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Are we losing the moon? That's not a hypothetical. China's robotic missions have already landed on the far side of the moon — a place no country had ever reached before — scooping up lunar soil containing deposits of Helium-3, considered by many scientists to be the holy grail of clean fusion energy. Their next mission targets the lunar south pole, where water ice could fuel every future mission into deep space. Whoever controls that resource doesn't just own the moon. They control the future of space exploration itself.My guest is Brendan Byrne, host of NPR's "Are We There Yet?" — the go-to podcast for what's actually happening in space. We get into the real state of the race between the US and China, the role of SpaceX and Blue Origin, and whether Space Force signals that the battle for the moon's resources could turn into something far more serious.But this episode isn't just about geopolitics. We also talk about why Artemis II was a genuine American triumph — including the stunning iPhone footage shot by Commander Reid Wiseman from the window of the spacecraft, and the moment that stopped the crew cold above the lunar surface. And Brendan makes a deeply human case for why we need to be out there — not robots, not AI, but us.
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