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From Safety Patrol to Chief Outsider: Excellence, Identity, and Letting Go with Janell Pittman

59 min · 5 de may de 2026
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For a lot of high achievers, the hardest part isn’t success. It’s figuring out who you are without it. In this episode of Fearful Giants, Clay Stelzer sits down with Janell Pittman, a marketing and transformation leader who spent decades driving growth at some of the most recognized organizations in the country. After serving as Chief Marketing and Digital Strategy Officer at MercyOne - a 230-location, 18,000-colleague health system, and VP and General Manager at Meredith Corporation, supporting brands like AllRecipes, Martha Stewart, and Better Homes & Gardens, Janell made a deliberate pivot to fractional executive work with Chief Outsiders, where she now partners with mid-size company CEOs to build data-backed growth strategies. In this episode we explore: * Why excellence that starts as fun can become a fear-based trap, and how to tell the difference * What it really takes to lead culture change across 18,000 people without imposing it from the top * The terrifying decision to take a career break and intentionally not be busy * How Janell shed a decades-old identity tied to titles, achievement, and busyness,  and what she found on the other side * Why "the process is more important than the outcome" changed how she thinks about every major initiative If this conversation resonates, share it with a leader who's running hard and hasn't stopped to ask what they're actually running toward. And follow or subscribe wherever you listen for more honest conversations about the human side of leadership. Connect with Janell Pittman:  * LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/janellpittman/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/janellpittman/] * Website: https://www.chiefoutsiders.com [https://www.chiefoutsiders.com] Connect with Clay:  * Website: https://15sixty.com/ [https://15sixty.com/]  * LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/claystelzer [http://linkedin.com/in/claystelzer]   Resources Mentioned:  * Excellence Through Leadership Conference (University of Missouri)  * Chief Outsiders (chiefoutsiders.com) 🎵 Music License: CMUVN6N0WHFMBOOL

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