like, add spice to anything. But it is funny how you get into your routines and stuff. Even at such a young age. But then the follow up to that is, do you think it's the same with a friendship? Like, because when you’re first – I felt like when I was first thinking about this – when you're first friends with someone, you're like, worried about hurting their feelings, like tiptoeing around them, but then you get so comfortable, you can kind of just say and do whatever. Allison: Yeah, like kind of, I guess. I think relationships in general, just like friendships and romantic relationships mirror each other a lot. I think one thing is like, you have a lot more like – how do I say this – you're probably aren't as invested in the little small things about your friendship as you are in a relationship. You know what I mean, so like, if I had a friend and we were friends for a really long time, and like, at a certain point, I realized like, “Oh, we're not that compatible,” it's not like the end of the world. You know, you can still be friends with someone like that and still probably maintain a close enough friendship. But with a romantic relationship, once you reach a point where you're like, “Oh, I don't think we're that compatible.” It's like, you kind of have to end it. Or it's not as casual. Malena: Yeah, you can't like grow out of it. It's kind of like it has to be a sudden rupture. Yeah,  I can see how that's different. Um, okay. I'm definitely thinking about this more and more as I get to be with people for longer in college. Because I feel like… some of my guy friends, I spend a lot of time with them, too, and like, they have their quirks and I'm like, “Okay, I can forgive this now. But if I just met you, and you were doing this, I don't know.” You know what I mean? Allison: Oh, yeah, it's true. It's like, you're okay with it because you know them.  Malena: Yeah.  Allison: Yeah. Malena: Okay, but on a lighter note. On a lighter note to wrap it up. And so that the listeners out there, if you want to take your girls on a date, we would really appreciate it. Because, you know, a free evening on the town. Always, always appreciated. Allison: You can take Malena out.  Malena: I mean… Allison! Okay, but anyway, so this is my last question. What would be your favorite date that you haven't been on yet? Allison: Um, I think I’d really like to travel somewhere. I guess it’s more of a trip than a singular date. But I think traveling somewhere new would be nice, because I'd really love to go places. A little more low-key, a cooking class. Malena: Oh, a cooking class would be kind of cool. I feel like it would be… Allison: I do love cooking. Malena: It might be kind of cringy, though. Like, if there's like a weird crowd. You know?  Allison: Oh what, like, old people?  Malena: I don't know, you can't discriminate against old people. Maybe like, you know, for lack of a better word, like a Karen. You know, who’s like, “How do I do this? How do I do this?” Allison: Oh, that’s true.  Malena: You know, over and over?  Allison: Maybe an advanced cooking class. Malena: I mean, Allison is probably going to culinary school later. So…  Allison: We'll see.  Malena: Well, that's what she's been talking about for a while. So, you know, maybe it'll end up happening so she can take the advanced one. I’ll be in beginners trying to make an omelet. I think my ideal date…Oh, I always really wanted to go to a Michelin star restaurant. If any of my listeners really loves my podcast and wants to donate to the Malena really wants to go to Alinea fund, please feel free to do that. I know. But anyways, thank you, Allison.  Allison: Thank you. Malena: We're so glad to have you back. She's been abroad, so we finally have her back as our third host. Hopefully, you'll be hearing from Hannah soon and once again, this has been a North by Northwestern podcast. Happy Valentine's Day everybody! Allison: Happy Valentine's Day! [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath]

EPISODE NOTES [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath] Malena: Hey guys! My name is Malena Ramnath. Hannah: I'm Hannah Fredly. Malena: And we are your hosts and juniors here at Northwestern. This is Don't Tell Me Your Major, an interview podcast where we avoid getting to know people on the surface level with questions like what their major is, where they're from, and how old they are, but try to get to know them on a more profound level. That's how you really know the kind of person someone is rather than judging them based on pre-established stereotypes. Today we would like to welcome our guest Nate Sowder, who is a student here at Northwestern. Say hi Nate!  Nate: Hello. Malena: Thank you so much for coming onto our podcast, and today we will be discussing movies seeing as now as the the pandemic is ending, we can all start going to movie theaters again and so many good movies are coming out right now – such as Dune and The French Dispatch, and pretty much anything with Timothée Chalamet in it. So, I guess we'll just get started with the questions. Since we're diving in kind of profound, I'm gonna answer the first question first. The first question is what movie has changed your perspective on things the most? For me, personally, that movie was Ladybird.” It talks a lot about a girl's relationship with her mom and her father growing up in a family that's like really close together, but she's trying to become more independent. And for me, that reflected a lot of my life, I'm very close with my parents. And so it was difficult to become more independent and to leave for college, and kind of the nuances that came along with that. And it kind of just represented how your parents ultimately just love you so much. And that leads to a lot of conflict and a lot of happiness in family life. And that really resonated with me at the time. I watched it with my mom – we just both ended up in tears. So yeah, that was the movie that changed my perspective on things the most. And Hannah, what was the movie that changed your perspective on things the most? Hannah: I think I would say Beautiful Boy, which Timothée Chalamet also happens to be in. Malena: Yeah, classic. Hannah: But he’s a good actor and, and I think  Beautiful Boy was really, really cool because it looks at you know, drug use and stuff like that. And it sort of just gives you like a glimpse into a life of what it's like. And it really puts you in his shoes. And it's a really cool thing to sort of experience what it would be like to have a life like that. And also it looks at parental love. And you know, if you want to help someone, all that stuff, so it's really cool.  Malena: Yeah. What about you Nate? Nate: I'm gonna have to go with a classic with It's A Wonderful Life – the old Christmas movie. And I don't know  if I would call this one life changing as much as life defining in the fact that it's a tradition in our family to watch that movie every Christmas holiday.  As I'm sure it is a tradition in a lot of families because it's like, public domain or whatever. But it's a really fantastic movie. That one, speaks to me a lot about the value of family, both, you know, from the movie standpoint as a movie, like emphasizing the importance of family, and also the fact that it was a familial experience every time I would watch it with my family. So both of those things really spoke to me. And obviously, also the fact that the movie, it just speaks a lot that there's always something we're like, you know, there's always something worth living for. Another thing I really like about the movie is that it really shows that life is worth living. And that's something I think that's sacred and valuable. And it's sometimes easy to forget in the business of life, but I think this movie speaks to it in a very simple and pure way.  Hannah: Yeah, it makes you like appreciate life. Malena: Yeah, yeah. And I mean, that's kind of the same thing with Beautiful Boy, like, personally, like, I don't have a past with drugs. But there's plenty of people around us who do and it really like, allows us to put ourselves in their shoes, you know. And in Beautiful Boy, he kind of realizes that there's more to life than drug use, like no matter – kind of – how deep of a hole he's in. Hannah: Yeah, and you realize how fragile life is.  Malena: Yeah, so a lot of commentary on that. And those movies are really good. I've seen both of them. And they're pretty good. So my next question for you guys is what moment in your life – so there's this kind of classic line that everyone jokes about, it's kind of cliche, it’s like, oh, my life is such a movie, you know? Because you just kind of imagine yourself in a movie or music video when things are going well in your life or something like that. So my question for you guys is what moment in your life has felt most like a movie scene?  Hannah: You should go first.  Malena: Of course, I should go first. Of course, I should go first. Um, I've been having a lot of moments like that recently. I think college is very, like kind of a culminatory experience where you're kind of just living with your friends. You're independent. You're getting to study what you want to study. You're kind of... it's a very like coming of age moment. And I watch a lot of coming of age movies. They're probably my favorite movie. So I've been feeling like I've had a lot of moments like this recently. I remember one moment in particular was I was just walking down the street the other day, and all the fall leaves are turning like kind of their orange and yellow colors. And it's snowing. And I was listening to classical music in my headphones. And just walking down the street, kind of like to this soundtrack that I felt was like very movie-esque. I don't know, it was just very picturesque, like with the fall leaves in the snow. It felt also very, like fleeting, you know, just because the snow and the leaves – that all felt like very temporary, and it was a really cool moment. Hannah: Yeah, a lot of the movies I watch are like Interstellar or like Tenet - also same director. None of my life resembles that. Yeah, anyway, those are also like very sci fi-esque movies. But if I had to choose a moment, I feel like anytime I'm in a car, I just feel like I’m in a movie. It's raining outside. You're in the car, sort of like looking out the window. That's when I feel like I’m in a movie. Nate: I'm gonna take something from both of yours, both the car part and the music part, and relate it back to one of my first memories at Northwestern, one of my oldest friends at the school. We had met during this excursion to Chicago, and we were taking the bus back up to campus. And we were listening to J. Cole. We both like J. Cole. And we were just sitting in the back of the bus, listening to J. Cole and just like talking about what we liked about the song and it was just in retrospect, it was a very, like, movie-esque moment. And it was a cool moment. Malena: For what it's worth that person was me. And yes, we did miss our bus stop listening to J. Cole. We ended up like a half a mile into this random part of Evanston. It was very strange. But we had a good time. It was a good moment. Okay, and kind of for our last question for today. My question for you guys is if someone could play you in a movie of your life, who would you choose?  Hannah: Oh, I have no idea. Let me think about this.  Malena: Okay. I mean, I've always said– Hannah: Can we choose a boy? Malena: Yeah, of course! Of course.  Nate: Danny Devito. Malena: Danny Devito! Nate: Enough said. Malena: No, I mean– Hannah: Oh I know! What's her name? The one that's like older and plays in every single movie. Malena: That’s kind of everyone! Hannah: It’s a woman. Malena: Keira Knightley? Hannah: No, no, no, she's older than that. Malena: Maggie Smith? Hannah: I'll figure it out. Say yours. Malena: Okay, Hannah's gonna quick look hers up. I've always said Hannah looks a lot like Keira Knightley. For what it's worth, even though you guys can't picture her beautiful face through the podcast.  Hannah: Oh, thank you! I’m blushing. Malena: I know. I would have in the movie of my life, Tina Fey. I think she is exactly like me. She is, you know, a nerdy, really cool woman with dark features. Like, she grew up in Evanston, too. She worked at the YMCA here. She’s just got a fantastic sense of humor, kind of clumsy and all over the place, but at the same time, very professional, and ultimately put together when it counts. So Tina Fey – my main woman. Hannah: I found the person I was thinking of. It was Meryl Streep. Nate: I was going to say that! I was like there’s no way she actually means Meryl Streep. Malena: She actually means Meryl Streep! Hannah: No, but she would definitely play me when I was like, old or something. But like Meryl Streep. Malena: Like the Mamma Mia woman, you know. Hannah: Yeah, yeah.  Malena: People living on a Greek island. Because that's where you hope to be is the Mamma Mia lifestyle? I respect that. I respect that. Nate, what about you? He whips out Ryan Gosling. Nate: Hey, you know, such as, such as the way when you know, when you have someone with such a – you need someone that can really fill your role. No, I was actually honestly I was just looking up Michael Cera in Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. I feel like he has a very cool energy. And I don't know if I seem like him in that movie, but I feel like him a lot. Like I relate so heavily to his character in that movie. So it would be an honor to let him play me. Malena: Yeah, he's kind of like nerdy and charming at the same time, I think.  Nate: Bingo. Malena: I think that fits you quite well actually. And Meryl Streep is very – she has like an elegance about her that – I've always said Hannah is the most elegant person I know. So I also understand why... Hannah: Getting so many compliments! Malena: No, but I've always I've always said that about Hannah so I could see why that Meryl Streep character kind of fits around your personality. Anyways, that was all the questions I have for you guys today. Thank you so much to Nate for joining us. Thank you to Hannah for being my wonderful amazing through the podcast co-host. Hannah: Thank you Malena for hosting! Malena: And this has been Don't Tell Me Your Major brought to you by North by Northwestern Audio. Have a good one guys. Bye! [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” by Malena Ramnath]

EPISODE NOTES Form: https://forms.gle/XY41oQSrGpBBxEXD8 [https://forms.gle/XY41oQSrGpBBxEXD8][“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath] Malena: Hey guys! My name is Malena Ramnath. Hannah: My name is Hannah Fredly. Malena: And we're your hosts and sophomores here at Northwestern. This is Don't Tell Me Your Your Major, an interview style podcast where we avoid getting to know people on the surface level with questions like what their major is, where they're from, and how old they are, but try to get to know them on a more profound level. That's how you really know the kind of person someone is rather than judging them based on pre-established stereotypes. We're also joined today by Asteris Dougalis, who is currently a sophomore here at Northwestern, although we won't tell you what his major is. Say hi, Asteris. Asteris: Hey everybody. I'm glad to be here. Malena: So today Asteris, I thought we'd have a little themed discussion as usual, as per the norm of this podcast. And I thought we'd play around with the idea of definitions, because for me, I feel like there's a lot of different ways you can use the root of the word definition – like definition, definite, definitively, define, you know, and you can use those in all kinds of different contexts. So, I thought that that would be like a cool way to base our questions off of. So we'll start off easy with a chill question. And it's: What is your favorite word? And what is its definition? And I’ll go first to give you guys like, a little time to think, you know, but so my word is going to be a little pretentious. And it's okay if your guys’ is too, but my word is halcyon. I think it's from Greek mythology – I don't know why I think that – but um, it's the idea of like, the good old days in the past that are like shiny and golden in your mind. And, for me, I'm a very nostalgic person. So that's why that's my favorite word. It just reminds me of the good old days. So I thought that that was cute. Asteris: What are the good old days for you? What do you think when you think about this? Malena: Freshman year? I don't know, I just, I felt like – not to say that I peaked. I think I feel like we are in the middle of the good old days, which is kind of a really great thing to recognize while you're in them because a lot of times you don't. But there was like a carefreeness to freshman year where, like, it's before I'm recruiting for jobs, you know. Before I, like, really start caring about my GPA – when you're just meeting people and, like, everything's an exciting, independent, like blur. And also, you're getting all your meals cooked for you in the dorm. So I think that's what it would be. But okay, Hannah, what is your favorite word? Hannah: So I think my favorite word is hygge. And it's a Norwegian word. Originally Danish, though. And so I'm Norwegian. And it just like it technically, if you've seen these posts before that are words you can’t translate from other languages. It's this word, and it means cozy, warm — “Enjoying yourself” is the closest I can get to it.  Malena: Dude, that sounds cozy. Not to sound just repeating what you're saying. But, you know, being like, bundled in blankets and stuff. That's the vibe. Right?  Hannah: Exactly.  Malena: I feel like that's something that IKEA markets about. Not to, you know. I feel like I've seen the name as like a blanket in IKEA. Asteris: That’s true. IKEA is a place where everyone has positive memories in, you know, because it's always starting something new. All that. I think my word is a little less, maybe, profound than yours. I say aforementioned because in every single essay I always use “aforementioned this”, “aforementioned that”... So I think you know, they talk about forensic linguistics and all those things where they can see like the tracking of how you write on those things. Definitely “aforementioned” for me is a telltale sign of my writing. So I guess that's my favorite word.  Malena: Yeah. So they always know if you're doing, like, academic dishonesty or you're writing someone else's essays, because like you've written aforementioned.  Asteris: Shhh, don’t tell anybody. Malena: Okay, okay, so like moving on, we're gonna get progressively deeper with these questions. Hopefully, we're gonna like probe into your souls a little. Okay, that sounds not great. Anyways, moving on. I think the next question that I have for you guys is like, what is the important, the most important thing that you know definitively? Like that, you know, that you know it is definitely true that this is the case. And it can be a random fact that gets you through daily life. Or it could be words of wisdom that you just know, in your heart. Do any of you guys want to go first? Do you need more time to think about it? Asteris: I think I have one. I'd say one thing that I definitely know, and I'm glad I have this as a  constant, is the fact that you know, my parents love me, like, family love, I guess. Because I know that no matter what happens at any point, I’ll always have that condition. That my parents and my brother are gonna love me. And I think that's important to have. And I recognize it's not something every family has, but I'm so glad that it is that I feel that way in my family. And I think I want to try and continue that in my future when I'm building a family. You know, make sure that my kids know, that's how it's going to be that no matter what they do, I'm always going to be there to support them and love them. Hannah: Yeah, that's super important. I agree. Although– Malena: I think there's some little stuff I might do that my mom might hate me forever for. She’ll love me, but she'll just hate me just like a little bit. Just a lil bit. No, but not to ruin that. That's actually something really profound. I think that's important. Something I definitely want my kids to know. Like, just to even that like even that way you can have like you can get upset at them. You can put them in their place, but they're never going to be completely lost from you. Asteris: It's so unconditional. It's a primal in a sense. You know, it's like that, like, all animals have the same sort of, you know, connection to their family members in some degree. Maybe not cats. I guess. The dad’s kill the… Let’s not talk about that.  Malena: What happens with cats?! Asteris: You don’t know that?? Hannah: I don’t know about this, but I know that in other species, there's species where the male will kill the children. Asteris: Yeah, that's how it works with cats. I think, I'm pretty sure. Hannah: I know some of the bigger cats – big cats. Like, I've wondered if tigers, maybe? Malena: Yeah, okay, let's move on. I like cats, we're moving on. Hnannah: Okay, so the only one I can think of is, as long as the Earth rotates around the sun, the sun's gonna rise every morning. I mean, that sounds kind of stupid. But it's true, for a fact. And also, like, if you want to see it on a more like, profound level is that every day is a new day. And it's like, there's always something to do, you know? Malena: Yeah, no, that's really true. I think this is something that's kind of related to that. It's like very scientific, but you know, when you're in middle school, having your emo goth phase as I did, and having your, you know, existential crises about everything.  Asteris: We’ll act like, yeah, yeah I’ve been there. Malena: For me, for me, it's kind of not a phase. It's like a lifestyle. I don't know why I called it a phase. But I think that like something that I realized, like, very clearly is like – this is really stupid. But I feel like when I was like, when you're sitting there, like you're sitting here, you know, that, like, the molecules of the air are parting around your body to make space for you. And so it's like, in a way, you know, you're shoving molecules out of the way when you do anything – just like make space for yourself in the world. And that means that there's always a place being made for you, you know, and everything. Like the universe is like, bending around you, no matter how small you are. And I think that that's something that's like important to remember when you're having existential crises and stuff and being like, “I'm so small.” But like, the molecules are still bending around you like, you have matter... you matter. Hannah: I’ve never thought about it that way, it's super cool. Malena: No, I...like it also zens me out to think like, you know. I've tried meditating. And I'm honestly really bad at it. Like, I can't go 30 seconds without thinking about, like, my midterm. But the fact that I can, like, just feel like the kind of air pressing back on me and everything. It's kind of like a good way to center yourself when you're meditating and stuff like that. Asteris: Do you think, like, Butterfly Effect, and that kind of stuff. So if you move your particles to move, will that affect me? Like, are they coming to me and push me backwards or something like that? What about that? Malena: I mean, I don't, I don't know. I think Butterfly Effect is like something that's like a really scary thought. Like, if I do something differently then like, everything will be different, you know? But I just think it's also important not to be paralyzed by that kind of thing. Like you, we could sit in paralysis being like, “I can't do anything, because then it’ll affect something.” But like, what are you gonna do? Sit in bed for the rest of your life? Like, I mean, you can, if that's what you want to do. I mean, you do you, sister. But like, I can't, I can't do that. So... Hannah: Yeah, something I also think about sometimes is that nowadays, most people at least, yeah, the ones that are like, lucky enough, they have a lot of options on what they can like do in life. Like usually back in the days, if your father was like a welder, you'd become a welder. And that was like your path. Now, for some people, we have so many options that we get choice paralysis. And there was actually this study that came out that showed us, like, if you have less choices, you actually end up happier, because you look less at the opportunity cost. There's less of like, what if? And so it's totally a thing where it's like, “What am I going to do? I have so many options.” And then you end up being like, maybe more unhappy? Because you can always go back and think, oh, what if I did this? What if I did this? Asteris: Yeah. Also the fact that maybe if there's so many options, they're all so attractive too, you try them too much. And that gets overwhelming, too. Malena: Yeah. I hate to cut this discussion short, but I want to get to like the last question before our podcast ends, And just kind of just building on what we were talking about, like, what do you think is the thing about your personality or your life experience that defines you as a person the most? I’ll go first on this one, because it is tougher, but it's something that I think about a lot. Hence, I'm the question asker. But for me, it's definitely that I'm a diplomat’s daughter. Like I was raised as a daughter of a US diplomat. So I grew up in, like, a different country every three years. And like, it's exposed me to a lot of different cultures like Global Citizen stereotype, third culture kid...Sorry, I hear a lot of it in the international community. But I think like, what it made me was flexible. To a certain degree. Everyone knows I like to plan everything, but like, it made me flexible to the whims of other people, I think, and it made me more resilient in the face of like failing than I think a lot of other people might have. So I feel like that's what defines me, but what do you think would define you guys more? Asteris: First, I'm wondering, I want to ask you a question about what you said. Do – would you want that lifestyle for your kids in the future? Would you want the same lifestyle as you had? Because when I was moving around, I always thought, you know – I still don't know what’s the answer for me – you know if that's the sort of lifestyle I want for my kids. But what do you think? Malena: I would say, I want a mini version of it. I think I moved too many times. I think I got really lucky that I moved to countries where I could easily develop a social life. I know in other countries the situations that I would have been in would just, that would not have been the case because like the expat community I would have been in would have been really small and isolated. So I got lucky that the expat community blended in with like, the local communities, and I had a very vibrant childhood. But I'd want my kids to not live in a bubble where they didn't move their whole life, they didn't see the outside world, they didn't interact with other cultures... like I want to throw them into living somewhere else. But I say like moving twice might be an acceptable amount rather than nine times, which is how many times I've moved between places. I think that's too much. I wouldn't want my kids to go through the same sadnesses I had, I think. Not to make myself sound like, you know, the most sad person ever. But you know what I mean? So yeah, but okay, what defines you? Asteris: I would say that, I only thought about this, and it's being reinforced now that I moved to the U.S. Only when I first moved to another country, I kind of figured this out. But you know, for me, being Greek and all that, I think definitely defines me. Like my parents – and I guess the whole Greek education system – does a good job of, you know, driving...  Malena: And so, for our listeners, Asteris is Greek. Asteris: Yeah. Malena: I mean, Hannah and I, we're aware of this, but not everyone else. So yeah– Asteris: Yeah, I bring it up a lot. More than I should at least. They do a good job of drilling in the point of, you know, like, all the greatness of you know, culture and history and all those things and that really matters to becoming who you are. Being proud of who you are. And I think that's something that I'd say a lot of Americans can’t really relate to as much, for one reason or another. But it's, it means a lot to you know, protect your identity and your culture. And also, you know, make sure that your kids have a similar upbringing. Like, I want to make sure that my kids speak Greek. And that's why I'm so excited that I see so many of our friends, you know, that are Greek American – they also speak Greek. And, you know, that gives me hope for my kids, because I couldn't, you know, I couldn't not pass that on, you know, because I'm so proud of it. And it's part of who I am. So it has to be part of who my kids are. So I think that, like my ethnic identity, or my country, I think is definitely what defines me to a large extent, especially now that I'm moving around. And I'm out of that element, you know? Hannah: I have a question. When you're with Greek people, or you feel like you're connecting with like, Greek heritage, do you feel like you have a different personality? When you speak Greek when you're with Greek people versus other people? Asteris: I don't really know because it has to be an unconscious thing. You know, you have to be someone watching me from the outside to figure it out, kind of thing. But I think I do for sure – I definitely act differently. I think it's also like, you know, like language and culture and all those things, you know...maybe... Like Greeks are more open maybe? And that may not be seen in what we talk about. Maybe body language, that sort of thing, you know, all those things change. So, maybe...my body language is definitely different. When I'm, I use a lot of hand gestures, for example, you know, like when other people are doing and maybe it is. I don't know. I'm moving my hands right now. Malena: Yeah. No, I think, every person...I want to preface this. Every person's an individual. So like, you know, we all have our own personalities, but I definitely see what you're saying about like, some cultures are just more like, in your face, like hospitality, open, inviting, exciting, compared to others that are more inherently reserved. Asteris: And I wouldn't say it's overbearing in the sense that you can't grow as a person into it, you know? It's more so just something that you take along as, like, an extra thing to just carry around. You become who you are, but you have that also to fall back on. Malena: Okay, Hannah, you’re last. To round out our podcast, what defines you? Hannah: So I've been thinking about it. And I have a bit of an anti-answer, which is, I don't think anything really defines me. Like, if I look back at myself, one year ago, I don't see much similarity at all. I feel like I'm constantly changing. And I'm very aware of the fact that I'm changing. And like...so I feel like there's nothing permanent about me, my personality, the way I act, the way I speak, you know, it's very much changing. Malena: Malleable.  Hannah: Exactly. Malena: I think, that's I think that's actually the most exciting answer to just be like, “I'm young, I'm not defined yet.” Like, young, wild and free vibes in, like, the best, least cheesy way possible. And like, I'm not gonna let anything that's happened to me so far define me and I'm still like, on my way to figuring out who I am and I think that's exciting. I think that's also not to, you know, end this in a faux cheesy way, but I think that's like a good note to leave with our listeners. Like you got this, you don't have to know who you are yet. That's me yelling into the listener, Spotify, Apple Music abyss to whoever's on the other side there. But yeah, thank you guys for being here. Asteris, thank you for the insightful thoughts.  Asteris: Thank you for having me. Malena: I've appreciated it. It was very good, you know, question asking in response. And thanks, of course, Hannah for co-hosting with me. My girl. Hannah: No problem!  Malena: All right! Good night fellow listeners. Another great podcast. Thanks so much this has been Don't Tell Me Your Major, sponsored by NBN audio. Thanks so much. Have a good one. Bye, guys! [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath]

EPISODE NOTES Form: https://forms.gle/XY41oQSrGpBBxEXD8 [https://forms.gle/XY41oQSrGpBBxEXD8][“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath] Malena: Hey guys! My name is Malena Ramnath. Hannah: I'm Hannah Fredly. M: And we are your hosts and sophomores here at Northwestern. This is Don't Tell Me Your Major, an interview podcast where we avoid getting to know people on the surface level with questions like what their major is, where they're from, and how old they are, but try to get to know them on a more profound level. That's how you really get to know the kind of person someone is rather than judging them based on pre-established stereotypes. So today, it's just the two of us because last episode, we had a guest. So today, it's just us, the hosts, me and Hannah. And today, we really wanted to talk about the idea of imagination, because it's COVID still. We're still stuck inside. It's a panda-nemic. And I think our imagination can oftentimes be our only escape from this kind of stuff. Right? So, my first question for us to answer here on our podcast today is did you ever have any imaginary friends when you were little Hannah? H: So this is gonna be a really boring answer, but I did not actually. I knew a lot of people who did and I have some funny stories, but I myself never had one.  M: Okay, at least give me a funny story about it. H: So I had a friend back home, who used to have an imaginary friend. And so when she was little, she was walking down the street and she used to talk to her imaginary friend. And so she would tell me that people low key thought she was crazy sometimes because she would like, talk into thin air. M: Oh my gosh, like I couldn't do that. I couldn't just talk into thin air. That being said, though, I definitely imagine that my  stuffed animals and teddy bears have personalities. I still kind of do. I think it's a remnant from Toy Story being a thing. I  definitely, you know, had my teddy bears and they have personalities. You know, my boyfriend isn't necessarily so happy about the fact that I'm still a five-year-old inside, but that was – they were like my imaginary friends. You know? Also because my parents never really bought me – maybe it's like a gender stereotype thing, but also, I didn't mind it – they just never, I never even really had  Barbies, or like, Legos or anything. I just had a million teddy bears. So yeah, I guess it was safer, child-safety-wise, to just surround me with soft, plush things.  H: Yeah, actually, you want to know something funny? So back home, in Norway, I used to have like a, like a fat big drawer only full of teddy bears. And there were some teddy bears that was like, they were too big to fit in the drawer and be like huge giraffes, like the size of my body, my little child body, like big bears, like the size. And if I put them all on my bed, I wouldn’t have space for myself in the bed.  M: Yeah, I know exactly. We would my sister and I would like, oh my gosh, this is so silly. She's gonna hate me for saying this on the podcast. But we would do this thing called a dolly hash, where we would take all of our stuffed animals combined - easily at one point, like 100 of them - we would (consumerism at its finest), we would cover our living room in them. And there's photos of me and my sister just passed out and you can't see the carpet. It’s the two of us, like asleep on our teddy bears and our parents like “What have we created?” H: I'm not gonna lie. If I were a parent and I came home to that I'd be thoroughly terrified. M: But imagination comes in a lot of different ways. I think we all have like daydreams about, you know, from our imaginary friends to like our dream jobs and things like that. And I think that plays into this question that I've had for a long time of like, idealism versus realism, because I feel like, you know, for me, I'm more of a cynic. I would say I'm more of a realist, I've always seen idealists as kind of living in their imagination, like, “Oh, you know, I'm gonna be like, some big, you know, music artist or something.” You know? And that's often sometimes like really hard to achieve fame in. And for me, that's part of living in their daydreams – living in their imagination. There's not something as real about it as like, having a structured salary, like the classic, you know, go to college, earn, like, six figures, you know, just go on to whatever you need to do next. So like, do you think that there's, like, idealism isn't what people should look for in life, especially in this day and age? Or do you think it's more, it's better to be an idealist than a realist? H: Okay, so I think there's value in ideal - I think, first of all balance of two. But I think there's value in idealism in the sense that you're much more likely to achieve something if you believe yourself that you will achieve it. So I sort of believe in the law of attraction and of how, if you really believe that you're going to do well on this test, then odds are you're going to do well. If you go out with the mindset of like, “Oh, I'm never going to achieve this anyways”, then the odds that you ever achieve it are so much lower. So idealism has value in the sense that like, if you're shooting so far, so high, and you're like, “I know for sure that later in life, I will achieve this, I will get this job, I will, like, be able to work with this and this and this”, then, even though it might not be fully accomplished, it still makes it more likely that it will happen just by you believing it. M: No, and I think there's definitely something to be said for that. And I think that there should never...it should never really be because I had to kind of check myself. I have friends who were real idealists. I'm such a cynic, such a realist. I–I'm very much of the mind that you have to make money and then follow your passions. You know, like make money, build yourself that nest egg, build your family that nest egg, and then go...paint. That's what, that's what I kind of grew up learning as well. And some people definitely have that mindset. But I think there's something that's braver about going to follow your passion so that you're not going into work every day doing something you hate, doing something that's not making a change in the world. I think like you said, it's everything in moderation. It's about finding that balance between what you're passionate about, and like, what's gonna make you money because, like, I read this statistic the other day that said - it was on UberFacts. So you know, obviously take this as what you will. But if you – happiness, sorry, money can buy happiness, if it's up to $70,000. Right? Yeah, once you hit that $70,000 a year mark, you're going to be – pretty much plateau of happiness, thanks to your money. And it's – your happiness is going to come through other things like love and family and when you're not thinking about your survival anymore.  H: Yeah cause this is what, like Maslow's Pyramid of Needs.  M: Yeah.  H: It's like, if you can get a nice shelter, enough to buy you the food you want to buy, and everything like that, then that's covered by money. Self actualization, like your social life, that can't be bought by money. M: No, yeah, exactly. And so I think in that way, your imagination, like thinking about, “Oh, what can my passion be?”, like having – I think when you're little, having the freedom to explore that is also really interesting. Rather than just like, since you're five, being told you're going to be a doctor, when you grow up, you know? H: You know what else I think is really important that our generation kind of loses sight of sometimes, is that there's such a big dialogue about nowadays, “Oh, you should be doing your passion, you should be doing, like, living your fullest self at every moment.” And like, for a lot of people, they don't know what their passion is. I think too many people worry about if they're doing the right thing. Worry less about if you're doing the right thing, because at a certain point you stop – you stop living. If there's, you're like, “Oh, am I doing the right thing by doing a math major? Like maybe I'd be happier in statistics? Maybe…” You start asking yourself too many questions, then you get paralyzed by the choice. It's like, stop worrying all the time, if you're doing exactly the right thing, because things will turn out fine. M: Yeah, I really like that mentality. I think it is really applicable to the college student mindset, you know, in just that, like, it's so many kids are just like, “Oh, I'll figure it out eventually,” because they're like, paralyzed exactly by like, the amount of options that are open to them. Um, but okay, we've had, the deep conversation about, you know, what we kind of want to be when we grow up in terms of mindset, right? When you were a kid, what was your favorite imagination game. Because I also talked about, you know, games that build creativity in kids because I think that's something that is education is becoming going to focus more on -  what was your like, when you were little like, what was your favorite imagination game? Like, did you play house? Did you play dress up? Like, what would you do that was an imagination game? H: Oh, so me, my sister or me and my cousin's. It's always with the cousins, by the way, for some reason. We would like create these like fake little shops on our roofs, we'd make like stands. And then we invite our whole family to like, come by our stands and pretend they were buying like stuff from us. So we'd like pretend we were a bakery. Pretend we were like a jewelry store, stuff like that. M: Oh my gosh, we literally – Okay, so I was I would do this daycare program after I finished elementary school because we'd finished the day of like, fifth grade, but my parents couldn't pick me up till 5pm when they got off work. So, I'd stay after school and we’d play like games. And there's like 20 other of my best friends who were like also doing it. Not that I had 20 best friends but you know, Miss Popular in fifth grade. But regardless, we literally did this, it was called Mini City. And like all the other kids were like actually doing things with their imagination. They were like drawing, they're like making necklaces. They were like, you know, giving out fake whatever. Because it was just like, they gave you fake money and you had to go to the different stands. But like, with people's businesses were all imagination based, like there are no real products. And I was like, I found a niche in the market. And I got all my friends together and we made a giant stand that looked like a cupcake out of like the reusable cardboard in the dumpster. Why we were - I literally so much is wrong with this. But then, my, we – I got like all the parents to like bake stuff for their kids to bring in and we were the only people selling like genuine products that anybody wanted to the point where we had so much money that our like toy cash register was overflowing and this is all fake money provided by the daycare people. But then, at the end, this is a distinct memory and maybe why I'm an econ major today is we laid the money. We're so much money, we laid it all over the floor, threw it up in the air and then rolled around in it. The big money. And I think that’s why I’m an econ major. H: Business mindset, you were a hardo from day one.  M: Oh, no, dude, I feel so exposed right now. But okay, okay, last question. I think that it comes off of that really well is so when you're kid you kind of have like the stars in your eyes and maybe it does relate a little to the idealism realism thing, but do you feel like, I feel like so many things nowadays, they're like, “Oh, we want creativity in the workplace. We want imagination in the workplace to come up with innovative solutions.” But do you think like, you know, when you're in a job in the future, you're really going to be using your imagination? H: You know, it's an interesting question, I think it's kind of linked to AI in a certain way, or like, automization. So, computers are really good at brute forcing stuff, like going through stuff in a systematic method. And humans are very good at being creative. So they complement each other very well. So all the jobs that are non-creative can be taken over more or less, and humans are creative. And so that's how we compliment it. So I think more and more we’ll be creative in the workplace in the future. M: I think so, too. And I think like, you know, I go to whatever, I'm in a peer tutoring program. And so I go to a lot of these professional development, education seminars and stuff. And the more I read about the education process, the more I realized that kids are falling short because they're not taught to be creative. They're just taught to get the best GPA. Coming out of, I graduated from high school in Singapore. And so when I was growing up in my education system, it was all about memorization, memorization, memorization, and now I come to Northwestern. And it's a struggle for me, because so much of like, the education here is about problem solving, and like creativity, and like coming up with your own themes in ambiguous situations. And so you're right, I think that it's something that's like really very much the future of who's going to excel and who's not going to, you know. H: Yeah, I fully agree. I think it's more important to teach kids problem solving rather than memorization. M: Yeah, exactly. Well, unfortunately, that was a bit abrupt of an ending, but that is all the time we have left for today. Hannah, thank you for being here. And you know, we are hosts telling you guys a little bit more about what we think of imagination in our daily lives. And I hope that, you know, you guys had some time to think about it, and feel free to drop your thoughts about it into the Google form at the top of our Spotify description, because we'd love to hear from our listeners. And hope that you have a spectacular week. This has been Don't Tell Me Your Major, an NBN audio podcast. Have a good one. [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath]

EPISODE NOTES Form: https://forms.gle/XY41oQSrGpBBxEXD8 [https://forms.gle/XY41oQSrGpBBxEXD8] [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath] Malena: Hey, guys, my name is Malena Ramnath. Hannah: I'm Hannah Fredly. Malena: And we're your hosts and fresh and fresh - sorry, no longer freshmen - but sophomore here at Northwestern. This is Don't Tell Me Your Major, an interview podcast where we avoid getting to know people on the surface level with questions like what their major is, where they're from, and how old they are. But try to get to know them on a more profound level. That's how you really know the kind of person someone is rather than judging them based on pre-established stereotypes. We're also joined today by our lovely guest Aida Baimenova - tell me if I got your name wrong - who is currently a junior here at Northwestern. Although we won't tell you what her major is. Say Hi. Aida: Hi, guys, I’m Aida, it's a pleasure to be on your podcast. Thank you so much for hosting me today Malena and Hannah. Malena: No, of course. But today, we just wanted to have a little themed discussion. And I want to have a little fun with the word play of being homesick versus sick of home, especially as quarantine drags on, and people are either too stuck at home or stuck far away from it because they can't get back. So I figured we'd chat about that. Also, please forgive any audio weirdness because we all are on zoom calling each other despite being in Evanston, which is kind of random, because we're being the big safe from Corona at this moment in time. But hopefully we’ll see each other soon. So my first question for you Aida. And then, you know, Hannah, and I can answer afterwards would be, um, where do you consider home and right now are you home sick or sick of home. Aida: Um, so I'm, I was born and raised in Kazakhstan. And although I went to high school in Singapore, I very much considered Kazakhstan home. I did spend quite a bit of time in Kazakhstan due to COVID. I spent a lot of time in summer in Kazakhstan, which normally doesn't happen, which, I guess it was a bittersweet situation, it kind of sucked to be stuck in Kazakhstan, but at the same time, I got to spend a lot of quality time with my family, and especially my friends from home who all of us went to international schools growing up outside of Kazakhstan. And so it was really, really nice to reconnect with them, and I guess be stuck together although it did result in us all getting COVID. But I currently am healthy. I am in Evanston. And I'm not feeling too homesick because I'm very much in the mindset of, I need to grind. This is the environment where I'm going to be the most productive and I'm just happy to be safe and doing things that I enjoy, which right now are my classes and hanging out with some of my friends from university. Malena: Okay, Hannah, tell us about home. Do you miss it? What's going on there?   Hannah: So home for me is France. I spent a lot of time this summer with my parents and my sister. I really, really enjoyed it. It was a lot of fun. But you know, there comes a point after like, you know, two, three, four, five months, where you're like, well, OK, I might need my own space right now. But you have your parents on you 24/7, you're like, oh, okay, I need out. So I was really happy to come to Evanston and get some sort of social interaction outside of my family. Malena: No, I, okay. So I'm exactly the same way where it's like, I had such a good time being home this summer. But I think it was tough because like Aida, I also graduated from Singapore. Wow. So similar. I graduated from Singapore, and then my parents moved to D.C. So I was home all summer with no friends, and they could kind of tell that I was losing it as much as I enjoyed spending time with them. So I think it's kind of a balance, but now that I'm back, I literally call my parents every day, I think I developed an attachment to them again over the summer. Literally, my mom was like, “Malena, you don't have to call us every day if you're working.” I was like, “I'm gonna call you every day. OK.” So that was cute. But yeah, okay. My next question is, let me look at my list.  Who in your life - OK, this kind of sappy but, who in your life feels most like home? And I mean, you can't say your parents because, obviously, you know, it's probably going to be your parents. Because those they’re you know, who you grew up with, but um, who do you feel feels most like home and not your, you know, your family or whatever. Aida, I'll let you go first.   Aida: So I can't say my twin because I actually have a twin sister. And she's the definition of home to me. Can I, can I not? Malena: I guess you can, I guess you can. Yeah. Dude, I didn't know you had a twin. What is this? Aida: No. I know, I'm a twin. And you know, it's actually kind of crazy. Whenever someone is a twin, I can kind of sense that. Like, you might know Blake. The other day I found out he was a twin. And I was like that makes so much sense. Twins just have such a twin energy to them. But no yeah, being a twingrowing up, the longest I've been separated from my twin for was probably like a week. Even when we were in Singapore. You know, I still remember. Oh my god, that was such a random thing. I think we went to Greece and then my twin had meningitis so she couldn't come to Greece with us. So we were separated for a week. And she's been forever salty about that. But coming, coming to college, I guess. And not being able to be with her, I had major withdrawals. And it wasn't even homesickness. It was just like, part of me was missing, literally, a whole half of me was missing. And she's coming to visit very soon, which I'm really excited about. But something you don't realize when you spend your whole life 24/7 with another person is that you're having no idea how to call them. It feels so incredibly awkward and unnatural to dial them up on FaceTime or even just text them. So we could go like, I probably talked to all my friends from home and from Singapore more than her just because we just don't know how to call each other. So she would be my home for sure. And I know that I kind of cheated the question but I kind of had to go with her for this one. Malena: No, that makes a lot of sense. Like I hear all these crazy things about you know, how twins can really feel each other in a different way. Some of it, I'm sure it's superstition, but, I think that's so cool. But Hannah. Aida: If you punch her I’ll feel it. Malena: Then I’m definitely going to punch her. No, I’m just kidding. Aida: No, it was a fun thing to do middle school people would be like, oh you guys really feel each other? I'd be like, well, you can punch her and we can find out and she wouldn't be too happy about it. But that was a thing.   Malena: Okay, Hannah, obviously, your sister but who else feels like home?   Hannah: I think I'm gonna go with, the obvious choice is obviously my closest friends from home. So I have three girlfriends, specifically, girls, I also have a lot of good, guy friends. But I want to mention the girlfriends specifically. Because it's, you know, who you share your secrets with and who you chat with at night. And if you have problems or anything, those are the people you call up, you FaceTime and everything.  I also wanted to mention something funny, that Aida mentioned is that when you have a sister, and you're just used to being in the same household and sort of seeing each other every day, you're not used to calling them. And so it's, it really is, so weird to call someone and force out a conversation. Because usually you just like hanging out around each other, you know, that's day to day life. Malena: No, I totally. So, yes, I have a sister too. And it's also funny, because, I know, Hannah, your sister and my sister, like the same age and have weirdly similar personalities. And, when I'm home with my sister, I'll just go into her room and annoy her, you know, but, I'll never actually have a conversation. You know, we started having more conversations now that I've been gone for college, but before, that was mostly just go into a room and punch her and then leave kind of thing you know, but that kind of thing. Hannah: Same for me. Malena: Yeah, so I definitely miss her a lot. And she feels like home. But also I moved a lot when I was younger. And I had this one friend from Mexico City named Nando. And he, I would never have expected us to stay friends this long. But he came and visited me in Singapore, and to this day, I still call him you know, all the time and we're taking a class, an online class together and everything. And so it's good to have those people you go back to you from I think, when you were little like when I was in seventh grade. But okay, we're hitting time. So I'll say the last question kind of rapid fire, but also kind of light before we wrap up, and I just say thank you. Um, what, so everybody's always like, oh, what's your comfort food? You know, but we've asked that on this podcast before. So my question is, which is what I've been thinking of kind of recently is, what's your comfort drink and it doesn't have to be alcoholic, you know, we're pure beans, but, um, my roommate will just come and sit down with a giant ass glass of milk. And I'm just like, are you five years old? Like, what is this dude, I love him. But it's like, what are you doing? That's a liter of milk you're drinking right now. That's not good for your intestines. And so for me, I think the drink that reminds me most of home is probably, Ribena. I don't know if anybody's had that. But it's blackcurrant juice. And I had that I used to drink that all the time when I was little. Um, so yeah, Ribena for me is the drink that tastes most like home. But yeah, okay. Aida: I expected you to say Milo to be completely honest. Malena: Yeah. Milo is, for our listeners, Milo is this chocolate powder. That's mostly in Singapore. It's kind of Nesquik so yeah. Aida: Yeah, I think it comes from Australia. So it's really big in Australia as well. But Singaporeans are so obsessed with it that every high school fair we had, our school used to hire a Milo truck. And they would, they would just pour Milo left and right and that was the best thing ever. Malena: Oh my gosh. Yeah.   Aida: But no, yeah, I guess quickly. If I were to go with my comfort drink, it's not something I go for often because I kind of realized that lactose was really bad for you and I shouldn't really be having too much milk. But growing up whenever I was sick or whenever I don't know something was wrong. My mom would always make me hot milk with honey. Um, and actually yesterday I don't know yesterday I was feeling a little down and I also made myself some hot milk with honey and I mixed up a bunch of tumeric in it because that's what mom would do if I was proper sick so just honey, turmeric, maybe some pepper in there and yeah, I'm right back home. Malena: That's so cute. That's what my dad does too. He's Indian. So he would, I remember him bringing that up occasionally. But okay Hannah really quick. What's your what's your home drink? Hannah: Capri Sun or Capri Sun. Or however you pronounce it. Malena: Dude! That’s so facts. Although I have no idea how to pronounce it, it's a constant debate in my household. Aida: Capri Sun, I think we say Capri Sun. Malena: I don't know. Malena: But okay, that being said, we're hitting our limit. But thank you so much guys for coming on. And Hannah for hosting with me. This has been another great podcast of Don't Tell Me Your Major brought to you by NBN Audio. See you guys in a couple of weeks. Hannah: Bye: Aida: Thank you Malena, see you, bye! Malena: Bye. [“Don’t Tell Me Your Major Theme” By Malena Ramnath]