How Shapes is Building for the HR Role of the Future with Shani Brisilovsky, AI Product Lead at Shapes

How Shapes is Building for the HR Role of the Future with Shani Brisilovsky, AI Product Lead at Shapes

Description: Welcome back to the FNDN Series, where we continue our deep dive into startup compensation with industry leaders from across the startup world. In our conversation with Shani Brisilovsky, AI Product Lead at Shapes and behavioral economics researcher, we explore how AI is fundamentally reshaping the HR function — from automating admin-heavy processes to positioning people teams as the drivers of organization-wide AI transformation. We dig into the shortcomings of legacy HRIS platforms, the rise of agentic AI in people operations, and why the future of HR is less about rigid calendars and more about real-time, human-centered decision-making. Stick around to hear Shani's advice on how people leaders can get ahead of the curve before it's too late. Chapters: 00:00 Welcome to the FNDN Series 00:44 Guest Introduction: Shani Brisilovsky 01:37 Keeping Up with AI's Rapid Pace of Change 03:34 How a Behavioral Economics Master's Informs AI Thinking 05:21 The Evolving Role of HR in the Age of AI 06:39 HR as the Driver of AI Transformation: The Atlassian Example 08:22 Challenges of Leading Transformative Organizational Change 09:30 Moving from Rigid HR Cadences to Real-Time Processes 13:35 Preserving the Human Element Amid Automation 14:17 Lessons from Healthcare: Freeing Up Time for What Matters 18:09 The Emergency Room Story: Human Connection Throughout the Process 20:10 Where Current HRIS Systems Are Falling Short 24:50 Agentic AI and How Shapes Is Building for the Future 30:32 Addressing AI Concerns: Privacy, Security, and Hallucinations 32:33 Vibe Feature Demo: Generating Salary Bands with a Single Prompt 33:44 Advice for People Leaders: Start Now, Don't Wait 35:14 Closing Remarks Connect with Shani Visit:  [https://shapes.com]https://shapes.co/ [https://shapes.co/] https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanibrusi/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/shanibrusi/] Resources Mentioned Join Startup People Summit, a one-day virtual conference designed for startup People leaders who want practical insight, honest conversations and proven approaches to scaling their People function — get your ticket here: www.startuppeoplesummit.com [https://www.startuppeoplesummit.com]  Companies & Organisations Mentioned: Shapes — AI-native HRIS platform where Shani serves as AI Product Lead MIT AHA (Advanced Humans with AI) Research Center — Research hub studying how people interact with AI tools; conferences available online Atlassian — Notable example of a company placing AI transformation under its HR/People team Zapier — Another example where the Chief People Officer took ownership of AI transformation Anthropic — Recommended by Shani as a direct, high-quality source for learning how AI is being built and used A16z — Published the article Workday's Last Workday, referenced in the discussion on legacy HRIS limitations   More FNDN Episodes: Spotify:  [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM]https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM] Apple Podcast:  [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484]https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484] AIinHR, FutureOfWork, HRTechnology, PeopleOperations, BehavioralEconomics, AgenticAI, HRISPlatforms, StartupCompensation, HRLeadership, AITransformation, PeopleTeams, WorkplaceInnovation, HRAutomation, StartupCulture, CompensationStrategy, RealTimeHR, HumanCenteredAI, EmployeeExperience, TalentManagement, StartupBestPractices

One List Every Head of People Needs Before Their CEO Says to Use AI with Ben Langer, Global HR Executive

Description: Welcome back to the FNDN Series, where we continue our deep dive into startup compensation with industry leaders from across the startup world. In our conversation with Ben Langner, Global HR Executive, we explore the evolving role of AI in HR — where it genuinely accelerates decision-making, where it falls short, and which human moments should never be handed over to automation. Ben shares his practical framework for building a "no-fly list" of irreplaceable human interactions, and how people teams can lead AI adoption inside their organizations with confidence and clarity. Chapters: 00:00 Introduction to the FNDN Series 00:44 Welcome Ben Langner: AI and HR Today 02:19 Speed to Insight: AI's Most Practical HR Use Cases 04:46 The Risk of Using AI as a Crutch 08:43 Better Prompting: How to Get More Out of AI 10:08 Interactive Prompting vs. Single-Point Prompts 12:24 AI in Practice: Internal vs. Personal Use Cases 13:45 Why Claude Is Changing Lives in the HR Space 15:58 Balancing AI's Pace of Change with Security 16:04 The List: Defining Where Humans Must Stay in the Loop 19:08 How to Start the AI Conversation Inside Your Business 22:52 Performance Management: A Clear Case for Human Judgment 24:45 Personal Moments at Work That Should Never Be Automated 26:59 AI as a Gift for HR Teams, Not a Threat 29:51 How AI Is Elevating the HR Role 30:19 Connecting People Data to Business Outcomes 36:04 AI Adoption: How HR Teams Can Lead the Charge 40:22 Finding and Nurturing AI Champions Internally 43:18 Raising the Ceiling: Adoption Models That Work 44:34 Hackathons and Think Tanks: Structured AI Innovation 47:10 Closing Thoughts and Wrap-Up Connect with Ben Langner Visit: https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlangner/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/benlangner/] Resources Mentioned Tools Mentioned: Claude (Anthropic) — AI tool Ben highlights as a game-changer for HR professionals in the last 30–60 days Events Mentioned: Join Startup People Summit, a one-day virtual conference designed for startup People leaders who want practical insight, honest conversations and proven approaches to scaling their People function — get your ticket here: www.startuppeoplesummit.com [https://www.startuppeoplesummit.com]  More FNDN Episodes: Spotify:  [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM]https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM] Apple Podcast:  [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484]https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484] AIinHR, HRLeadership, PeopleOperations, AIAdoption, FutureOfWork, HRTech, StartupCompensation, HumanMoments, AIandHR, PeopleData, PromptingTips, HRStrategy, WorkplaceAutomation, PeopleTeams, StartupCulture, HRInnovation, AIChampions, ChangeManagement, TalentRetention, StartupLeadership

The Wellbeing Strategy for Any Stage of Company with Phil Wolf, Founder at Connects Health

Welcome back to the FNDN Series, where we continue our deep dive into startup compensation with industry leaders from across the startup world. In our conversation with Phil Wolf, Founder of Connects Health and workplace wellbeing specialist with over 15 years of experience, we unpack the growing mental load crisis facing today's workforces and why traditional wellbeing programs are falling short. We explore Phil's Wayfinder Framework — a practical, scalable approach to embedding genuine wellbeing strategy into companies of any size — and what it actually takes to build a culture where people can perform without burning out. You don't need a HRIS, you need a PeopleOS. The only platform with native AI is Shapes. Check it out here: https://shapes.co/lp/insights-lp?utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=matt_april [https://shapes.co/lp/insights-lp?utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=matt_april] Chapters: 00:00 Introduction and Welcome 01:08 Meet Phil Wolf: Workplace Wellbeing Specialist 01:59 The State of Wellbeing in Today's Workforce 03:45 The Biggest Challenge: Constant Mental Load 07:04 AI, Efficiency Pressure, and Burnout 08:34 Why Removing Admin Work Can Backfire 09:52 Time Boxing and Energy Pattern Planning 11:17 Job Security Anxiety and the AI Threat 12:40 External Stressors: News, Cost of Living, and Low-Grade Anxiety 15:49 How to Curate Your Information Diet 19:29 LinkedIn Tips for Healthier Consumption 20:54 The Problem with Traditional Wellbeing Programs 22:12 Why EAPs Alone Are Not Enough 23:13 From Initiatives to Strategy: The Industry Shift 25:07 The Safe, Productive, and Prosperous Framework 28:06 Redefining What Wellbeing Really Means 29:20 When Should Companies Start Taking Wellbeing Seriously? 30:59 The Wayfinder Framework Explained 35:26 Making It Work for Small and Growing Businesses 37:21 The Wellbeing Enrichment Program 39:24 Real-World Results: Insurance, Burnout Metrics, and ROI 45:28 Recap and Key Takeaways 46:09 Final Tip: Upskill Your Managers First 47:26 Resources and Where to Find Phil 49:28 Closing Remarks Connect with Phil Wolf Visit:  [https://connectshealth.com.au]connectshealth.com.au [https://connectshealth.com.au]  [https://linkedin.com/in/philwolf]linkedin.com/in/philwolf [https://linkedin.com/in/philwolf] Resources Mentioned Programs & Frameworks: Wayfinder Framework — Phil's core model for embedding wellbeing across any size organization: Purpose, Values, Skills, Systems, and Support Wellbeing Enrichment Program — Phil's all-in-one wellbeing solution that replaces traditional EAP models Newsletter: Connects Health Tuesday Newsletter — Weekly practical breakdowns on wellbeing and performance for HR leaders and business owners News Source Mentioned: The Squiz — Australian daily news program offering an unbiased 10-minute summary of current events Join Startup People Summit, a one-day virtual conference designed for startup People leaders who want practical insight, honest conversations and proven approaches to scaling their People function — get your ticket here: www.startuppeoplesummit.com [https://www.startuppeoplesummit.com] More FNDN Episodes: Spotify:  [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM]https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM] Apple Podcast:  [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484]https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484] WorkplaceWellbeing, BurnoutPrevention, StartupCulture, EmployeeWellbeing, WellbeingStrategy, MentalHealthAtWork, WayfinderFramework, PeopleOperations, HRLeadership, StartupCompensation, HighPerformance, WorkplaceResilience, EAPAlternative, PeopleAndCulture, ManagerDevelopment, StartupLeadership, FNDNSeries, AIAndWork, WorkLifeBalance, EmployeeEngagement

The HR Infrastructure Gap No One Is Talking About with Jesse Schofer, Founder at Stacked

Welcome back to the FNDN Series, where we continue our deep dive into startup compensation with industry leaders from across the startup world. In our conversation with Jesse Schofer, Founder of Stacked and leading voice in HR tech, we explore the critical infrastructure gaps holding HR teams back from becoming truly strategic functions. We unpack why most people ops teams are stuck in a cycle of reactive admin work, how to build a scalable HR tech stack aligned to business outcomes, and what the future of AI-powered HR infrastructure actually looks like. You don't need a HRIS, you need a PeopleOS. The only platform with native AI is Shapes. Check it out here: https://shapes.co/lp/insights-lp?utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=matt_april [https://shapes.co/lp/insights-lp?utm_source=newsletter&utm_term=matt_april] Chapters: 00:00 Introduction 00:44 Guest Introduction: Jesse Schofer 01:05 Why HR Gets Less Budget Than Other Functions 02:43 The "Too Many Tools" Myth Debunked 04:57 Where to Start: Choosing the Right HR Tech 06:07 Strategic Prioritization Over Reactive Decisions 07:57 Contextual Infrastructure: No One-Size-Fits-All 10:59 Defining Success Before Selecting Tech 12:05 Requirements Mapping: Building Backwards from the Outcome 13:50 The Stacked Database: Broadening Your Vendor Search 16:37 All-in-One vs. Point Solutions 19:22 How New Tech Changes Your Day-to-Day Operations 22:09 The Self-Fulfilling Cycle of Poor HR Infrastructure 29:25 How to Get Executive Buy-In for Infrastructure Investment 35:06 Options Papers and Candid Leadership Conversations 41:32 State of the Union: Where HR Tech Is Falling Short 43:00 AI and the Future of People Ops as a Service Function 48:39 Closing Advice: Take Control of Your Own Development 50:36 Where to Find Jesse Connect with Jesse Visit: stakkd.tech [https://stakkd.tech]  https://linkedin.com/in/jessieschofer [https://linkedin.com/in/jessieschofer]  Join Startup People Summit, a one-day virtual conference designed for startup People leaders who want practical insight, honest conversations and proven approaches to scaling their People function — get your ticket here: www.startuppeoplesummit.com [https://www.startuppeoplesummit.com] Resources Mentioned: Tools & Communities: Stacked – HR tech discovery database built by Jesse to help teams find and shortlist vendors Humans in the Loop – Jesse's Slack community focused on AI and HR tech transformation More FNDN Episodes: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM]  Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484]  HRTech, PeopleOps, HRInfrastructure, StartupHR, HRStrategy, AIinHR, HRTechStack, PeopleOperations, HRTransformation, TechStack, PointSolution, AllInOne, HRLeadership, StrategicHR, FutureOfWork, HRData, PeopleAnalytics, HRBuyIn, ChangeManagement, StartupCompensation

This Company’s Compensation Cycle Takes Five Minutes with Rowan Savage

Welcome back to the FNDN Series, where we continue our deep dive into startup compensation with industry leaders from across the startup world. In our conversation with Rowan Savage, Former CTO & Co-Founder at Runn, we explore how unconventional compensation practices can drive zero turnover and 100% employee net promoter scores. Rowan shares how Runn implemented automatic pay rises, pay transparency with exact salaries (no bands), location-agnostic compensation, and the radical practice of paying every role the same at each level—from engineers to marketers. We dive deep into their four-day work week, recruiting philosophy that attracted top 1% talent, and performance management approach that separated pay from performance discussions. Keep watching to discover how these practices resulted in annual pay reviews taking less than five minutes instead of weeks or months.’ Rowan is a serial entrepreneur and tech founder with a strong belief that the way you win is by attracting the best talent, putting the right team together, retaining them over the long term, aligning them on the mission and then unleashing them to do their thing. Rowan was recently the chief technology officer, and one of 4 co-founders at Runn. A fast-growing startup that’s embedded many of these ideas at the core including transparent pay, aysnc remote, worldwide hiring, flexible working hours and let’s not forget a 4 day work week. Chapters: 00:44 Guest Introduction: Rowan Savage 01:48 Philosophy: Building High-Performing Teams 03:13 Consulting Top Talent Before Starting 05:37 People Operations Without HR Experts 08:20 Creating an Employee-Centric Culture 10:04 Redesigning Employment Contracts 13:05 Beyond Compensation: Building Your EVP 16:47 The ESOP Reality in New Zealand 19:42 The Contract as a First Impression 22:15 Hiring Process: Identifying Top Performers 24:05 Recruiting Through Community, Not Job Boards 24:48 Writing Job Ads That Attract Attention 27:09 Long Interview Processes Done Right 30:01 Investing Equal Time as Candidates 31:17 Scaling the Hiring Process 32:56 Attraction Strategy: Making a Great Workplace 34:30 Achieving 100% Employee Net Promoter Score 41:25 Automatic Pay Rises Based on Experience 44:24 Location-Agnostic Global Compensation 46:07 Five-Minute Pay Reviews vs Months-Long Cycles 47:27 Why Performance Comparisons Never Came Up 50:57 Eight-Week Cycles and Performance Tracking 52:34 Sandbagging vs High Performance Culture 54:12 Lessons Learned: Leadership Alignment Challenges 57:46 100% Retention in Engineering Team 59:35 Advice: Focus on People from Day One Connect with Rowan https://www.linkedin.com/in/savagerowan/ [https://www.linkedin.com/in/savagerowan/]  Resources Mentioned Runn - Resource management platform for B2B SaaS companies Buffer - Known for pioneering pay transparency practices Atlassian - Australian software company referenced for compensation benchmarks Culture Amp - People and culture platform GitHub - Platform for software development Canva - Australian design platform Company Mentioned: Runn - Resource management platform for B2B SaaS companies Buffer - Company known for pay transparency practices Culture Amp - People and culture platform Atlassian - Australian software company Canva - Australian design platform GitHub - Software development platform Tools Mentioned: DISC Assessment - Personality and behavior assessment tool used by leadership team More FNDN Episodes: Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM [https://open.spotify.com/show/4GeBIeZOKrFxG1oiiPxmiM] Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484 [https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/fndn-series/id1794263484] __________________________________________________ StartupCompensation, PayTransparency, CompensationStrategy, AutomaticPayRises, LocationAgnosticPay, FourDayWorkWeek, HighPerformanceTeams, ZeroTurnover, EmployeeNetPromoterScore, PayEquity, TalentRetention, StartupCulture, RecruitingStrategy, PerformanceManagement, EmployeeEngagement, CompensationFrameworks, StartupBestPractices, PeopleOperations, RemoteWork, GlobalCompensation