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AI in Europe: jobs, sovereignty and value capture

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Cristina Caffarra in conversation with Luis Garicano on a few salient strands of theย ๐—”๐—œย ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ปย ๐—ถ๐—ปย ๐—˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ฒย today.ย ๐—๐—ผ๐—ฏ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ปย โ€“ will โ€œmost white collar jobsโ€ really be โ€œlost in 1-5 yearsโ€ with Agentic AI?ย ๐—›๐—ผ๐˜„ย ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ปย ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—น๐—นย ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟย โ€œ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—นย ๐—”๐—œโ€ย ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜†ย ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ? If we build on hyperscalersโ€™ platforms, models and compute, how will Europe protect value creation?ย And is this not runningย ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€๐˜ย ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟย ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป๐˜๐˜†ย ๐—ฑ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ,ย ๐—ฝ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ดย ๐˜‚๐˜€ย ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟย ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ผย ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐˜†ย for key swathes of our future industrial base? AI adoption must accelerate at all costs in Europe, but itโ€™s going to be quite a ride. And a reckoning for our sovereignty aspirations.

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AI in Europe: jobs, sovereignty and value capture

Cristina Caffarra in conversation with Luis Garicano on a few salient strands of theย ๐—”๐—œย ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ปย ๐—ถ๐—ปย ๐—˜๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐—ฝ๐—ฒย today.ย ๐—๐—ผ๐—ฏ ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐˜‚๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ปย โ€“ will โ€œmost white collar jobsโ€ really be โ€œlost in 1-5 yearsโ€ with Agentic AI?ย ๐—›๐—ผ๐˜„ย ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ปย ๐˜„๐—ถ๐—น๐—นย ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟย โ€œ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป ๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐˜‚๐˜€๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—นย ๐—”๐—œโ€ย ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ฎ๐—น๐—น๐˜†ย ๐—ฏ๐—ฒ? If we build on hyperscalersโ€™ platforms, models and compute, how will Europe protect value creation?ย And is this not runningย ๐—ฎ๐—ด๐—ฎ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜€๐˜ย ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟย ๐˜€๐—ผ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒ๐—ถ๐—ด๐—ป๐˜๐˜†ย ๐—ฑ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐˜ƒ๐—ฒ,ย ๐—ฝ๐˜‚๐˜€๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ดย ๐˜‚๐˜€ย ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟย ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ผย ๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฑ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐˜†ย for key swathes of our future industrial base? AI adoption must accelerate at all costs in Europe, but itโ€™s going to be quite a ride. And a reckoning for our sovereignty aspirations.

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episode Enshittification of our digital experience: the pathology is clear, but is there a cure? artwork

Enshittification of our digital experience: the pathology is clear, but is there a cure?

๐—–๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜†ย ๐——๐—ผ๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐—ผ๐˜„ย (the โ€œRenaissance manโ€ author and activist) has aย ๐—ป๐—ฒ๐˜„ย ๐—ฏ๐—ผ๐—ผ๐—ธ onย "๐—˜๐—ป๐˜€๐—ต๐—ถ๐˜๐˜๐—ถ๐—ณ๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ป"ย ๐—ผ๐—ณย ๐—ผ๐˜‚๐—ฟย ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ฒย ๐—ฒ๐˜…๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ. We discuss theย ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฐ๐—ต๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ถ๐˜€๐—บ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ป๐—ฑย ๐—ฝ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ต๐—ผ๐—น๐—ผ๐—ด๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€, but above all:ย ๐—ถ๐˜€ย ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—ฒย ๐—ฎย ๐—ฐ๐˜‚๐—ฟ๐—ฒ?ย  Cory traces the collapse of our online experience (from the "good old internet" to the current "enshitternet") toย ๐—น๐—ผ๐˜€๐˜€ย ๐—ผ๐—ณย ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—บ๐—ฝ๐—ฒ๐˜๐—ถ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ปย &ย ๐—ฐ๐—ผ๐—ป๐—ฐ๐—ฒ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฟ๐—ฎ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ปย ๐˜„๐—ต๐—ถ๐—ฐ๐—ตย ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฎ๐—ฏ๐—น๐—ฒ๐—ฑย ๐˜๐—ต๐—ฒย ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐˜€๐—ฐ๐—ถ๐—ฝ๐—น๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ถ๐—ป๐—ดย ๐—ณ๐˜‚๐—ป๐—ฐ๐˜๐—ถ๐—ผ๐—ปย ๐—ผ๐—ณย ๐—ถ๐—ป๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฟ๐—บ๐—ฒ๐—ฑ๐—ถ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐—ถ๐—ฒ๐˜€ย which in turn allowed entrenchment of surveillance models based on wanton exploitation of our data. What forces could restore discipline on tech firms? Cory is a believer in competition and regulation (together with adversarial interoperability and tech worker power). He is still optimistic about antitrust enforcement and regulation surging across the globe, and praises Europe's "muscular" enforcement...I am not there:ย  in the wake of the "nothing burger" Google Search remedies in the US, of the FTC's loss of the Meta case, in the week where US trade officials fly to Brussels to put the dilemma starkly: "๐——๐— ๐—”ย ๐—ผ๐—ฟย ๐—ฐ๐—ฎ๐—ฟ๐˜€?"ย "๐——๐— ๐—”ย ๐—ผ๐—ฟ๐˜€๐˜๐—ฒ๐—ฒ๐—น?",ย  antitrust and regulation are not the name of the game at this point. ย Cory remains optimistic - I think it's build or bust. Always super fun with him!

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